Redskins (HC 09)

[BrnwsBucksFanNC]

Re: Redskins (HC 09)

The draft is over and the Redskins were able to address some major needs, but there are others that will need to be addressed later on in the season.

NFL Draft - Redskins Draft Picks
Pick	Player	College	Pos	Ht	Wt
1-21	Traded to Ravens, 2-38, 4-103, 09 5th
2-6	Campbell		DE
2-19	Lee		CB
3-20	Dre Moore		DT
3-32	Caldwell		WR
4-7	Steltz		SS
5-21	Tamme		TE
5-3	Urruita		WR
6-20	Stewart		FB
6-28	Morgan		WR
7-21	Bake		DE
UDFA	Buckingham		HB
UDFA	Jessup		SS
UDFA	Slaton		WR
UDFA	Rubin		DT
UDFA	Scandrick		CB

[Xyaljen]

Re: Redskins (HC 09)

Actually I've seen Campbell go around the 39-41 range but that was just once. Whatever, too late now. Always better to get guys you know you want a bit early anyways.

[BrnwsBucksFanNC]

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Washington Redskins Depth Chart - 2008
Regular Offense
	STARTER	2ND	3RD	4TH
WR	Santana Moss (79)	Andre Caldwell (76/84) (R)	Antwan Randel El (72)
TE	Chris Cooley (86/87)	Bo Scaife (71/76)	Jacob Tamme (67/74) (R)
LT	Chris Samuels (90)	Anthony Alabi (80/82)
LG	Todd Wade (84)	Zach Sweeney (80/83) (R)
C	Casey Rabach (83)	Kevin Sampson (81)
RG	Randy Thomas (88)	Nat Dorsey (80/81)
RT	Jon Jansen (90)	Stephon Heyer (82/85)
WR	Roydell Williams (75/85)	Mario Urrutia (71/79) (R)	Josh Cribbs (69/78)
QB	Jason Campbell (77/86)	Todd Collins (78)	Dino Gibson (64/81) (R)
FB	Carl Stewart (76/84) (R)	Evan Jackson (75/80) (R)
HB	Clinton Portis (89)	Michael Robinson (79/87)	Ladell Betts (76)
Base 4-3 Defense
	STARTER	2ND	3RD	4TH
LDE	Andre Carter (78/79)	Tony Bake (75/83) (R)
LDT	Dre Moore (84/91) (R)	Kedric Gholston (70/72)
RDT	Cornelius Griffin (80/81)	Athya Rubin (80/84) (R)
RDE	Calais Campbell (84/89) (R)	Dwayne Jansen (75/81) (R)
WLB	Marcus Washington (85)	Clifford Avril (81/86) (R)
MLB	London Fletcher-Baker (81)	Jay Houston (74/82) (R)
SLB	Terrell Suggs (88)	Rocky McIntosh (74/82)
CB	Shawn Springs (83)	Fred Smoot (78)	Demarcus McMillian (71/81) (R)
SS	Craig Steltz (80/87) (R)	Traye Jessup (72/78) (R)
FS	Laron Landry (90/93)	RJ Jordan (71/77) (R)
CB	Carlos Rogers (77/83)	Patrick Lee (74/86) (R)
Special Teams
	STARTER	2ND	3RD	4TH
K	Lawrence Tynes (83)
P	Michael Koenen (82/86)
PR	Santana Moss	Josh Cribbs
KR	Stanta Moss	Josh Cribbs	Patrick Lee

[BrnwsBucksFanNC]

Re: Redskins (HC 09)

Actually I've seen Campbell go around the 39-41 range but that was just once. Whatever, too late now. Always better to get guys you know you want a bit early anyways.

I was thinking about trading down again, but this draft was going really strangely. So I didn't want to chance it. If I remember correctly, Woodson was taken early in the 3rd and I think he normally goes later than that. This was not one of my best drafts, but I was able to fill a lot of holes from FA.

[Aurabolt127]

Re: Redskins (HC 09)

Not one of your better drafts? You took about every known sleeper and surefire superstar there is! LOL!!! Who else did you want? I saw you got Avril, but he wasn't on your draft list - someone actually cut him?

Good luck on the season!

[BrnwsBucksFanNC]

Re: Redskins (HC 09)

The pre season is over and it pointed out some problems the Redskins need to address in the near future. Even though the team went 3-1, beating the Bills 2-17, the Jets 10-0, and the Panthers 24-17 before a Week 4 loss to the Jaguars 21-18, the offense line needs some major work.

Also, RB Clinton Portis with his 77 Health is going to be a challenge and OLB Washington, Health 79, means they need to be replaced soon.

The Owner expects me to finish below .500 and I promised to finish above. I hope I can pull it off.

Walking the tightrope with the cap will be fun as well. There are 20 players that want to re-sign and only about $9 million to do it with. So we will see how this goes.

Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated because this is new ground for me. I have the Ozzie Jones path so that will be new as well.

