Crossface - Chris Benoit Movie Announced

[King_B_Mack]

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So is that how you feel about OJ. As far as we know his brain could be swollen too from playing football and he's not really responsible for his actions. We wont know until he dies and check his brain. Or how about that Carolina Panther receiver who paid someone to shoot his pregnent GF a few years ago. I'm sure he took a few headshots as well and under alot of stress because he was close to being cut by the Panthers and owed alot of money in child support with other women. I'm sure you can get alot of family and friends who would vouch what great guys these 2 guys are.

If Benoit was mentally ill do you think that comes out of nowhere the moment he decides to kill his wife and son. Mental illness just doesn't come to you like a migraine headache. Mental illness has many signs that would slowly be evident over years so anybody who worked with him (and wrestlers are together almost 24\7 up to 10 months a year) would have noticed months or years before the murders that something was off with him. Everyone thought he was completely normal, someone with a high degree of mental illness, enough to commit murder, could not hide it very long. There would have been incidents in the WWE way before the murders happened.

Any of his friends and family who thought he was great man and father (WTF) after what he did may be more mentally ill than Chris ever was. It takes a seriously deranged person to methodically kill your child while he sleeps. If you are that mentally ill you wouldn't be able to function day to day and that's not even debateable. You would have no presence of mind to fake being normal. Steelers centre Mike Webster was homeless and couldn't even function in day to day society for years before he killed himself. That's mental illness.

Dude you don't know what you're talking about so you should just stop man. All mental illnesses aren't the same so trying to shoe horn the symptons of them all into one is completely off base. There are some illnesses out there that could have a person operating fine and perfectly normal before just snapping one day from something as minor as a flat tire pissing them off.

I'm not trying to defend Benoit at all, but you're in here talking out of your *** with things you clearly aren't educated about. All we know is he killed his family and he put bibles near them after doing so. There's a sickness where people who murder loved ones and leave something religious like that feel like they're saving them from something or doing something handed down to them from God. Again not trying to defend the guy because what he did was simply atrocious, but don't sit here and try and say he wasn't mentally ill and people who say he was a family man are somehow wrong because he functioned normally in life.

Since the true facts aren't known, I still think he should be credited for what he did within the confines of his wrestling career. OJ has his stats still. They weren't erased from the books. I can see how the NFL distanced itself from him but they don't pretend he never existed. The WWE is pretending he never existed which in my opinion is wrong.

True, but the NFL doesn't have to worry about the media crucifying them and screwing up they're business for acknowledging OJ like the WWE does if they continue acknowledging Benoit. People continue to blame the WWE everytime a wrestler dies, they're generally chomping at the bit to hurl dirt at Vince and professional wrestling. It's especially not smart to openly acknowledge the guy with Linda in politics.

[Segagendude]

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when the details came out, the media absolutely crushed Vince and the E for doing the tribute show

Probably because the media remembered his "the show must go on" mindset after Owen Hart's death.

Vince is not a well- liked man.

[MNgoph]

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Can't really blame the WWE. Let's face facts, Benoit MURDERED his family. Murder one, murder two...still a murderer. He killed is CHILD and WIFE. Simple as that.

Was he a great entertainer? Yes. But he became a murderer and the WWE had to address this. The last thing the WWE wanted to do was praise him. That would have been frowned upon. I'm not trying to sound harsh, but let's face reality in this situation from a WWE view.

And Pro Wrestling already has a bad name due to all the steroid use, etc. Not sure the movie could really "hurt" it anymore then it's already hurt itself. I would like to see them approach it as a great sport, but high stress / demands involved. I feel like I'm always trying to defend wrestling to others...these wrestlers, in my opinion, are pure athletes. But you can't hide the bad things that have happened or been done by wrestlers.

Just checked the Carolina Panthers website and Rae Carruth is still on their team roster history page. I would think Roger would get rid of him and like vince did with benoit.

[Santino]

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All this talk about how the WWE doesn't acknowledge Benoit's existence is completely off-base seeing how he's still listed in multiple title histories.

http://www.wwe.com/inside/titlehistory/worldheavyweight

Thinking the WWE is going to glorify or showcase a child murderer by showing his matches on their programming or DVD's is completely absurd.

[Ejfalcon9]

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............He killed his wife and child.

Thought about what I wrote and poor choice of words. What I meant was I hope Benoit isnt portrayed as a monster in that it was pre-meditated murder when it is now known that it was a freak occurrence.

