WWE 2k15 Attributes Thread

[Dione2014]

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I reset all of the attributes that I was working on and went and tested all of the damage stats. What i realize now is that you have to lower all damage attributes quite a bit in order to get the long PPV type matches. I tested Daniel Bryan and John Cena by lowering Arm power, leg power, grapple offense, and running offense all by 35 points. I actually got a 20+ minute match out of it between the two wrestlers. I am trying to see if there is any way to adjust so top guys can kick out of finishers every so often. I'm starting to think that the kick out issue can't be fixed with attributes.

[Steven547]

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As a note, I did this exact same match CPU vs CPU a couple of days ago using your stats (I actually boosted Lesnar up a bit more form where you had him rated as I want him virtually unbeatable), Legend difficulty, and the "Average" column sliders and had this exact same issue. Dallas actually whipped Lesnar pretty good for a while which is completely unacceptable. Haha. Lesnar did end up winning, but the match went at least 12 minutes with entirely too much offense from Dallas. It's also worth noting, maybe, that I was using Cavemangamer's strength attributes rather than the ones in your spreadsheet as I want the weight detection as he has it set. Other than that, your spreadsheet is dead on for me for the most part.

I'm not sure how to correct it, and I almost think it isn't worth it to tinker too much with it because on the other hand:

Pairing Lesnar vs. Batista, Batista vs Wyatt, and Lesnar vs. Cena CPU vs CPU yielded some GREAT results using your ratings and the average slider column on Legend difficulty. Some pretty true to life, back and forth, 15-20 minute matches for all of those.

I did Lesnar vs Cena 3 times and Lesnar won all three; the one that Cena definitely would have won after a third AA was stolen when Heyman distracted the ref and Lesnar came back to hit his second F-5 of the match to win. It was awesome to watch. I removed Heyman for the two rematches and they both went in Lesnar's favor after some realistic back and forth, including Cena doing his comeback sequence after Lesnar nailed him with his first F-5 of the match.

Same goes for Lesnar vs Batista; they beat the hell out of each other until Lesnar hit Batista with an F-5 to win. Same deal with Batista vs Wyatt, back and forth until Batista finally hit a second Batista Bomb and he, exhausted, crawled over to Wyatt for the win. I thought Wyatt had that one right before that Batista Bomb, honestly.

I'm using the 2nd column sliders, but maybe I'll go back to the average again. I wonder if it's more a slider thing than ratings.

Either way, i dont think ill be doing much more rating adjustments. I think they are as low as they should go. Maybe a tweak here and there, but i think these issues are gameplay problems.

[RyanLaFalce]

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I'm using the 2nd column sliders, but maybe I'll go back to the average again. I wonder if it's more a slider thing than ratings.

Either way, i dont think ill be doing much more rating adjustments. I think they are as low as they should go. Maybe a tweak here and there, but i think these issues are gameplay problems.

Yea I think the sliders might need a slight tweaking. I had to take a break from this game because I wasn't getting the same matches before the patch.

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[Steven547]

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Yea I think the sliders might need a slight tweaking. I had to take a break from this game because I wasn't getting the same matches before the patch.

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Agreed. Pre patch i had high hopes. Seems diferent now. Sliders definitely need fixing. Anyone try to zero out the reversal sliders

[jb12780]

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Just did a Brock Lesnar vs. Bo Dallas match with the latest updates and Bo was still reversing too much for my liking.

After the first F5 I tried pinning him but he was too close to the ropes. So I kicked the **** out of him and F5'd him again. Eat sleep conquer repeat.

[jb12780]

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Agreed. Pre patch i had high hopes. Seems diferent now. Sliders definitely need fixing. Anyone try to zero out the reversal sliders

Just zeroed out all reversal sliders using Lesnar v. Dallas and it was a complete squash match. He hit one strike on me. The other strike he threw at me I reversed.