[BrnwsBucksFanNC]

Re: Redskins (HC 09)

Not one of your better drafts? You took about every known sleeper and surefire superstar there is! LOL!!! Who else did you want? I saw you got Avril, but he wasn't on your draft list - someone actually cut him?

Good luck on the season!

The biggest problem was no one wanted to trade! There were some other players I wanted to get but they were picking them all over the place. I think getting a new GM will help a lot (that is one of the owners goals for me) but this draft just didn't go smooth...

FA was VERY good to me. I actually picked up most of the Rookies there. I was really shocked Avril was cut as well and he is a much needed back-up with Washington in the shape he is in.

[Mike3207]

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I don't think there's anything wrong with going after sleepers and surefire superstars. You're not doing your job as GM if you don't. A good GM will assemble the best possible roster, and phase out the excess.

Spoiler

Pretty sure the Jones path has pretty good OLB. I just don't like that path because the player models are messed up.

[BrnwsBucksFanNC]

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Washington Redskins at New York Giants
Sep 4, 2008	1ST	2ND	3RD	4TH	SCORE
Washington Redskins (0-1)	0	7	14	0	21
New York Giants (1-0)	3	7	3	15	28

Team Stats Comparison
	WAS	NYG
Total Offense	299	360
Rushing Yards	68	110
Passing Yards	231	250
First Downs	11	16
Punt Return Yards	0	19
Kick Return Yards	166	122
Total Yards	465	501
Turnovers	4	3
3rd Down Converstion	4-12	5-11
4th Down Conversion	0-1	0-0
2-Point Conversion	0-0	1-1
Red Zone Touchdowns/Field Goals	2-3	3-5
Penalties	9-50	3-15
Posession Time	27:51	31:44

Scoring Summary
FIRST QUARTER SCORING		WAS	NYG
	(NYG) Suisham, 57 yard FG	0	3
SECOND QUARTER SCORING		WAS	NYG
	(WAS) WR Caldwell, 48 yard pass from Campbell	7	3
	(NYG) Hedgecock, 1 yard run	7	10
THIRD QUARTER SCORING		WAS	NYG
	(NYG) Suisham, 23 yard FG	7	13
	(WAS) WR Moss, 7 yard pass from Campbell	14	13
	(WAS) TE Scaife, 10 yard pass from Campbell	21	13
FOURTH QUARTER SCORING		WAS	NYG
	(NYG) Toomer, 12 yard pass from Manning, 2 pt good	21	21
	(NYG) Mendenhall, 3 yard run	21	28

Washington Redskins PASSING C/A YDS TD INT Campbell 13/25 231 3 3 RUSHING ATT YDS AVG TD Portis 15 64 4.2 0 Campbell 2 5 2.5 0 Robinson 7 -1 -0.1 0 RECEIVING REC YDS AVG TD Moss 7 119 17.0 1 Scaife 2 23 11.5 1 Williams 2 37 18.5 0 Caldwell 1 48 48.0 1 Betts 1 4 4.0 0 Cooley 0 0 0 0 DEFENSE TACK SACK INT TD Washington 12 0 1 Suggs 7 0 0 Griffin 2 1 0 Springs 5 0 1 KICKING FG XP PTS LONG Tyne 0 0 3 3

New York Giants PASSING C/A YDS TD INT Manning 15/28 250 1 2 RUSHING ATT YDS AVG TD Jacobs 19 64 3.3 0 Mendenhall 6 45 7.5 1 Hedgecock 1 1 1.0 1 RECEIVING REC YDS AVG TD Burress 4 100 25.0 0 Smith 3 47 15.6 0 Shockey 3 34 11.3 0 Toomer 2 42 21.0 1 Jacobs 1 5 5.0 0 Tyree 1 11 11.0 0 Mendenhall 1 11 11.0 0 DEFENSE TACK SACK INT TD Pierce 9 1 0 0 Uminyisora 7 1 0 0 Ross 5 0 1 0 Deosse 4 1 0 0 Robbins 2 1 0 0 Tuck 2 1 0 0 Madison 2 0 1 0 McQuarters 0 0 1 0 KICKING FG XP PTS LONG Suisham 2/3 2/2

[BrnwsBucksFanNC]

Re: Redskins (HC 09)

Just a couple of observations....

mrs844224, I agree, it just seems weird on that draft because I seem to know most of the players on it. I wont have that problem in the next one though!

My offensive line is just that...OFFENSIVE! It will be the thing that causes me the most problems this season I think, giving up 5 sacks...ouch!

Oh...I had a punt blocked in this game! I guess it was in that 4th Quarter when they unleashed on me.

That is the one thing I hate about just simming games...don't know when stuff happens...

[Aurabolt127]

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I don't think there's anything wrong with going after sleepers and surefire superstars. You're not doing your job as GM if you don't. A good GM will assemble the best possible roster, and phase out the excess.

