WWE Off-Topic

[UFCMPunk]

Oooooh Chavo intensifies. Chavo Guerrero has confirmed he is back in the WWE in official capacity. He was shown on TV during Worlds Collide, so have to think he might end up being a coach at the PC with appearances here and there.

https://wrestlingnews.co/wwe-news/former-wwe-star-said-back-company-after-many-years-away/

[Majingir]

Oooooh Chavo intensifies. Chavo Guerrero has confirmed he is back in the WWE in official capacity. He was shown on TV during Worlds Collide, so have to think he might end up being a coach at the PC with appearances here and there.

https://wrestlingnews.co/wwe-news/fo...ny-years-away/

He's gotta be in some sort of segment with his "cousin" Dom.

[UFCMPunk]

Shayna Baszler is reportedly back in WWE... as a Producer. She helped produce the match between Kelani Jordan & Lainey Reid this past Tuesday on NXT. Good for her to be back with the company even in a producer role.

https://www.si.com/fannation/wrestling/wwe/new-report-indicates-shayna-baszler-has-returned-to-wwe-in-new-role

[Majingir]

Surely there's some legal grounds to complain to this....

Evolution hasn't done as well in ticket sales as SNME (no surprise, when prices are so high and you run back to back shows in the same venue, you almost force fans to choose which one they want to attend) so WWE sent out an email to people in certain sections saying that they've been upgraded to better seats.

A day or two later they sent back out an email saying the upgrade is no longer necessary (I imagine they probably sold more tickets so changed their mind on upgrading people).

So how legal is that? Maybe it the ticket wasn't transfered to the person then it might technically be allowed, but if you already upgraded, surely you can't take it away after?

[TheMatrix31]

Good for Shayna. That match was pretty solid.

That's crazy re: sales.

We were looking at driving to Nashville for Smackdown but that's not feasible given the timeline/length of drive and the fact that I figure Smackdown won't be anything special ahead of this Atlanta Weekend and I doubt anything of relevance happens.

Then we were considering Atlanta for one of the three events but I don't think it's gonna happen either. NXT pricing was bonkers and the main event is eh, saw some SNME that were reasonable and Evolution was cheaper in comparison. But as you said you're forcing people to pick one pretty much. The talent is gonna be split up. Looking at the seating chart, it seemed evident that Evolution has some seats blocked off because of what we figured to be poor sales. I have no idea about specifics or that that was actually the case and this was the first I read about it. Funny thing is Evolution is pretty intriguing. Becky/Lyra/Bayley would be main eventing the entire weekend if it was up to me. Ethan Page/Ricky Saints has been spectacular too.

Going to AEW would totally more reasonable price-wise and obviously way easier but I tuned into Dynamite and it wasn't super compelling. Does everyone have a belt on that show? Wtf?


I hate the split up shows. And this on the heels of the stupid *** Saudi show. This is where it hurts the actual, real domestic product. They could have not had that show 2 ****ing weeks ago, built from MITB and then used an Atlanta weekend like this for a big show combining all talents from all brands if you so wish to build to Summerslam. But now everything feels segmented and way less special. Now you have 3 events that don't really stand out on their own. And then you have Summerslam unnaturally early because you're going on another ****ing European tour again.

Absolutely hate this split stuff, making fans choose, etc. Just really dumb. They could be taking this hot streak and absolutely kill it even more and do it way more sensibly.

I'll just watch on TV at the comfort of home and be able to watch everything. Too bad. Would be fun to do a spontaneous summer thing like that.

[UFCMPunk]

Yeah the combo stuff only works with shows like Wrestlemania & Summerslam where it's a 2 night event. Telling people to do a combo for anything else is too much. Look at Saturday Night's Main Event where the big draw is Goldberg's retirement match. There's no Cody, no Cena, no Roman, no Jey, none of your top draws are on the show. So why even go?

Then Evolution was just thrown together with no real build outside of Becky/Lyra/Bayley, that's it. Iyo and Tiffany picked their own opponents, Jade vs Naomi again but neither can lose, specifically Jade who just won Queen of The Ring. I debated driving from Charlotte to Atlanta for these shows but honestly if you ask me, I'd rather attend All In than any of the WWE shows this weekend.

[TheMatrix31]

Yeah the combo stuff only works with shows like Wrestlemania & Summerslam where it's a 2 night event. Telling people to do a combo for anything else is too much. Look at Saturday Night's Main Event where the big draw is Goldberg's retirement match. There's no Cody, no Cena, no Roman, no Jey, none of your top draws are on the show. So why even go?

