WWE RAW & Smackdown Thread

[TheMatrix31]

Travis Scott "done with wwe" huh so they bring him and Rock in to ruin a Wrestlemania main event and a long title reign of their biggest regular performer for...literally actually nothing.

Happy I didn't go to Smaxkdown. Not much interesting outside of the Solo/Fatu stuff and steel cage announcement. Gargano/Ciampa accidental hit again.


Bret Hart's comments about every match being a chop fest flopfest suicida fest are totally accurate. Every match is the same. Spot to spot. How many times do we need to see the flip into a crowd of wrestlers? How many times do we need to see a table break? Isn't that special ****? Why does every match devolve into this routine? Doesn't anyone know how to put a real wrestling match on? And it doesn't have to be technical masterpieces. Just get rid of those reliable spots and make them special. They are not holy **** moments if they literally happen every week or multiple times a match.

[reyes the roof]

Glad to see Reigns back on Monday but that would have been the perfect opportunity to go back to the original version of his theme and pretend the new version never existed

[UFCMPunk]

Iyo vs Stephanie tonight! Stephanie told Iyo that if she wins at Summerslam that they will finally be able to know who would have won their match back in April. Iyo said, let's find out tonight so looks like we are getting Iyo vs Stephanie again!

Also...... the TNA World Champion(yes, technically he's a WWE contracted star) is on WWE Raw... or at least during the commercial break. You would think this would definitely be aired on TV and not on a commercial break.

[UFCMPunk]

I really love how Becky has embraced the 'Becky Hogan' meme by wearing red and yellow lol.

[UFCMPunk]

Another banger of a match between Iyo & Stephanie once again gets interuppted lol. Like, can we not have a clean winner? Is Triple H afraid of having either of them lose. Triple H's booking of baby faces like Sami where they have to be hurt and be presented as the underdog, like come on Hunter. Do something different.

[TheMatrix31]

Another banger of a match between Iyo & Stephanie once again gets interuppted lol. Like, can we not have a clean winner? Is Triple H afraid of having either of them lose. Triple H's booking of baby faces like Sami where they have to be hurt and be presented as the underdog, like come on Hunter. Do something different.

Yeah. I can't believe they gave that match away. It was excellent. At least the interruption led to us seeing Chelsea. My lord above.

They have to get away from some of the "every week" things. Why should Stephanie always do the Devils Kiss thing, for example? Keep it special.

Happy Kross won.

Lots of good stuff on the show today. Good story advancement.

[Majingir]

It's old enough realizing Cena and Orton are nearing 50, but Roman just turned 40!?

[Majingir]

For all the talk and the day+ since, it still doesn't sink in that Hulk Hogan/Hulkamania/Hollywood Hogan is gone forever. Even listening to Real American feels weird.

And Jelly Roll with a black hole slam...we know who he's been training with at the PC.

Roxanne with a new theme. Usually these new themes get hated on, but her old theme was really just a remix of her originally "happy to be here" theme. Though her new theme doesn't feel like it fits her as much. It would've felt better with darker lighting in the arena.

Kiana finally back, and she's the mouthpiece for Giulia. Not a pairing you'd expect, but Giulia does need a manager before she just winds up Nakamura 2.0 at best

TLC at Summerslam! 25 years after the original TLC!

[TheMatrix31]

Good opening segment for Hogan. Cody prefacing his statement was pathetic. They probably couldn't dedicate more time to having a Hogan show because they couldn't sacrifice one show given such a short time to Summerslam. Also gotta love the crowd cheering him. You ****s were booing him constantly and incessantly and now you're cheering. At the NXT show I went to on Tuesday three ****ing days ago they had video clips to pass the time during commercial breaks and one of them had Hogan repeatedly appearing and each ****ing time the NXT crowd booed the the ever living **** out of him. Wrestling fans are ****ing losers.

Having a manager for Giulia is a good move. More managers. More story. I'm sick of these shows going 5 percent in on story. How many 5 on 1 beatdowns do we need? How does that advance story? How many times do we need brawls separated by authorities?

They ran through the Summerslam card. So many matches don't have the requisite juice for one of your "Big 4" PPVs. That's what happens when you don't start building until the 3 week window between your last big weekend and your next big weekend. But hey, gotta do Summerslam early now so you get two nights and then go do international shows, right.

