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  • trekfan
    Designated Red Shirt
    • Sep 2009
    • 5817

    #121
    Re: Second Coming: A SuperSonics Return

    Sonics Make Move

    February 10th, 2016

    By Vonny Lee



    The trade deadline is now just over a week away but Seattle has seemingly made its move: the Sonics have traded Gary Neal and Shane Larkin to the Hornets for Jeremy Lin and Brian Roberts.

    And that's it. Much to the chagrin of some fans, the Sonics have decided to remain firm in their quest for internal development and have announced changes to their second unit going forward.

    "I first want to thank Shane and Gary for their contributions this season; they've been professional throughout and I anticipate them having success in Charlotte. For our end, the deal to bring Jeremy and Brian here was a deal that was worked out over many days ... we really thought long and hard about it, but the experience of these two players is something we value going forward," said owner and GM Max Newman.

    Mad Max has been rumored to be involved in multiple mega-trades -- none of which took place. One scout within the organization, who has requested to remain anonymous, believes that the Sonics are ready to bet on someone already on the roster.

    "It's Bogdanovic," said the scout. "He's been in the doghouse all year, but he's been practicing, he's been pushing, and so has his agent; they wanted a trade or more minutes and Hollins was finally satisfied with the way Bogdanovic was moving on defense. He's plugging Bog-Dog in as the backup three, with a bit of two in there, and they're going to use his spacing out there on the floor."

    The trade seems small and ineffective on the whole -- Lin seems to have peaked as a player and looks to have little to offer that we haven't already seen -- but he'll be more capable at the point than Larkin or Neal was, and is shooting a higher percentage than either of them at this point.

    For the Hornets, this trade is the first in what appears to be a series of trades -- Hawes is rumored to be on the move now, as well as Jeremy Lamb, both players that the Hornets front office are displeased with. Neal, familiar with Charlotte from his experience there two years ago (also the last time they made the playoffs), will immediately slide in as the starting two, hoping to pick up where he left off the last time he was in Charlotte.

    As for Larkin, he's a younger and cheaper backup than either Roberts or Lin, and should be able to better play to his strengths in an offense that has Kemba Walker as it's starter.

    Whether this trade will be enough for either team to succeed in the last two months of the season is another question entirely. One one hand, don't fix it if it ain't broken ... on the other, the playoffs are a different beast altogether than the regular season; did Seattle do too little here?

    We'll only know at the end of the regular season.
    Any comments are welcome.
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    • eyes of hazel
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      • Oct 2008
      • 271

      #122
      Re: Second Coming: A SuperSonics Return

      [Half Baked] "BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO THIS MAN!"



      LOLOLOLOLOL!

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      • bryan3169
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        • May 2013
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        #123
        Re: Second Coming: A SuperSonics Return

        Oh this is one of those trades that'll turn a fan base against you! I think Max is trying to generate loses...


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        • eyes of hazel
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          • Oct 2008
          • 271

          #124
          Re: Second Coming: A SuperSonics Return

          This is just classic in so many ways. I'm dying laughing at myself.

          As a fan/follower, I wasn't promised ANYTHING. Yet, I reacted like I did as if I was entitled for "my Sonics" to make a splash.

          This reminds of WWE a few years back...

          All these promos and vignettes for this monster Brodus Clay to arrive, and when the day comes to debut, you get the Funkasaurus!

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          • KCSpade63219
            Just started!
            • Oct 2015
            • 2

            #125
            Re: Second Coming: A SuperSonics Return

            This was the first dynasty I've read on here, and along with others makes me want to do my own. I used to do it heavily myself with NCAAF's Dynastywire. My only question is how did you do your logos? I've got some pre-made one I just wanna alter but cant find a simple program to do so. Following for sure.

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            • trekfan
              Designated Red Shirt
              • Sep 2009
              • 5817

              #126
              Re: Second Coming: A SuperSonics Return

              Originally posted by bryan3169
              Oh this is one of those trades that'll turn a fan base against you! I think Max is trying to generate loses...


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              Originally posted by eyes of hazel
              This is just classic in so many ways. I'm dying laughing at myself.

              As a fan/follower, I wasn't promised ANYTHING. Yet, I reacted like I did as if I was entitled for "my Sonics" to make a splash.

              This reminds of WWE a few years back...

