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  • trekfan
    Designated Red Shirt
    • Sep 2009
    • 5817

    #331
    Re: Second Coming: A SuperSonics Return

    NBA 2016-17 Preview

    October 21st, 2016

    By Vonny Lee


    The Cavaliers

    Previous Record: 64-18

    Key Losses: Anderson Varejao (FA), Kevin Love (trade), JR Smith (FA)

    Key Additions: LeBron James (re-signed for 3yr/$90M with player option), Tritan Thompson (3yr/$40M with player option), Mario Chalmers (1yr/$1.12M), Alan Anderson (1yr/$898K), Josh Smith (2yr/$7.5M)


    When we last saw them ...

    The Cleveland Cavaliers were watching another team celebrate a title on their home floor: for the second year in a row. LeBron James was going to be a free agent, cashing in on the big money available to the players, and Cleveland was collectively holding its breath. LeBron wouldn't leave them again, would he? Could he?

    Thankfully for the Cavs, he did not. The King reupped and reupped for a solid three years (with a fourth year option) and his return marked a big bullet dodged. Unfortunately, his return marked the end of Kevin Love in Cleveland. LeBron and Love had never really "clicked" despite the two players claiming otherwise and Love's almost passive nature as a third option on the court had harmed his value, his reputation, and his play. Only three years ago Love was averaging 26 PPG and 12 RPG -- since his arrival in Cleveland, those numbers are nowhere to be found.

    LeBron's return came with the promise that Tristan Thompson would be re-signed by the team for the long-term and Thompson got his money. He, like Irving and LeBron, will be on the books through 2018 (with an option in 2019). This Cleveland core could all leave at the same time if they wanted to.

    Love was the odd man out, as well as old favorite Anderson Varejo, whom had to be let go due to his cap hit and the limited flexibility Cleveland would have if disaster struck the roster during the course of the season. In a very Godfather way, LeBron sacrificed his friend Varejao to assure the future of Thompson, then quietly shipped Kevin Love away.

    Where did Love go? To the only team desperate enough for star power who would take Love's cap hit, his need to be the number one option, and deal with his unique skillset (and temperament). Only one team could do all that and that was the Charlotte Hornets.



    Charlotte traded away their 2017 pick (top-10 protected) and a pick way down the line in 2020 (top-3 protected). What this means for Charlotte is another matter entirely, but for Cleveland the trade saved them cap space and allowed them to re-sign Thompson, which pleased King James.

    The addition of a few ring chases -- from former squire to King James, Mario Chalmers, to the sometimes exciting/excruciating Josh Smith -- have allowed the Cavs roster room to breathe and be effective. It's not quite the same team as the one that made the Finals twice, but that might be what allows them to win for a change.


    Storyline to Follow:

    Is David Blatt next?

    The heads are beginning to roll in the kingdom of LeBron. Numerous sources over the last two seasons have confirmed that LeBron, in essence, is running every facet of that organization. He approved of the Love trade and the Blatt hiring, but they weren't his ideas and now that Love is gone, one must wonder if Blatt is next on the chopping block.

    The relationship between the league's premier star and the coach of that star can be described as chilly at times, disrespectful at others, and a non-factor for a majority of it. Out of all the coaches LeBron James has had in the NBA, only one is still in the league -- Spolestra. Everyone else has disappeared and Blatt could be the next one to bite the dust.

    If Cleveland fails to make the Finals -- a possibility with the roster turnover -- will the Cavs fire Blatt? Will LeBron demand Tyronn Lue, former player and coach he respects, be put into his place?

    Lue received multiple offers this offseason for coaching positions but turned them all down. One has to wonder why, especially with quality organizations looking his way. If I were David Blatt, I'd keep a suitcase packed just in case.

    Best Case Scenario:
    Champions, finally. After years of sniffing that rarefied air, Cleveland finally gets its trophy and King James goes down as the greatest player to ever play in the city, plain and simple. With his legendary status confirmed, LeBron plays freer than he ever has before and the golden age of Cavs basketball is upon us.

