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  • jsquigg
    MVP
    • Nov 2003
    • 1167

    #406
    Re: Mike Leach fired

    Originally posted by GAMEC0CK2002
    All of this could have been avoided if Leach just went ahead and dismissed the kid if he was as lazy as he claims. Why keep the dead weight around?

    The truth is always somewhere in the middle in these sorta cases. Looks like plenty of blame to go around.
    I agree 100%. The bottom line is that regardless of how badly Adam and/or his dad acted, it hasn't been documented and Leach broke the code of conduct even by his own account. He could have apologized (and I can understand why he wouldn't from his POV) but he didn't and there is enough there to fire him.
    Before people call me a James sympathizer, I too, would rather be punished with a "time out" than to have to do a strenuous exercise, but the two had a problem with each other and Leach left the door cracked enough for Adam to call him on it.
    I can't say I would've been in Adam's position to begin with, but if I was I probably wouldn't have complained about it, although he obviously disliked his coach.

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    • grunt
      Banned
      • Jul 2002
      • 9527

      #407
      Re: Mike Leach fired

      Originally posted by umd
      I played football and have had enough (2 minor/1 major) concussions or as the sometimes overly dramatic would say "brain injuries". All concussions are not created equal. Just because yours appeared to be serious and traumatic doesn't mean every one is the same.

      MKoz is 100% right it was not a shed or an electrical closet. It was a football garage and the visiting team's press room.

      As for how torturous it must have been, there were trainer/staff statements mixed in this thread that discount James' assertions. They state he was sitting, walking around, sleeping, and eating ice out of the machine.

      He was not chained to a wall in a medieval dungeon or handcuffed to a furnace in a musty electrical closet.

      Leach should have been smarter how he handled a malcontent like James w/ what trainers diagnosed as a minor concussion.

      But the drama queens need to give it up. It's not like the kid was tortured or water boarded.
      From 2009: An offensive lineman can’t do his job without “using his head,” one veteran says, but neuropathologists examining the brains of ex-N.F.L. players have found trauma-related degeneration, Malcolm Gladwell writes.


      Read this article.

      Concussions are brain injuries.

      Peace

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      • umd
        MVP
        • Aug 2002
        • 1970

        #408
        Re: Mike Leach fired

        Originally posted by grunt
        http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2..._fact_gladwell

        Read this article.

        Concussions are brain injuries.

        Peace
        lol. no kidding. Way to address everything else. Peace!
        Last edited by umd; 01-05-2010, 02:16 PM.

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        • grunt
          Banned
          • Jul 2002
          • 9527

          #409
          Re: Mike Leach fired

          Originally posted by umd
          lol. no kidding. Way to address everything else. Peace!
          I don't understand "way to adress everything else"?

          Peace

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          • jake44np
            Post Like a Champion!
            • Jul 2002
            • 9563

            #410
            Re: Mike Leach fired

            So where does Leach coach at next?
            I was listening to sports talk all day Monday around the Bloominton, IN area.
            Anyway there was talk that IU might contact Leach, thoughts???
            Kind of funny if they went after him after firing Knight years ago for being mean to his players.

            And I almost forgot:
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            • yankeesgiants
              I Drink Like A Champion!!
              • Feb 2007
              • 2477

              #411
              Re: Mike Leach fired

              Originally posted by jake44np
              So where does Leach coach at next?
              I was listening to sports talk all day Monday around the Bloominton, IN area.
              Anyway there was talk that IU might contact Leach, thoughts???
              Kind of funny if they went after him after firing Knight years ago for being mean to his players.

              And I almost forgot:
              PEACE
              After the Kalvin Sampson disaster, I dont think they go after another guy with compliance issues.
              I dont remember there names but they were allot of fun....

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              • The GIGGAS
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                • Mar 2003
                • 28474

                #412
                Re: Mike Leach fired

                I got a big ol' bump in store. The ESPN Ombudsman published an article that looked at ESPN's handling of the situation during the Alamo Bowl:

                http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/colum...don&id=4844048
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                • TheShizNo1
                  Asst 2 the Comm Manager
                  • Mar 2007
                  • 26341

                  #413
                  Re: Mike Leach fired

                  We already knew this. Besides a network (especially ESPN) with a motive, not shocking.
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                  **** ya


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                  • Solidice
                    Guns Up!
                    • Jul 2006
                    • 9941

                    #414
                    Re: Mike Leach fired

                    little bit more on the adam/craig james stuff.

                    http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4828405
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                    • Sting
                      Banned
                      • Nov 2004
                      • 3825

                      #415
                      Re: Mike Leach fired

                      Originally posted by Solidice
                      little bit more on the adam/craig james stuff.

                      http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4828405
                      Oh this is gonna be good. I hope Leach nails those sobs.

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                      • umd
                        MVP
                        • Aug 2002
                        • 1970

                        #416
                        Re: Mike Leach fired

                        it'll be interesting to see if Adam James gets any more play time w/ the new coaches.

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                        • yankeesgiants
                          I Drink Like A Champion!!
                          • Feb 2007
                          • 2477

                          #417
                          Re: Mike Leach fired

                          Originally posted by Solidice
                          little bit more on the adam/craig james stuff.

                          http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4828405
                          How is that different then Mitch Mustain and his parents at Arkansas? Except Houston Nutt said your free to get your kid and go elseware. That's how you handle it.
                          I dont remember there names but they were allot of fun....

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                          • Cebby
                            Banned
                            • Apr 2005
                            • 22327

                            #418
                            Re: Mike Leach fired

                            Originally posted by yankeesgiants
                            How is that different then Mitch Mustain and his parents at Arkansas?
                            Are you serious?

                            They're completely different situations.

                            The Springdale High School players and coach were basically benched by Houston Nutt after going 8-0. Nutt took over playcalling from Malzahn, benched Mustain, and by extension basically benched the WR and TE for what appears to be the reason that he wasn't getting enough credit for winning after he basically used Marlzahn, Mustain, and Williams to save his job. All three were gone the next year.

                            Adam James was some random walk on who used his daddy's ESPN job to get his coach fired.

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                            • SuperBowlNachos
                              All Star
                              • Jul 2004
                              • 10218

                              #419
                              Re: Mike Leach fired

                              Originally posted by Solidice
                              little bit more on the adam/craig james stuff.

                              http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4828405
                              ""Adam has been able to endure this because of the love of his teammates," Craig James said. "His teammates know who Adam is, they've seen him practice for three years and they love him. That's the comfort we have as a family ... he loves Texas Tech."


                              yet he wants to transfer out and go to SMU?

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                              • p_rushing
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • Feb 2004
                                • 14514

                                #420
                                Re: Mike Leach fired

                                Craig James threatened to sue TTU if they didn't investigate.

                                http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4865197

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