Rox slower theme is not as good as her previous. Whatever, they keep doing this ****.

Whatever show I guess.

[SmashMan]

Good opening segment for Hogan. Cody prefacing his statement was pathetic. They probably couldn't dedicate more time to having a Hogan show because they couldn't sacrifice one show given such a short time to Summerslam. Also gotta love the crowd cheering him. You ****s were booing him constantly and incessantly and now you're cheering. At the NXT show I went to on Tuesday three ****ing days ago they had video clips to pass the time during commercial breaks and one of them had Hogan repeatedly appearing and each ****ing time the NXT crowd booed the the ever living **** out of him. Wrestling fans are ****ing losers.

Must be mindblowing to find out people can not be fans of his racism, extraordinarily self-congratulatory stories, and showing up to TV every so often to recite his 40-year old catchphrases like a wind-up toy and leave and yet still not want the guy to die.

[TheMatrix31]

Must be mindblowing to find out people can not be fans of his racism, extraordinarily self-congratulatory stories, and showing up to TV every so often to recite his 40-year old catchphrases like a wind-up toy and leave and yet still not want the guy to die.

It'd be a shock to me, considering all indicators.

[Majingir]

If anything, I'm surprised wwe openly admitted (Cody and Tess) that its "complicated".

Obviously you want to celebrate Hulk Hogan, Hulkamania, NWO ,red and yellow and all that, but then it's "conflicting" because of his views/beliefs off screen.

You want to celebrate the guy most grew up watching on tv, but you don't want to celebrate "Terry".

But that's no different than so many celebs. You want to celebrate the person you see on tv, the athlete on your fave team, or the musician whose songs you love, but you don't want to celebrate/pay respects to who they are in real life.

[UFCMPunk]

If anything, I'm surprised wwe openly admitted (Cody and Tess) that its "complicated".

Obviously you want to celebrate Hulk Hogan, Hulkamania, NWO ,red and yellow and all that, but then it's "conflicting" because of his views/beliefs off screen.

You want to celebrate the guy most grew up watching on tv, but you don't want to celebrate "Terry".

But that's no different than so many celebs. You want to celebrate the person you see on tv, the athlete on your fave team, or the musician whose songs you love, but you don't want to celebrate/pay respects to who they are in real life.

This is how I'm choosing to go about it. I want to celebrate and honor the character of Hulk Hogan whom nobody would be here right now on a forum talking about wrestling if it wasn't for him. At the same time, I condone the actions of Terry Bollea. I truly wonder what kind of conversation we would be having if that tape didn't get released, or if he just chose better friends than Bubba The Love Sponge. He made his return just a year prior in 2014 from his time in TNA. His last cool moment he ever did in a wrestling ring was at Mania 31 with the NWO coming out to battle DX, bringing the Monday Night Wars to life in the middle of Triple H vs Sting.

[Majingir]

This is how I'm choosing to go about it. I want to celebrate and honor the character of Hulk Hogan whom nobody would be here right now on a forum talking about wrestling if it wasn't for him. At the same time, I condone the actions of Terry Bollea. I truly wonder what kind of conversation we would be having if that tape didn't get released, or if he just chose better friends than Bubba The Love Sponge. He made his return just a year prior in 2014 from his time in TNA. His last cool moment he ever did in a wrestling ring was at Mania 31 with the NWO coming out to battle DX, bringing the Monday Night Wars to life in the middle of Triple H vs Sting.

The more I think about it...how many moments has Hogan has in WWE since everything came out?

2014 was his last year doing anything in WWE outside of the NWO induction and then the SNME stuff wasn't it?

[SmashMan]

The more I think about it...how many moments has Hogan has in WWE since everything came out?

2014 was his last year doing anything in WWE outside of the NWO induction and then the SNME stuff wasn't it?

Regularly? 2014, yeah. He popped up a handful of times after, usually for those “legends night” Raws Vince liked doing. Hosted a WM with Titus O’Neil. I have a vague memory of a Team Hogan vs Team Flair for one of the Saudi shows?

Edit: My brother mentioned this segment to me - I had no recollection of it at all.