    Worst Case Scenario:
    LeBron James fails to get Cleveland back to the Finals and, as the pressure mounts for him to bring a title to the place he calls home, he begins to bear down on those around him. Cleveland's cap situation prevents them from making any significant moves and the organization begins to butt heads with their biggest star. We begin to see the cracks between the two sides and LeBron James' control over the organization results in a Jordan/Wizards situation, where no one looks good.

    Likely Scenario:
    The Cavs aren't quite the same team that made the Finals last year but they still manage to get through the East, albeit it with significant more difficulty. Cleveland's lack of depth, however, undoes them once more and they go down in the Finals in a straight sweep. David Blatt's ticket back overseas is punched and LeBron puts Lue in charge of the Cavs for the foreseeable future.
    Any comments are welcome.
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    • Getty51
      Pro
      • Jul 2009
      • 816

      #332
      Re: Second Coming: A SuperSonics Return

      Been reading since day 1. This is a fantastic dynasty and I can't wait to see where it continues to go!

      Keep up the good work, I'll be interested to see if these dynamic personalities cause any chemistry issues, especially considering that was one of the big reasons why you won the championship.
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      • Teleo
        MVP
        • Nov 2013
        • 2302

        #333
        Re: Second Coming: A SuperSonics Return

        Trekfan, I posted this in the MyGm/MyLeague thread but I have not received a response so I am posting it here to get your opinion:


        "So I've completed the first month of my Spurs franchise in MyGM and I'm having a blast! I'm new to NBA2k as I have mostly played Madden throughout the years as the sports games. There is only one complaint that I have for the MyGM mode and that is: I have no injuries to my team. The only time an injury can possibly occur to my team is if I simulate several games and an injury occurs. What is the overall consensus in this thread: is MyGM better than MyLeague or vice versa? I know this is an opinion question but I would just like to know thoughts."


        I do apologize for putting this in here as this is not what this thread is intended for but I just would like some advice on if I should continue with MyGm. I am currently 20-6 in MyGm and I do not want to start over (I will if I have to though to get a more realistic feel), I just really enjoy the aspects of MyGM. I am hoping that this could possibly be fixed in the next patch, but details have not been revealed, so I am only hoping at this point.


        This thread is a truly an amazing one from one writer's standpoint to another! Keep up the wonderful insights into your virtual world!

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        • trekfan
          Designated Red Shirt
          • Sep 2009
          • 5817

          #334
          Re: Second Coming: A SuperSonics Return

          Originally posted by Teleo
          Trekfan, I posted this in the MyGm/MyLeague thread but I have not received a response so I am posting it here to get your opinion:


          "So I've completed the first month of my Spurs franchise in MyGM and I'm having a blast! I'm new to NBA2k as I have mostly played Madden throughout the years as the sports games. There is only one complaint that I have for the MyGM mode and that is: I have no injuries to my team. The only time an injury can possibly occur to my team is if I simulate several games and an injury occurs. What is the overall consensus in this thread: is MyGM better than MyLeague or vice versa? I know this is an opinion question but I would just like to know thoughts."


          I do apologize for putting this in here as this is not what this thread is intended for but I just would like some advice on if I should continue with MyGm. I am currently 20-6 in MyGm and I do not want to start over (I will if I have to though to get a more realistic feel), I just really enjoy the aspects of MyGM. I am hoping that this could possibly be fixed in the next patch, but details have not been revealed, so I am only hoping at this point.


          This thread is a truly an amazing one from one writer's standpoint to another! Keep up the wonderful insights into your virtual world!

          If you're aiming for a semblance of realism, than MyLeague has to be the choice. MyGM is a great RPG mode but too much is out of your control (like what CPU GMs do, which is mostly trade Andre Drummond and Derrick Rose for garbage; they make Billy King look competent). MyGM won't allow you to revoke those trades or ask for your approval before them, and it won't allow you to fix rotations/rosters or anything else for any other team.

          That's why I infinitely prefer MyLeague. Yes, I have to do a lot of the work for the CPU (most of the trades they propose make sense on only a financial level, but little sense on a chemistry/team level) and it can be absolutely daunting -- but I'm an exacting sort.