              All these promos and vignettes for this monster Brodus Clay to arrive, and when the day comes to debut, you get the Funkasaurus!
              LOL. Hey, I know, I know! But I just couldn't pull the trigger on a giant trade. Despite the talent I'd get back, I really had to weigh the pros and cons here -- I'm really quite attached to most of these guys. The team has outperformed and outstripped my expectations and, really, the whole is more than the sum of the parts.

              That said, I hate playing with Gary Neal -- I can't score with him to save my life. I liked Shane, but I had no plans to bring him back anyway, so I sent the two of them to Charlotte, where they'll be useful.

              J-Lin is one of my favorite NBA players and Linsanity was one of the most fun stretches for a player (and the NBA as a whole) in forever; to have him here is great. Roberts is backup in case someone gets hurt, but I needed him to make the math work out.

              I'll have more of an in-depth explanation for the move (and the non-moves) later today from a story standpoint, but I really, really like the squad as a whole; this is my group of guys I'm going to battle with in the playoffs.

              Originally posted by KCSpade63219
              This was the first dynasty I've read on here, and along with others makes me want to do my own. I used to do it heavily myself with NCAAF's Dynastywire. My only question is how did you do your logos? I've got some pre-made one I just wanna alter but cant find a simple program to do so. Following for sure.
              Thanks for the follow! I use an old version of Photoshop to alter my logos (C3 from 2007 I think) but you can easily use GIMP, too (it's free). Alter them, remove the backgrounds, and save it as a PNG (super-important -- as a PNG those pesky white background don't show up in-game, even though the thumbnail will make it look like it's there), then upload it to the 2K site.
              Any comments are welcome.
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              • eyes of hazel
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                • Oct 2008
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                #127
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                • Gensi2k
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                  • Nov 2013
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                  #128
                  Re: Second Coming: A SuperSonics Return

                  I appreciate the trade. Lin is a higher lever than Larkin. No question
                  Sorry for my english!

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                  • trekfan
                    Designated Red Shirt
                    • Sep 2009
                    • 5817

                    #129
                    Re: Second Coming: A SuperSonics Return

                    Originally posted by eyes of hazel
                    I feel bad for trading Shane, I swear I do. I really did like him (and his mini-fro).

                    I don't feel bad at all for Gary. He's probably going back to the Spurs in the offseason, because that's what all the former Spurs who left do after a few years on their own. I couldn't play with him, the dude was useless to me on the floor (it was like 4 on 5 out there!).

                    Love the Facebook, post, though. Gonna steal that (and encourage you to keep making more!).





                    Originally posted by Gensi2k
                    I appreciate the trade. Lin is a higher lever than Larkin. No question
                    Exactly! Lin can do either the 1 or the 2, he'll be super-useful off the bench and, as an added bonus, he has an axe to grind with quite a few of our rivals (the Rockets, the Lakers, the Warriors) and I like players who have axes to grind; they want to prove something to those teams that let them go and Lin (much like Gortat and a few others on my roster) have the skills to make dudes pay.

                    Lin's gonna be epic -- he'll probably ascend to the starting role next season if all goes according to plan (decent performance from now till the playoffs, then a good showing on the big stage).

                    And if Lin's not great, I'll be okay; the PG market for free agency is decent this season (a bunch of vets) and I'm looking for a guy to be a placeholder as I train up a young point to pair with Jefferson and Noel for the future core of the team.
                    Any comments are welcome.
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                    • vinaa23
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                      • Apr 2013
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                      #130
                      Re: Second Coming: A SuperSonics Return

                      Wow, I take some time off the forums and now this happen? Seems like I have some catching up to do. Good luck, my friend. Will be following as usual
                      "It matters not how strait the gate
                      How charged with punishments the scroll
                      I am the master of my fate
                      I am the captain of my soul"



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                      • trekfan
                        Designated Red Shirt
                        • Sep 2009
                        • 5817

                        #131
                        Re: Second Coming: A SuperSonics Return

                        Originally posted by vinaa23
                        Wow, I take some time off the forums and now this happen? Seems like I have some catching up to do. Good luck, my friend. Will be following as usual
                        Welcome back! Yeah, I've gotten a full head of steam on this. Stay tuned for more as we wrap up the trade deadline and head into the latter half of the season.