[Chrisksaint]

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Since the true facts aren't known, I still think he should be credited for what he did within the confines of his wrestling career. OJ has his stats still. They weren't erased from the books. I can see how the NFL distanced itself from him but they don't pretend he never existed. The WWE is pretending he never existed which in my opinion is wrong.

How I feel, especially when in a way the WWE/Wrestling life is what I expect led Benoit to that point in his life

Will always be one of my favorite wrestlers and i'll never forget him unlike the WWE, it was a tragedy what happened and I truly feel sorry for his family.

[Dr.J]

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Benoit was a monster who murder a innocent child and woman hopefully the film portrays him as such.

You guys can't blame the wwe for blacklisting him after all they made benoit they determine when he would win and how he would win you can't compare the stat removing to oj and that other monster.They're the ones who put benoit on tv and made him who he was.

[Ejfalcon9]

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Well I was listening to Wrestling News Live last night after RAW and the guys brought up the topic of the Benoit movie. I hadn't read the "Ring of Hell" book ,but basically from what I heard the book was wrote by someone that had no idea what they were talking about and is full of opinions/lies rather than fact. Basically the general consensus was this movie isn't going to be a story of a great life and career ended with tragedy ,but a 2 hour long black eye on professional wrestling.

[Steven547]

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Well I was listening to Wrestling News Live last night after RAW and the guys brought up the topic of the Benoit movie. I hadn't read the "Ring of Hell" book ,but basically from what I heard the book was wrote by someone that had no idea what they were talking about and is full of opinions/lies rather than fact. Basically the general consensus was this movie isn't going to be a story of a great life and career ended with tragedy ,but a 2 hour long black eye on professional wrestling.

And that is what the WWE does not need.

[LivingLegend]

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I still have my doubt Benoit actually committed the murders, something just seems off about the whole thing.

As far as the movie goes it should be something that brings light on Benoits career rather than try to dampen him and the wrestling industry as a whole.

[Seymour Scagnetti]

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I still have my doubt Benoit actually committed the murders, something just seems off about the whole thing.

Yeah maybe it was a Benoit screw job created by Vince in a storyline gone bad. Can't believe Vince would take that chance after his role in 9\11. Not everything is a conspiracy. This is taking Benoit fanboyism a little too far. Actually way too far.

[LivingLegend]

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Yeah maybe it was a Benoit screw job created by Vince in a storyline gone bad. Can't believe Vince would take that chance after his role in 9\11. Not everything is a conspiracy. This is taking Benoit fanboyism a little too far. Actually way too far.

First of all, the personal attack was very uneccesary, as was your job at 9/11 very distasteful.....

Second of all I never said I was a Benoit fanboy, or even a fan of his. I just know there is always a possibility something else happened. Especially when all we have to go by is the say so of the police. No physical evidence was ever presented to the public.

I guess if someone comes on the news and says you killed someone we should just believe it?

[KC Fire]

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First of all, the personal attack was very uneccesary, as was your job at 9/11 very distasteful.....

Second of all I never said I was a Benoit fanboy, or even a fan of his. I just know there is always a possibility something else happened. Especially when all we have to go by is the say so of the police. No physical evidence was ever presented to the public.

It doesn't have to be presented to the public.

I guess if someone comes on the news and says you killed someone we should just believe it?

If the police come on the news and say that he killed his family and then himself I'm going to believe it.

[Seymour Scagnetti]

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First of all, the personal attack was very uneccesary, as was your job at 9/11 very distasteful.....

Second of all I never said I was a Benoit fanboy, or even a fan of his. I just know there is always a possibility something else happened. Especially when all we have to go by is the say so of the police. No physical evidence was ever presented to the public.

I guess if someone comes on the news and says you killed someone we should just believe it?

It wasn't a personal attack, it was just showcasing my sense of bewilderment on a very silly post. Why would the police need to lie and cover up this murder and frame Benoit. Do you think every cop wants to frame semi-famous people. That would mean there was a madman out there who systematically killed 3 people in thier home and the entire police dep't chose to give him a mulligan so they could pin it on Benoit who they don't even know and half of them probably never heard of. Why? To make Vince look like a bad employer? A defenseless mother and small child were murdered by an unstable man twice thier size and you make light that he could be innocent? And you thought my 9\11 comment was in bad taste?

[TheShizNo1]

So is there no way to separate the wrestler from the man?