          You can set the CPU to automatic on all the things you don't want to do in MyLeague (free agent signings, trades, ect) and have the CPU ask for your approval before trades (which is what I do -- I usually tell them no).

          I stay away from MyGM because of how unrealistic and wonky it gets two-three seasons down the line. It becomes way too fantasy league for me. But those are my thoughts, your mileage may vary.

          Thanks for the compliments.
          Any comments are welcome.
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          • Teleo
            MVP
            • Nov 2013
            • 2302

            #335
            Re: Second Coming: A SuperSonics Return

            Thank you so much trekfan for your quick response! I believe that I am going to hold onto the MyGM franchise that I have and begin a new one in MyLeague and look to see the differences. I really enjoy the RPG aspects of MyGm (it is what I enjoy most out of franchises), but the lack of injuries within a game played by the user is completely unrealistic at this point which does not make it encouraging to play and pursue. Keep up the great writing as I look forward to more posts.

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            • Teleo
              MVP
              • Nov 2013
              • 2302

              #336
              Re: Second Coming: A SuperSonics Return

              Trekfan, one more question before I begin MyLeague: in the initial setup screen for MyLeague what do you have salary cap, salary cap inflation rate, and hard cap value set at?

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              • Jumpman14
                MVP
                • Jun 2013
                • 4282

                #337
                Re: Second Coming: A SuperSonics Return

                Love to CHA is a shocker. But I always had a feeling CLE would have to part with him or Thompson.

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                • trekfan
                  Designated Red Shirt
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 5817

                  #338
                  Re: Second Coming: A SuperSonics Return

                  Originally posted by Teleo
                  Trekfan, one more question before I begin MyLeague: in the initial setup screen for MyLeague what do you have salary cap, salary cap inflation rate, and hard cap value set at?
                  I left them all at their default value of 50. Now, according to the Patch 3 notes (Patch 3 was released today for he PS4, it'll be out on XBox next week likely and PC as well), the devs tweaked the players asking price during their negotiations in FA and now they ask for the right amount of money based on their talent (as opposed to the little money they do prior to Patch 3). This has been confirmed as true, with guys like Drummond asking for 18-20M a year when his new contract comes up.

                  Based on that, everything should balance out. The first cap increase will be the same, the cap going up to 90M of team salary, then another 20M or so of Luxury Tax room. After that, the cap increases will level out (theoretically). I do all 30 team control, so if team's get a ton of money to burn, I tend to up any free agent's asking price by 2-3M at least (unless circumstances warrant otherwise, IE character/injury issues or a STAR play that deserves 25M+).




                  Originally posted by Jumpman14
                  Love to CHA is a shocker. But I always had a feeling CLE would have to part with him or Thompson.
                  I really feel Love is gonna be moved IRL, though I know it isn't likely to Charlotte -- however, out of all the teams that could have made a move for him, Charlotte was both desperate enough and had the cap room to absorb Love's contract outright, both things Cleveland needed in order to get out of the Luxury Tax and have a little roster flexibility moving forward.

                  IRL, I think Love might end up going to the Suns -- he's a way superior shooter and player than Markieff Morris and he'd be able to toggle between the four and five in their lineups, but it'd take work to get him there (likely a three-team deal).
                  Last edited by trekfan; 11-14-2015, 01:36 AM.
                  Any comments are welcome.
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                  • ThunderMuffinn
                    Rookie
                    • Nov 2015
                    • 17

                    #339
                    Re: Second Coming: A SuperSonics Return

                    Great read so far! Flipped through 43 pages in about an hour (YES, I DID IT) and the MyLeague has been amazing, making me want to start my own.

                    I write sports articles (no shameless plug, amazing, I know) but am a huge gamer so combining my two passions has always been a dream. May have to steal your way of running it if it's okay with you!

                    One quick question: When you are setting up the MyLeague, do you set it so where you resign, sign and trade everyone (do you basically do it so you have full control of all teams) or do you have it so where they, for say, resign players for themselves. If it's the latter, how do you do it.