                        Thanks for the follow.
                        Any comments are welcome.
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                        • trekfan
                          Designated Red Shirt
                          • Sep 2009
                          • 5817

                          #132
                          Re: Second Coming: A SuperSonics Return



                          February 10th, 2016


                          The rain came down in a steady stream as he sat in his office, a steaming cup of apple cider in his hands. The reactions to the trade had been more visceral than he'd anticipated; fans were either calling him heartless for sending away two solid players or were lauding him for taking Lin from the Hornets for nothing.

                          Cho was desperate and pushed hard for a bigger trade; he really wanted to unload Hawes on the team, but Max wasn't going to have any of that. He was satisfied with their big rotation (Robinson had been doing well for them) and Hawes was not a player that fit into their scheme.

                          Hawes was a good shooter but Hollins had no use for that from his bigs; he needed them to play defense, get rebounds, and make shots inside. Wear down the other team and strike when they're at their weakest.

                          Hawes was a Seattle guy, Max would have made the move at the beginning of the season without question, but the the team was established now, they were part of the community. Trading Larkin hadn't been easy ... Max liked him as a player and a person.

                          Neal wasn't nearly the player he once was, though, and Max hadn't had much of a preference for him or his play. Where Neal struggled in the offense, Lin (and to a lesser extent, Roberts) would excel. Hollins was finally convinced Bogdanovic was ready to see the floor, after an offseason where the coach was far less than impressed with the way the player had progressed.

                          Hollins hadn't been super-pleased to see two members of his bench traded, but he was looking forward to coaching Lin; offensively, the man would light a match for their second unit, and defensively he was more than competent enough for the opposing team's bench (and maybe a few of their starters).

                          The trade benefited everyone and Max didn't overreach ... but the temptation to do so was there. It was still in his mind that he could land a big star in a deal, but that kind of change during the middle of the season was a sign of desperation most times.

                          Lin and Roberts would arrive in Seattle over the All-Star break and their first game would likely be against the Pacers on the 19th, though Hollins might let them take it a bit slower and not use them till the Cavs game on the 21st. Whatever the case, Max was done making moves now.

                          There were things he was considering for the offseason, however. With that thought, he allowed himself to smile.
                          Any comments are welcome.
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                          • trekfan
                            Designated Red Shirt
                            • Sep 2009
                            • 5817

                            #133
                            Re: Second Coming: A SuperSonics Return

                            Hornets Move Hawes

                            February 11th, 2016

                            By Vonny Lee




                            Spencer Hawes and Troy Daniels are on the move, heading to the Warriors for Jason Thompson, James McAdoo and a 2nd rounder. The trade allows the Warriors to bring in a stretch big man who can help alleviate some spacing issues they've encountered this season with two of their biggest players (Bogut and Iggy) out with injury. Hawes will become a key cog in Kerr's rotation.

                            For the Hornets, this is a grab for Thompson's shorter contract (he has a team option at the end of the year) and McAdoo, a former Tarheel that Jordan has had his eye on. McAdoo has not had a chance to show what he can do in this league and he'll find it equally hard to crack the rotation in Charlotte (who is sporting multiple bigs competing for time).
                            Any comments are welcome.
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                            • Gensi2k
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                              • Nov 2013
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                              #134
                              Re: Second Coming: A SuperSonics Return

                              GSW has Speights in roster yet? I think it's a very similar player to Hawes except for the smallest range. But if Bogut and Iggy are both injured they made a good move.
                              Sorry for my english!

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                              • trekfan
                                Designated Red Shirt
                                • Sep 2009
                                • 5817

                                #135
                                Re: Second Coming: A SuperSonics Return

                                Originally posted by Gensi2k
                                GSW has Speights in roster yet? I think it's a very similar player to Hawes except for the smallest range. But if Bogut and Iggy are both injured they made a good move.
                                They have Speights, yeah, but he's playing starter minutes at this point (with Festus backing him up) and Thompson was giving them junk off the bench. Bogut is out for another month or two, Iggy at least that long, and they're hurting.

                                I figured they wouldn't mind taking on the cap hit of Hawes for his shooting off the bench -- Warriors love spreading the floor and Hawes is good enough at either the 4 or 5 to play with Bogut or Green, so it gives them a nice weapon if he plays up to his level. If not, I'm sure the Sonics might buy low on him come the offseason.
                                Any comments are welcome.
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