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  • buckeye02
    MVP
    • Jul 2009
    • 4148

    #91
    Re: How would the history of CFB have changed if..........?

    What if PI wasn't called in the 03 national championship game vs Miami?

    I think the fans would change their perception of Tressel more than anything.
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    • OSUFan_88
      Outback Jesus
      • Jul 2004
      • 25642

      #92
      Re: How would the history of CFB have changed if..........?

      Originally posted by buckeye02
      What if PI wasn't called in the 03 national championship game vs Miami?

      I think the fans would change their perception of Tressel more than anything.
      Are we assuming that they aren't calling holding either?
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      • Scott812313
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        • Jun 2009
        • 1877

        #93
        Re: How would the history of CFB have changed if..........?

        Originally posted by OSUFan_88
        Are we assuming that they aren't calling holding either?
        We're assuming that the right (no) call would be made, on the (should have been) last play, of the national championship game. That play/call still makes me sick all these years later. To just flat out steal a game from those kids....
        "In the morning he would read the Bible with another coach. Then, in the afternoon, he would go out and cheat kids who had probably saved up money from mowing lawns to buy those raffle tickets. That's Jim Tressel."

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        • buckeye02
          MVP
          • Jul 2009
          • 4148

          #94
          Re: How would the history of CFB have changed if..........?

          Originally posted by OSUFan_88
          Are we assuming that they aren't calling holding either?
          Well of course
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          • Sportsbuck
            The Predator
            • Jul 2006
            • 4326

            #95
            Re: How would the history of CFB have changed if..........?

            Originally posted by TheShizNo1
            I agree. Michigan had too many problems that year. I say maybe they beat ND and Purdue that year, but that's about it.

            As for hOSU, I've said Pryor has only won 2 games by himself; The Rose Bowl (which I think was more of Tressell's game-planning), and Iowa last season.
            In all honesty, for as much hype as Pryor got for that Rose Bowl, and granted he had a decent game, it wasn't as great of a performance as people are making it out to be. He got very lucky that Jake Ballard came down with a pass that he just kind of threw up for grabs.

            That was TP's best game as a Buckeye, but thats not really saying much.

            You wanna know why we were so good in late October/November under Tressel, especially during the TP era? It was usually the time they figured out Pryor couldn't carry the offense and they turned to a power running game and we ran people off the field.

            I honestly can't think of a single game (Outside of the likes of Indiana, Ohio, etc.) that Pryor turned in a 'great' performance. He's had games where he put up nice stats (The U, Sugar Bowl) but in those games he also made a lot of stupid decisions, he got very lucky that Miami's DB's couldn't catch a cold otherwise he might have set the Ohio Stadium record for interceptions.

            At the end of the day though, however unorthadox of an approach he had, he did what Tressel wanted him to do the majority of the time. He kept the chains rolling with his feet and his arm. The defense and the running game are supposed to win it for you, the quarterback just tries not to lose it, at least according to Tresselball at its finest.
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            • Psyblast
              2023 National Champions
              • Jun 2003
              • 42582

              #96
              Re: How would the history of CFB have changed if..........?

              Quite a few non-starters in this thread.

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              • buckeye02
                MVP
                • Jul 2009
                • 4148

                #97
                Re: How would the history of CFB have changed if..........?

                Originally posted by sportsbuck
                In all honesty, for as much hype as Pryor got for that Rose Bowl, and granted he had a decent game, it wasn't as great of a performance as people are making it out to be. He got very lucky that Jake Ballard came down with a pass that he just kind of threw up for grabs.

                That was TP's best game as a Buckeye, but thats not really saying much.

                You wanna know why we were so good in late October/November under Tressel, especially during the TP era? It was usually the time they figured out Pryor couldn't carry the offense and they turned to a power running game and we ran people off the field.

                I honestly can't think of a single game (Outside of the likes of Indiana, Ohio, etc.) that Pryor turned in a 'great' performance. He's had games where he put up nice stats (The U, Sugar Bowl) but in those games he also made a lot of stupid decisions, he got very lucky that Miami's DB's couldn't catch a cold otherwise he might have set the Ohio Stadium record for interceptions.

                At the end of the day though, however unorthadox of an approach he had, he did what Tressel wanted him to do the majority of the time. He kept the chains rolling with his feet and his arm. The defense and the running game are supposed to win it for you, the quarterback just tries not to lose it, at least according to Tresselball at its finest.
                Pryor's career best is equal to Troy Smith's average game. Smith's best 2 games came both against Michigan.
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                • RebelHog
                  MVP
                  • Jun 2009
                  • 1022

                  #98
                  Re: How would the history of CFB have changed if..........?

                  The biggest what if I can think of is this one:

                  What if in 1969 in the Shootout of the Century, #1Texas vs #2 Arkansas , the play Coach Royal called on the 4th down, failed and Arkansas would've ran the clock out? President Nixon from Texas wouldn't have been very happy!

                  It would've launched Arkansas to it's Second National title in the 1960s, and probably would've kept Broyles in the game longer, and Arkansas would certify it's place as a college football powerhouse.

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                  • buckeye02
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                    • Jul 2009
                    • 4148

                    #99
                    Re: How would the history of CFB have changed if..........?

                    What if Clint Stoerner didn't fumble against Tennessee in the SEC championship game?
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                    • OSUFan_88
                      Outback Jesus
                      • Jul 2004
                      • 25642

                      #100
                      Re: How would the history of CFB have changed if..........?

                      Originally posted by Scott812313
                      We're assuming that the right (no) call would be made, on the (should have been) last play, of the national championship game. That play/call still makes me sick all these years later. To just flat out steal a game from those kids....
                      You are right, there was no call that should have been made.

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                      • TheShizNo1
                        Asst 2 the Comm Manager
                        • Mar 2007
                        • 26341

                        #101
                        Originally posted by OSUFan_88
                        You are right, there was no call that should have been made.

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                        I have never seen that! That one picture changes my whole perspective on that play!
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                        • Sportsbuck
                          The Predator
                          • Jul 2006
                          • 4326

                          #102
                          Re: How would the history of CFB have changed if..........?

                          Originally posted by OSUFan_88
                          You are right, there was no call that should have been made.

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                          It's not even worth arguing anymore... especially not with that guy.
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                          • superjames1992
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Jun 2007
                            • 31361

                            #103
                            Re: How would the history of CFB have changed if..........?

                            Originally posted by mtoo22
                            Let me preface that with this was one of the worst nights of my life. It was my birthday...needless to say....the rest is history..
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                            • buckeye02
                              MVP
                              • Jul 2009
                              • 4148

                              #104
                              Re: How would the history of CFB have changed if..........?

                              Originally posted by sportsbuck
                              It's not even worth arguing anymore... especially not with that guy.
                              Not to mention the defensive holding call in the 4th quarter that didn't allow us to run out the clock. If that penalty is called Roscoe Parrish doesn't have that big punt return, and we don't have an OT.
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                              • Wildcats302
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                                • May 2011
                                • 1046

                                #105
                                Re: How would the history of CFB have changed if..........?

                                Miami had the ball 1st and Goal at the 2 with the better team...and they failed to score all 4 plays. I did not like the call on Sharpe but as the O$U fans have said, there were other calls that went against them in the game earlier. Miami came in thinking they could just show up and dominate...they were wrong. They should have still won, but did not make the plays to do in the 2OT. 4th and 14 is another play that comes to mind...when the Buckeyes somehow converted it against a great Miami pass D...Miami's O and D came up short in key situations again and again in that game.

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