                    Thank you in advance and my apologies for the length of the post and any grammar mistakes that may be present in this. Congratulations on the chip, LOVE seeing the Cavs go down as I am a Miami Heat fan.

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                    • trekfan
                      Designated Red Shirt
                      • Sep 2009
                      • 5817

                      #340
                      Re: Second Coming: A SuperSonics Return

                      Originally posted by ThunderMuffinn
                      Great read so far! Flipped through 43 pages in about an hour (YES, I DID IT) and the MyLeague has been amazing, making me want to start my own.

                      I write sports articles (no shameless plug, amazing, I know) but am a huge gamer so combining my two passions has always been a dream. May have to steal your way of running it if it's okay with you!

                      One quick question: When you are setting up the MyLeague, do you set it so where you resign, sign and trade everyone (do you basically do it so you have full control of all teams) or do you have it so where they, for say, resign players for themselves. If it's the latter, how do you do it.

                      Thank you in advance and my apologies for the length of the post and any grammar mistakes that may be present in this. Congratulations on the chip, LOVE seeing the Cavs go down as I am a Miami Heat fan.

                      Thanks for the compliments!

                      Yeah, for MyLeague, I do all the signing/trading/re-signing. I ran a few test franchises with the CPU doing all that before I started this one up and every time LeBron ended up leaving the Cavs, Drummond or Rose got traded, and multiple players signed with teams that had money but had no chance of winning (despite the players putting a huge importance on chasing a ring), so for this MyLeague I do it all.

                      Now, I do have it set where the CPU can make trade offers to one another, but I must approve it before it happens (and 99% of the time I don't because the CPU is bad at trades) but I keep it on to see what things might happen (and maybe steal their ideas if I need to).

                      Speaking of this MyLeague ...

                      UPDATE:

                      Must apologize of the lack of posts recently. We're finishing up a huge project at work and I'm finding myself pretty wiped when I get home. We'll hopefully be through the worst of it this week and I can resume posting this upcoming weekend -- we have two posts nearly ready to go (for the Pelicans and the Heat) exploring the changes those teams have undergone (each one did something big this offseason).

                      Plus, I'd really like to wait for Patch #3 to drop before beginning the next season (as it, apparently, fixes a lot of CPU gameplay issues and makes things much better on the court from what the PS4 folks are saying).

                      Stay tuned for more and thanks for keeping the faith.
                      Any comments are welcome.
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                      • Jumpman14
                        MVP
                        • Jun 2013
                        • 4282

                        #341
                        Re: Second Coming: A SuperSonics Return

                        Patch 3 dropped last week Trek.

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                        • trekfan
                          Designated Red Shirt
                          • Sep 2009
                          • 5817

                          #342
                          Re: Second Coming: A SuperSonics Return

                          Originally posted by Jumpman14
                          Patch 3 dropped last week Trek.
                          For the PS4. I'm on PC (and happier for it), according to everything I've heard Patch 3 isn't here yet for anyone but the PS4.
                          Any comments are welcome.
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                          • Jumpman14
                            MVP
                            • Jun 2013
                            • 4282

                            #343
                            Re: Second Coming: A SuperSonics Return

                            Forgot you're on the pc. Blonde moment lol

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                            • trekfan
                              Designated Red Shirt
                              • Sep 2009
                              • 5817

                              #344
                              Re: Second Coming: A SuperSonics Return

                              Looks like Patch 3 for PC has dropped. I'll DL it when I get back home and then we'll proceed with getting through as many team previews as we can this weekend before the start of season 2. Thanks for keeping the faith, folks.
                              Any comments are welcome.
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                              • trekfan
                                Designated Red Shirt
                                • Sep 2009
                                • 5817

                                #345
                                Re: Second Coming: A SuperSonics Return

                                NBA 2016-17 Preview

                                October 21st, 2016

                                By Vonny Lee


                                The Pelicans

                                Previous Record: 41-41

                                Key Losses: Eric Gordon (FA), Ryan Anderson (FA)

                                Key Additions: Joakim Noah (2yr/$20M with a player option), Joe Johnson (2yr/$18M with a player option),


                                When we last saw them ...