No, there's nothing wrong with it, but in the NFL, every GM's draft has misses. Sometimes BIG ones. They don't know where every single Pro Bowler is and get a half-dozen of them magically every time in the 5th to 7th round. No one drafts 5 Tom Brady's each year. And if you take all the top POT guys, (usually the same guys), again and again - what's the point? You're just changing helmets on the same core roster. I could fill my roster up each time with the same guys everyone takes and go 16-0 and win 8 super bowls in a row - but that's boring and pointless to me. Every 2008 draft you see the same guys getting drafted/UDFA. I avoid drafting any of those guys anymore just 'cause you seem them on everyone's franchise - some I haven't drafted in years.

Still, it's a game, just play how you want and have fun, whether you're shooting for realism or an arcade game... Fun is that's all that matters. Just my opinions... hope no one takes offense.

[BrnwsBucksFanNC]

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none taken here...

it is very difficult when I seem to know every player in this draft now. just like everyone else, even though I want realism, I still want to win. So yea, I got Moore, Campbell and Steltz, but most of the others were new to me since I was in a bind with this team. I spent a lot of time scouting the players I didn't know to try to make the most of what I had to work with.

But yes, the temptation is there and it is hard to resist, but then again, the research is what draws me back to this game so much...

[Mike3207]

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BrownsFan-you still using the house rule about not using Individual Workouts?

[BrnwsBucksFanNC]

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BrownsFan-you still using the house rule about not using Individual Workouts?

Yep, I think that gives me too much info...and when I first started playing the game the computer seemed to just draft everyone I was targeting that way. So now, I just do them on the top players listed in the draft to see who will be a bust Unless I have a top 15 pick...then I don't even do them.

I also do not actually move players on my draftboard. Once again, I know it is probably stupid, but it just felt like if I moved them, then the cpu would target them. So I have my sheets of paper with my own draftboard written on them.

[BrnwsBucksFanNC]

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New Orleans Saints at Washington Redskins
Sep 14, 2008	1ST	2ND	3RD	4TH	SCORE
New Orleans Saints (1-1)	7	0	0	0	7
Washington Redskins (1-1)	0	3	7	7	17

Team Stats Comparison
	NOR	WAS
Total Offense	375	297
Rushing Yards	33	135
Passing Yards	342	162
First Downs	20	14
Punt Return Yards	33	10
Kick Return Yards	105	54
Total Yards	513	361
Turnovers	3	0
3rd Down Converstion	3-8	7-15
4th Down Conversion	0	0
2-Point Conversion	0	0
Red Zone Touchdowns/Field Goals	1/0	2/0
Penalties	6-50	7-75
Posession Time	23:52	36:08

Scoring Summary
FIRST QUARTER SCORING		NOR	WAS
	(NOR) Walker, 12 yard pass from Brees	7	0
SECOND QUARTER SCORING		NOR	WAS
	(WAS) Tynes, 34 yard FG	7	3
THIRD QUARTER SCORING		NOR	WAS
	(WAS) Robinson, 3 yard run	7	10
FOURTH QUARTER SCORING		NOR	WAS
	(WAS) Robinson, 1 yard run	7	17

New Orleans Saints PASSING C/A YDS TD INT Brees 23/40 342 1 3 RUSHING ATT YDS AVG TD Bush 8 23 2.8 0 Brees 2 10 5.0 0 RECEIVING REC YDS AVG TD Bush 11 139 12.6 0 Colston 6 105 17.5 0 Walker 4 68 17.0 1 Campbell 1 22 22.0 0 Franklin 1 8 8.0 0 BLOCKING PANCAKE SACK Dunn 1 2 Evans 1 0 Brown 0 2 Campbell 1 0 Wallace 1 0 DEFENSE TACK SACK INT TD Vilma 9 0 0 0 Mitchell 9 0 0 0 Mckenzie 6 0 0 0 Grant 3 1 0 0 Clancy 1 1 0 0 KICKING FG XP PTS LONG Hall 0/1 1/1 1

Washington Redskins PASSING C/A YDS TD INT Campbell 12/20 162 0 0 RUSHING ATT YDS AVG TD Portis 19 70 3.6 0 Robinson 14 30 2.1 2 Campbell 4 18 4.5 0 Betts 4 17 4.2 0 RECEIVING REC YDS AVG TD Moss 4 40 10.0 0 Caldwell 3 73 24.3 0 Williams 2 22 11.0 0 Cooley 2 14 7.0 0 Scaife 1 13 13.0 0 BLOCKING PANCAKE SACK Janson 3 1 Wade 1 1 DEFENSE TACK SACK INT TD Washington 8 0 0 0 Smoot 6 0 0 0 Jansen 2 2 0 0 Carter 2 2 0 0 Moore 1 1 0 0 Rogers 3 0 1 0 Springs 4 0 1 0 Houston 3 0 1 0 KICKING FG XP PTS LONG Tynes 1/1 2/2 5 34