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  • Gibbz
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    • Aug 2005
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    #31
    Re: The case for Boise....

    Originally posted by BigDofBA
    That's not my point.

    Everyone was talking up Oregon, TCU, and Cincy before the bowls. No one was talking about Boise. Now Boise is the flavor of the week.

    Can anyone argue that Boise has a better resume than Alabama?

    This is the same crap we were going through with TCU a week ago.
    I've been talking up Boise since they manhandled Oregon in week 1.

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    • BigDofBA
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      • Aug 2002
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      #32
      Re: The case for Boise....

      Originally posted by tyler289
      I just love that an undefeated team finishes behind two one-loss teams. Only in the BCS.
      Boise deserves a shot but I'll never believe they were better than Floirda or Alabama.

      What if a MAC team had gone undefeated? Would they deserve to be ranked ahead of Florida and Texas?

      Boise beat two good teams all year.

      Bama beat two top 5 teams in their final two games and went undefeated in the SEC. I would like to see how Boise would hold up to a physical SEC schedule. They would be beat up by the end of the year.
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      • Gibbz
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        • Aug 2005
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        #33
        Re: The case for Boise....

        Originally posted by BigDofBA
        Boise deserves a shot but I'll never believe they were better than Floirda or Alabama.

        What if a MAC team had gone undefeated? Would they deserve to be ranked ahead of Florida and Texas?

        Boise beat two good teams all year.

        Bama beat two top 5 teams in their final two games and went undefeated in the SEC. I would like to see how Boise would hold up to a physical SEC schedule. They would be beat up by the end of the year.
        These are still just empty assumptions. Unless Bama and Boise played you would have no idea what the outcome would be.

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        • Hooe
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          • Aug 2002
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          #34
          Re: The case for Boise....

          Originally posted by BigDofBA
          What if a MAC team had gone undefeated? Would they deserve to be ranked ahead of Florida and Texas?
          They would deserve exactly what Boise deserves: a chance to play for the National Championship. Under the current system, hypothetical MAC team wouldn't get a shot, and Boise isn't getting a shot either. Which is sad.

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          • KG
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            • Sep 2005
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            #35
            Re: The case for Boise....

            Originally posted by legendkiller5
            I don't know whether to laugh or smh.
            I do both. You should try it.
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            • legendkiller5
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              • Jun 2008
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              #36
              Re: The case for Boise....

              Originally posted by kgx2thez
              I do both. You should try it.
              I don't think I can laugh. After hearing that complete bs that came out of Bill Hancock's mouth the other day, it leads me to believe we'll have this or some variation of this discussion for most of this decade, as we did the last 10 years.

              It's a broken record. It's a joke.
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              • Sportsforever
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                • Mar 2005
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                #37
                Re: The case for Boise....

                It's funny to read this thread. On one side you have folks saying it's just opinion that 'Bama is better than Boise St. since they didn't play each other, yet those same folks are making cases for why Boise is as good or better than 'Bama. Bottom line: none of us know.
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                • sars
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                  #38
                  Re: The case for Boise....

                  It's BS that Boise State got ranked 4th to end the season. I thought they would be #2 at best, #3 at worst.

                  Boise State can beat any given team any day, just ask the Sooners. As for the question if they can hold up to an SEC schedule? Probably not, they would probably have 3 or 4 losses, but THEY DON'T GET SEC COMMITS. They do all of this with 3 star players or below... with the exception of a couple of 4 star players. It's all about coaching. I would bet Chris Peterson can outcoach 95% of all college football coaches.

                  But can they beat Bama? I think they can, but we'll never know.

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                  • Husker_OS
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                    • Jun 2003
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                    #39
                    Re: The case for Boise....

                    The grass is always greener and the mid-major always gets the love.




                    People doubted the legitimacy of Boise on this website all year. But, as is the case normally, of course now since this website also loves controversy Boise must be put up on a pedastal.
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                    • Cebby
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                      • Apr 2005
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                      #40
                      Re: The case for Boise....

                      Originally posted by MassNole
                      You can't hold BSU's conference against them. Well SEC fans who don't believe any school outside of the conference can, but no one else can. You cannot definitively say Bama was better than Boise.
                      And this is where you now admit that Marshall deserved the 1999 championship

                      And for the whole "remember the last time Alabama played an undefeated mid major", does anyone remember the last 3 times Boise has played an SEC team?

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                      • Cusefan
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                        • Oct 2003
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                        #41
                        Re: The case for Boise....

                        Originally posted by Sportsforever
                        It's funny to read this thread. On one side you have folks saying it's just opinion that 'Bama is better than Boise St. since they didn't play each other, yet those same folks are making cases for why Boise is as good or better than 'Bama. Bottom line: none of us know.
                        I wouldn't say Boise is better than 'Bama but whose to say they are not? They at least deserve a shot at the title, they earned it
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                        • ehh
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                          • Mar 2003
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                          #42
                          Re: The case for Boise....

                          Bama's resume may be better but Boise certainly should have a 50/50 split. If they don't then everyone who claims the college football's regular season is so important and that every game, every weekend is a playoff are 100% wrong. Boise State did not play a single meaningful game this year, none of them mattered because no matter what they did they were not going to earn a share of the national title. Every game they played was inconsequential.
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                          • jeremym480
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                            #43
                            Re: The case for Boise....

                            Originally posted by Cusefan
                            Please do not state your opinion as a fact. You cannot say that Bama is better than Boise because they have not played. Boise played quality opponents this year and went undefeated and still that was not enough to get to the national championship. If anything this is just a testament that the BCS is broken, nothing more, nothing less.
                            One could say that this would be the perfect year for an "plus 1 system".

                            However, if it were a four game tourney, more than likely, the BCS would have paired Texas & TCU and Bama & Boise. My prediction would be that we would end up with the same two teams in the Championship game with the exact same result.

                            disclaimer: my prediction is based on my opinion alone and shall not be taken as fact. It is simply my opinion based on the games that I have watched this season and how the bowl season played out. The only fact is that we will never know.
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                            • mudman
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                              • Sep 2003
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                              #44
                              Re: The case for Boise....

                              This is pretty simple and people are complicating the hell out of it.

                              It is a FACT that we'll never know if Boise State could beat Alabama. All we have to go on are the games that were played this year and based on those games we form our opinions of what we think would happen.

                              Now, based on what happened throughout the course of this season, I don't believe that ANYBODY can support the statement "Boise State deserves a split NC" or "Boise State would beat Alabama".

                              There's just nothing to support that, at all. Alabama played a much tougher schedule and has far superior athletes. Why would anybody think Boise State could beat them?

                              Anybody saying BSU deserves a split NC is also saying that Alabama deserves to have half of theirs taken away. Really? Why? Because they're both undefeated? That's lame. That's basically saying that what BSU did this year is equal to what Alabama did this year when, fact is, that's not true. BSU did not accomplish what Alabama did this year and because of that they don't deserve half of what Alabama got.

                              I wish we had a playoff system because I do believe that BSU does deserve the chance to prove me and everybody like me wrong but that isn't the case right now.

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                              • Happy29
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                                • Jan 2006
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                                #45
                                Re: The case for Boise....

                                Pull out NCAA Football 2010 sim 100 games between Bama and Boise and let the winner be your National Champ. I'll bet 100 bucks and my left nut Bama wins 9 times out of 10
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