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[RyanLaFalce]

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Just zeroed out all reversal sliders using Lesnar v. Dallas and it was a complete squash match. He hit one strike on me. The other strike he threw at me I reversed.

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Try a match with Cena and Lesnar with those sliders if you haven't already.

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[Steven547]

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Just did a Brock Lesnar vs. Bo Dallas match with the latest updates and Bo was still reversing too much for my liking.

After the first F5 I tried pinning him but he was too close to the ropes. So I kicked the **** out of him and F5'd him again. Eat sleep conquer repeat.

See, i don't get it. This why I'm leaning towards what I've heard, and thatis how the gameplay changed after the patch. Bo Dallas had his stats lowered...Brock had a few RAISED...yet, it's counteracting.

Just zeroed out all reversal sliders using Lesnar v. Dallas and it was a complete squash match. He hit one strike on me. The other strike he threw at me I reversed.

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Squash being good or bad?

[jb12780]

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See, i don't get it. This why I'm leaning towards what I've heard, and thatis how the gameplay changed after the patch. Bo Dallas had his stats lowered...Brock had a few RAISED...yet, it's counteracting.



Squash being good or bad?

The second match I obliterated him. He had no chance. Dallas wouldn't stand a chance against Lesnar.

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[jb12780]

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Try a match with Cena and Lesnar with those sliders if you haven't already.

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This match was more interesting. Cena kicked out after the first F5, and Super Cena almost got to me. He kept running into my arm when trying to set up the five knuckle shuffle. Looked awful. I then gained some momentum and hit him with another F5 and pinned him.

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[RyanLaFalce]

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This match was more interesting. Cena kicked out after the first F5, and Super Cena almost got to me. He kept running into my arm when trying to set up the five knuckle shuffle. Looked awful. I then gained some momentum and hit him with another F5 and pinned him.

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Alright looks like I'm gonna put in the new edits and zero the reversals and try this out.

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[Steven547]

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This match was more interesting. Cena kicked out after the first F5, and Super Cena almost got to me. He kept running into my arm when trying to set up the five knuckle shuffle. Looked awful. I then gained some momentum and hit him with another F5 and pinned him.

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What are your slider values?

And does everyone leave the Foreign Object Attack Reverse slider at default? About 90% of the sliders sets ive looked at, no one lists a value for this.

[jb12780]

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What are your slider values?

The second set in the spreadsheet with all reversal sliders at 0.

I just did a CPU vs. CPU of the Lesnar/Cena match and it was pretty good. Cena kicked out of 1 F5, started to mount some offense, but Lesnar came back with another F5 and pinned him.

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[MLB Bob]

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Stamina and having high stamina I found made it better for kick outs and breaking submissions. If you have no stamina you cant kick out. If you are in the red health wise and have a few full stamina bars I found I was able to kick out

my solution to some of the problems mentioned ie: making PPV matches more epic, is to lower finisher strength for PPV's more than normal and have the kick outs youre looking for. since ppv are monthly its not as bad to change once in awhile.

Im also in the process of re-rating the rosters as well. a little more so than my last version I shared with Steve

[Steven547]

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Stamina and having high stamina I found made it better for kick outs and breaking submissions. If you have no stamina you cant kick out. If you are in the red health wise and have a few full stamina bars I found I was able to kick out

my solution to some of the problems mentioned ie: making PPV matches more epic, is to lower finisher strength for PPV's more than normal and have the kick outs youre looking for. since ppv are monthly its not as bad to change once in awhile.

I'll look at the ratings again today. I'm also wondering if some ratings we are looking at them wrong.

Example...reversals for Bo Dallas. If we look at these as a percentage, it makes more sense. His strike reversal is 47....I'm saying we look at that as Bo Dallas is successful 47% of the time when attempting to reverse a strike. If that is the case the 47% is pretty highfor a jobber, and could explain the amount of reversals he does.

Also, lowering stamina might be another thing to do for jobbers. Being "drastic" is not always bad when it comes to this game.