                                The Pelicans were walking off their court, heads down, the tunnel leading them back to their longer room looking longer than ever before. NOLA made it into the playoffs as the eighth seed and surprised the hell out of the Rockets, then the Warriors, knocking out the first seed and defending champs in back to back rounds.

                                But they had no answers for the Sonics, who came into their series hot and kept snatching wins away from the jaws of defeat over and over, teasing the Pelicans -- and Anthony Davis in particular -- with wins but never allowing the young squad to actually get one.

                                Seattle swept them in a close four game series and NOLA had to turn their attention to the offseason. The need for a proper front-court mate for Anthony Davis had never been greater and the Pelicans scored one of the best complimentary centers on the market: Joakim Noah.

                                Noah, whom was not re-signed by the Bulls (much to the disappointment of their fanbase), instantly became the go-to target for NOLA as they searched for a player who could change the complexion of the game without forcing Davis to sacrifice much in return. Noah can do that -- with his superb passing, rebounding, and defense, the big man can still affect the outcome of games even after all the miles he accumulated since entering the league.

                                Next up was finding some stability at small forward and that's where the veteran Joe Johnson comes in. Johnson, who's not as athletic as he once was, can still play a mean game as a SF and had a career year last season as he toiled away on the 76ers and then the Magic. Averaging only 32 minutes a game, Johnson scored 17.7 PPG, nabbed five boards, and dished out nearly that many assists while shooting 44 percent from the field and 38 percent from deep.

                                Johnson and Noah's addition signals ownership's willingness to go out and get players for Davis, even if they are older than anyone else on the team: Johnson and Noah should both benefit from Gentry's system and, thanks to the depth behind the two, should be able to rest up some nights if necessary.

                                The Pelicans had to make room on the team for them both, however, and let Eric Gordon and Ryan Anderson both walk -- neither player having paid off as management imagined upon them arriving in NOLA.

                                Storyline to Follow:

                                Can the Pelicans get back to the playoffs?


                                It seems like every year that NOLA starts out with high hopes, but then is crushed by the injury bug. The addition of two veteran players with many miles on their legs has some in the NBA feeling the Pelicans are setting themselves up for another repeat performance of what's become a yearly tradition: Davis or many of his supporting cast will go down with injuries for weeks at a time, putting the Pelicans in a hole and forcing the team to dig themselves out as the season progresses, resulting in the squad squeaking into the playoffs.

                                The Pelicans have every confidence that this year they'll be contenders, especially with a starting five with as much talent as theirs and a deep bench (if not an overpaid bench) backing up their most important players.

                                But, if the Pelicans should fail to make the playoffs, don't expect this team to remain the same next season. Both Evans and Holiday are free agents and both players have taken their fair share of criticism as the reasons for the team's struggles in the past. Expect there to be rumblings of trades if the Pelicans start off poorly.

                                Best Case Scenario:
                                Serious contention. The addition of Noah and Johnson give the Pelicans the veteran experience to weather the ups and downs of the NBA season, allowing the team to stay afloat as one or more of the starters miss time. The Pelicans grab a top-four seed out West and this team becomes one anyone wants to avoid as Anthony Davis ascends to Mount Olympus and rips the title of "Most Versatile NBA Superstar" from the hands of a declining LeBron James, finally putting NOLA on the map as a basketball town and securing a permanent place as an annual NBA MVP candidate.

                                Worst Case Scenario:
                                The injury bug strikes Anthony Davis and strikes hard. Davis, who has avoided a crippling, career threatening injury to this point, finally suffers one that sends chills down the spine of every Pelicans fan. Listless and without their superstar, NOLA tumbles down the standings and finishes near the bottom of the West.

                                Likely Scenario:
                                The Pelicans will take time to gel, but they'll present teams with problems, especially with the savvy vets of Johnson and Noah. Expect Noah and Davis to both miss time at some point in the season, but the Pelicans survive and finished with at least 45 wins, securing a playoff bid.
                                Any comments are welcome.
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