Raw 01/02/12 - What falls down stairs alone or in pairs? Every knows it's Randy!

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Re: Raw 01/02/12 - What falls down stairs alone or in pairs? Every knows it's Randy!

Read and heard the same things. But, if that's the reason (and it does make sense), why would he not come out in the middle of the Punk match? Why would they start a new program with Punk/Ziggler?

I question those actions, and I know some answers people will say (to throw people off, swerve, etc), but for continuality sakes, it makes no sense. Unless the Ziggler/Punk feud ends at the Rumble, I don't even know who Jericho feuds with.

Ziggler/Punk will be over at the Rumble as...

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he does not appear to be booked in the Raw EC match at this time.

But is it common these days for the title match loser to participate in the Rumble? If not, I don't like Ziggler's chances there.

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Which makes sense given I think Jericho is probably going to win it.

And maybe Jericho is going to let Punk come to him instead of the other way around?

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As much as I think Punk/Jericho for the belt would produce as much as anything else, they can both be above it.

Part of me wants to see Ziggler get a run with it to see how he does. It might be a bit early but Jericho honestly has nothing to gain over from the belt.

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Re: Raw 01/02/12 - What falls down stairs alone or in pairs? Every knows it's Randy!

Yea, I kinda wish Jericho was saving us from Super Cena, but I think Kane has that m.o. on lockdown.

And I hope they don't put the belt on Ziggler any time soon because it will be just like last time. He'll have the belt for a very very short period of time and then they'll hand it back to Punk, or worse, Cena so he can put the title on the line against the Rock like he claimed a year ago.

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Thought the Jericho return was terrible.

Jericho is in my top 3 wrestlers of all time, but I admit I was hoping it was someone else last night mainly because Jericho was too obvious.

The build up, didn't match what came out though. I don't care that he didn't speak, that at least made sense, he hammed it up like a moron and then left trolling the audience. My issue is how the whole set up began and was executed.

The videos, creepy as hell for weeks (which for some reason Cole/Lawler never acknowledged once), then it finally airs in the arena (Cole/Lawler still seemed oblivous to the actual video, just the return). The ground shaking? Please.

So then it's Jericho (worst secret ever) and he's there with a jacket that lights up and comes out all happy go lucky. Smiling ear to ear like an idiot.

No matter how you want to play that, none of that matched those videos. None of that explained "she". "She said it was time". So out comes supper happy Jericho? Again, I get that point, but the videos ended up being pointless. They just didn't match. He needed to come out and in the Punk match. But now you've set in motion a Punk/Ziggler feud. Cena's in 2 feud's and Miz is in a feud, so who is Jericho going to feud with? Again, who is "she"??

I know give it time, and things will be explained. But I'm sorry, WWE doesn't have a good history of giving things time. Nexus, CM Punk's leaving angle, etc..these are 2 big things in the last 2 years that everyone said give it time and both fell totally flat.

I'm almost wondering if WWE had a different idea for Jericho's return than he did. And they had already started the videos, so had to conclude them.

None of it made sense...and I don't need to "understand" to realize it came off poorly as a whole.

I'm glad he's back, and I'm sure he'll make a few feuds work like magic, and have some good things to say and play the heel role perfectly on Raw for awhile. But the buildup just didn't match it.

You summed it up better than I ever could.

As someone who loves cryptic stuff like that, went back and rewatched all the videos in preperation of Raw, I just expected something a little different. I think we all have been watching wrestling for a while and understand what went down last night and get it....theres no deep rooted meaning that went over my head.

Hey, but like I said before....well see what happens.

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Re: Raw 01/02/12 - What falls down stairs alone or in pairs? Every knows it's Randy!

Jericho mocked lengthy past returns and the confusing promo videos that accompanied them. Jericho mocked the live audience and the audience at home by seeing how long he could milk it. Most importantly, Jericho mocked himself with flashbacks of his babyface run in WCW, a lite-brite jacket, and a face full of botox. We've been Jerichorolled and it was glorious.

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LOL @ Jerichorolled...

I like it...

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Everyone is reading way too much into this "she" thing. Has it even crossed your mind that "she" is just the creepy girl in the video? Granted, it wasn't explained really well what her role is, but it certainly doesn't mean there's an actual person coming back with Jericho.

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Well I have no idea what the 'she' is, but I'm guessing that it isn't literally a she and Stephanie isn't returning anytime soon. I did see some good ideas on Youtube (I know, it's Youtube) about what the she could be a metaphor for.

"The girl = CM Punk or even the majority of the wwe superstars today. The boy in the videos shown over the weeks has been writing in a book. The girl was constantly peeking and in his ear, when he left the girl picks up the book and becomes frustrated that she cannot do it. The ball represents the ball literally being dropped when jericho left and in one of the videos the girl picks it up and smiles. There is more to it im sure but there is more within the videos than the words."

"I think the girl is CM Punk in a way. Notice in the promos she's looking at the book the boy is writing in? And knocks it off his desk? I think that's symbolic for some sort of degree of plagiarism. As in, almost like the girl is copying from it making the boy be "rebirthed" and to "claim what is his". That's my theory, anyway. Think of it like this: Punk says he's the best in the world. It's even on his T-shirt. But Jericho has said he's the best in the world years before."

That may not be right on, but it's certainly makes more sense than thinking Stephanie (who, let's be honest, people never really cared about one way or another when she was around) would be the she.

I haven't read that. IF it isn't just a giant troll-fest (which I'm thinking it is) and the videos actually have meaning, I don't think it's that deep. I think "she" is the WWE championship. Whispering in his ear, taunting him, beckoning him to claim what his rightfully his. It holds the key to his rebirth. And it is being held by CM Punk. The end of the (best in the) world comes when Jericho claims what is rightfully his and takes over the WWE Universe.

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I think Jeri-trolled sounds better. Goes along with some of the stuff he used (Jeri-tron, Jeri-Show).

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So now Laringtitus is channeling his inner Vinnie Mac by screwing Punk.......and now he'll be the special guest ref at the PPV....
seen this movie before:

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He gets knocked out, either intentionally or unintentionally, a real ref comes in, and Punk retains.....

Or

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Dolph wins, then quickly dumps Vickie.....lol.....

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Re: Raw 01/02/12 - What falls down stairs alone or in pairs? Every knows it's Randy!

I think i would have preferred it if he had done what he had done up until the point where he was pointing to each side of the crowd for reaction, if he had just dropped the mic symbolising the pipe bomb, stood for a few seconds looking disgusted with the crowd and walked out the arena.

Things are a bit clearer today whereas last night i was thinking what the?

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Re: Raw 01/02/12 - What falls down stairs alone or in pairs? Every knows it's Randy!

Someone on Reddit said that there was a hint at a new WWE title last night. What was it? I completely missed that.

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Ziggler ran off with Punks belt after Punk was counted out.

My phone..seriously

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Re: Raw 01/02/12 - What falls down stairs alone or in pairs? Every knows it's Randy!

Ziggler ran off with Punks belt after Punk was counted out.

My phone..seriously

He did that last week, too. Didn't he?

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Re: Raw 01/02/12 - What falls down stairs alone or in pairs? Every knows it's Randy!

Didn't Ziggler run around with the title after the gauntlet match and never "gave" it back to Punk? Short term memory in this thread.

With the exception of soltrain.