Then Evolution was just thrown together with no real build outside of Becky/Lyra/Bayley, that's it. Iyo and Tiffany picked their own opponents, Jade vs Naomi again but neither can lose, specifically Jade who just won Queen of The Ring. I debated driving from Charlotte to Atlanta for these shows but honestly if you ask me, I'd rather attend All In than any of the WWE shows this weekend.

Yup. Pretty lame. Like yeah in person to "see Goldberg last match" is cool, regardless of my feelings on the matter. And I love Gunther and Seth, LA, Drew and Orton.. But driving that long for something that isn't a Big 4, I don't think it's wise.

[Majingir]

Yeah the combo stuff only works with shows like Wrestlemania & Summerslam where it's a 2 night event. Telling people to do a combo for anything else is too much. Look at Saturday Night's Main Event where the big draw is Goldberg's retirement match. There's no Cody, no Cena, no Roman, no Jey, none of your top draws are on the show. So why even go?

Then Evolution was just thrown together with no real build outside of Becky/Lyra/Bayley, that's it. Iyo and Tiffany picked their own opponents, Jade vs Naomi again but neither can lose, specifically Jade who just won Queen of The Ring. I debated driving from Charlotte to Atlanta for these shows but honestly if you ask me, I'd rather attend All In than any of the WWE shows this weekend.

The combos they've done here weren't the greatest either. They literally only did the whole Rock part of the Cena heel turn bit because ticket sales were doing poor here because they tried making it a 2 night combo and holding EC in a baseball stadium doesn't lead to many good views either, combined with the high prices.


And combos aren't worth it when it's cheaper or the same price to buy individually. What's the point of buying a combo on day 1 when 1 day before the shows you can individually get tickets to both for less?

There's no incentive other than knowing ahead of time you're going to both in the same seat.

[UFCMPunk]

Yup. Pretty lame. Like yeah in person to "see Goldberg last match" is cool, regardless of my feelings on the matter. And I love Gunther and Seth, LA, Drew and Orton.. But driving that long for something that isn't a Big 4, I don't think it's wise.

I drove an hour to see Sting's retirement and his last match ever in Greensboro. I can say, seeing Sting's last match is a lot more memorable for fans than say Goldberg's last match.

[UFCMPunk]

And combos aren't worth it when it's cheaper or the same price to buy individually. What's the point of buying a combo on day 1 when 1 day before the shows you can individually get tickets to both for less?

There's no incentive other than knowing ahead of time you're going to both in the same seat.

I've heard so many people say this about Wrestlemania this year, so many people including me bought at the presale for Mania and the RAW/SD/NXT combo tickets. I've seen so many say they will wait until later to buy their tickets next year.

Ticket prices went down along with some hotel prices, and now it's the second consecutive year in Vegas? Last year sold on the big angle of Cena turning heel, aligning with The Rock, it being Cena's final Wrestlemania, him chasing the record, etc. That's all gone, it's not going to do as well as TKO/WWE thinks going back a second straight year. I think there will be some regret about not staying in New Orleans.

[Majingir]

I've heard so many people say this about Wrestlemania this year, so many people including me bought at the presale for Mania and the RAW/SD/NXT combo tickets. I've seen so many say they will wait until later to buy their tickets next year.

Ticket prices went down along with some hotel prices, and now it's the second consecutive year in Vegas? Last year sold on the big angle of Cena turning heel, aligning with The Rock, it being Cena's final Wrestlemania, him chasing the record, etc. That's all gone, it's not going to do as well as TKO/WWE thinks going back a second straight year. I think there will be some regret about not staying in New Orleans.

The whole "wait until later to buy" thing isn't new, but it definitely seems to be increasing in popularity to the point I could see the reverse being forced to happen eventually where if enough people start waiting until late to buy, surely there'll be incentive to buy ahead?

Maybe if you buy during presale and the face value from the ticket company goes down in your section, you can "price match" the lower price?

But also, how can ticketmaster dominate a market this much? We need another ticket company stepping up.

[SmashMan]

I wasn’t hyped for Evolution going into it but it was a good show overall. The main event was incredible.

[TheMatrix31]

Great PPV. Maybe the best women's match of all time with that Rhea/Io.....and then have that finish. I feel robbed.

But props for surprises I guess.

[Fiddy]

Fantastic PLE from start to finish.

Also, SNME, if Raw and Smackdown ha that type of pace to their shows they would be much better IMO.

[UFCMPunk]

Poor Undertaker... Charlotte & Michelle ganged up on him. I love the look Undertaker gives Michelle like... "Back me up here please!" and then him saying he has to go back to work was hilarious.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/asX-nouQ-E4