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I wonder if the NXT's budget is the same as an indie fed? I wonder if it gets to travel more than an indie fed around the country, since its money comes from WWE?

It's obviously not an indie promotion, as it is a part of WWE. It's their counter to the indies, it's their indie and developmental promotion. I'm beginning to think you've never seen NXT before.

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Being over in NXT with the IWC and smarks is completely different. Do you really expect someone like Zayn to be WWE champion?

Every single one of them can get over with the WWE Universe. Crazy to think otherwise.

Why can't Zayn be WWE champion? He has charisma, he's over with the WWE Universe. You put him in the right program and play up the underdog angle, why can't he? Daniel Bryan was champion. CM Punk was champion.

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It's obviously not an indie promotion, as it is a part of WWE. It's their counter to the indies, it's their indie and developmental promotion. I'm beginning to think you've never seen NXT before.

Of course i have. Thats insulting. The crowd are different, the production is different. It appeals to a different category of fans. If you havent seen how WWE neuters the NXT talent when they hit the main roster, then there is no hope for you to see what i am talking about. Having a brand split isnt going to fix these types of problems. The problems have to fix themselves first.

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Being over in NXT with the IWC and smarks is completely different. Do you really expect someone like Zayn to be WWE champion?

Yea I could see Zayn as a WWE Champion. His first match on the main roster was against Cena...and look at the recent guy to do that. And his trajectory right now.


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Yea I could see Zayn as a WWE Champion. His first match on the main roster was against Cena...and look at the recent guy to do that. And his trajectory right now.


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What is his trajectory? I find him in purgatory at this point, with at least 60-70% of the roster.

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Of course i have. Thats insulting. The crowd are different, the production is different. It appeals to a different category of fans. If you havent seen how WWE neuters the NXT talent when they hit the main roster, then there is no hope for you to see what i am talking about. Having a brand split isnt going to fix these types of problems. The problems have to fix themselves first.

How has Kevin Owens been neutered??? Please enlighten me. How about the Shield? How were they neutered? How was Daniel Bryan neutered?


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Being over in NXT with the IWC and smarks is completely different. Do you really expect someone like Zayn to be WWE champion?

Do you really expect someone like Daniel Bryan to be world champion?

Do you really expect someone like Shawn Michaels to be world champion?

Do you really expect someone like Bret Hart to be world champion?

Also, stop saying "IWC" and "smarks" like you're not sitting here discussing wrestling on the internet. It's a bad look.

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Do you really expect someone like Daniel Bryan to be world champion?

Do you really expect someone like Shawn Michaels to be world champion?

Do you really expect someone like Bret Hart to be world champion?

Also, stop saying "IWC" and "smarks" like you're not sitting here discussing wrestling on the internet. It's a bad look.

Obviously he didn't about Bryan as he said WWE has neutered NXT talent after they have been called up.



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Of course i have. Thats insulting. The crowd are different, the production is different. It appeals to a different category of fans. If you havent seen how WWE neuters the NXT talent when they hit the main roster, then there is no hope for you to see what i am talking about. Having a brand split isnt going to fix these types of problems. The problems have to fix themselves first.

I don't think you've seen NXT. But I digress. They neuter talent? No, guys who have charisma get over nonetheless. Neville doesn't have the greatest charisma. Not surprised he's floundered. But they've done him no favors either. Put him in a tag team and he'd succeed.

Kalisto, great worker, got over. And look at it now, he's the US champion.

Kevin Owens, the best heel in the company. Oh and look at that, two time, and current IC champion.

Seth Rollins, was on top of the world before an unfortunate injury.

Big E, a part of the best act in the company right now.

Sasha, Charlotte, Becky. All from NXT. All fighting for a title match at Mania.

Yeah, NXT call ups get neutered. It's pretty much 1 for 1 on NXT guys not being used correctly or being booked as a big time player.

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Do you really expect someone like Daniel Bryan to be world champion?

Do you really expect someone like Shawn Michaels to be world champion?

Do you really expect someone like Bret Hart to be world champion?

Also, stop saying "IWC" and "smarks" like you're not sitting here discussing wrestling on the internet. It's a bad look.

I am part of the IWC and I am a smark. I just call it like I see it. Actually, I did expect Hart and Michaels to be World Champion. Bryan, not so much until the fans revolted against Batista. His first title reign I thought was a waste.

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I don't think you've seen NXT. But I digress. They neuter talent? No, guys who have charisma get over nonetheless. Neville doesn't have the greatest charisma. Not surprised he's floundered. But they've done him no favors either. Put him in a tag team and he'd succeed.

Kalisto, great worker, got over. And look at it now, he's the US champion.

Kevin Owens, the best heel in the company. Oh and look at that, two time, and current IC champion.

Seth Rollins, was on top of the world before an unfortunate injury.

Big E, a part of the best act in the company right now.

Sasha, Charlotte, Becky. All from NXT. All fighting for a title match at Mania.

Yeah, NXT call ups get neutered. It's pretty much 1 for 1 on NXT guys not being used correctly or being booked as a big time player.

Stuck in the midcard, Stuck in the midcard, Ill give you that one, stuck in the midcard, lol Divas. Everyone complains about Charlotte, Becky cant cut a promo to save her life. Sasha, Ill give you.

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So y'all are arguing about guys not having more than ringwork as why they aren't included in this "surplus" of talent and yet you're offering up Benoit, RVD, the Hardyz, Lesnar and Scott Steiner as your main pieces of the "talent surplus" from the original split? Yeah, we can stop having this discussion now.

This is some of the worst cherry picking I've seen on OS. Bravo. Not sure how you concluded these were the "main pieces offered" when these guys weren't even on the top of the list posted earlier.

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Stuck in the midcard, Stuck in the midcard, Ill give you that one, stuck in the midcard, lol Divas. Everyone complains about Charlotte, Becky cant cut a promo to save her life. Sasha, Ill give you.

People complain about Charlotte because her is ****. That's why I rarely refer to her by her name. She is Ric Flair 2.0 people don't want to see that. Give her a different gimmick and manager, she will do fine.

Also let's not forget Ambrose and Reigns. Ambrose was a US champ, IC champ, part of the World Title picture and is still is. Probably the most over guy on the roster. Reigns has won a RR, is a 2-3 time WWEWHC, is going to headline his 2nd straight WM. And I don't give a **** if people hate him, he is the complete opposite of neutered.

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Stuck in the midcard, Stuck in the midcard, Ill give you that one, stuck in the midcard, lol Divas. Everyone complains about Charlotte, Becky cant cut a promo to save her life. Sasha, Ill give you.

Trying to bury talent isn't helping your side. Stuck in the mid card or not, the mid card champions are both recent NXT products.

And women's wrestling when given time is awesome. Yeah Charlotte sucks because he gimmick is being Ric's daughter, but she did good stuff in NXT and isn't a bad worker. Becky is awesome, and over. And Sasha is the GOAT. Once again, I don't think you've ever seen NXT.