Conference Re-Alignment Thread Part Who Knows

[tarheelguy4736]

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USF has next to no standards when it comes to academia.

Yea no way USF is joining the ACC. One of the major components of joining the ACC is academics. I mean just look at the schools in the conference as far as academics: UNC, Duke, Wake Forest, NC State, BC, and now Pitt and Syracuse. I would love for UCONN to join the ACC and make this an even better basketball conference.

[Tovarich]

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I figured they weren't great, that's why I said the ACC may just stick at 14. Either way, I'm thinking seriously about a merger if Missouri leaves. The Big East can't maintain BCS status I wouldn't think if their replacements for Syracuse, TCU, Pitt and possibly West Virginia if they go to the Big 12 are East Carolina, Central Florida, Navy and Air Force. The Big 12 is still ok with Oklahoma and Texas, but there aren't many better options for them than to get some of the Big East schools anyway.

[He1nousOne1]

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Yeah I agree on the Big East. Of course, even if the Big East implodes I'm not sure that we would get ND, but I suppose the B1G sees them as the only school that would move the pile.

I don't think UT is an option for the Big Ten. Texas will never give up the Longhorn Network, and the Big Ten will never compromise the Big Ten Network or equal revenue sharing (these factors aside from the obvious geographic mis-match).

Yeah the likelihood of Texas getting into the B1G isn't all that likely but if both sides truly wanted it to happen we would all be "surprised" at how quickly an agreement could be made.

I don't know where ND would go between the ACC and the B1G. ACC for identity, B1G for money. The thing is though they are a major piece of the puzzle keeping things from free falling into an avalanche.

By that logic Kentucky shouldnt be in the SEC either. Lol.

In my opinion Kentucky would be better off in the B1G, unfortunately they don't make the grade so they might as well coat the bottom of the SEC barrel and live off of the healthy scraps thrown their way.

Yea, it seems at this rate they'll just let the conference be picked apart and start over with C-USA, MAC and D-1AA schools because no one is taking charge to prevent all this.

Thinking about it a little more, I don't see Army/Navy joining a league to be honest.. And imo, WVU is a better fit in the B1G than the SEC if they are hell bent on moving. As far as #14 for the SEC, I think they will wait on a big player - Florida St. or VT - the $20 million buyout is steep though.

Other possibles for the Big East would be Southern Miss, Marshall, Houston and SMU.

B1G is sitting pretty at 12 with the most options - Mizzou begging, KU/ISU, the remaining East Coast teams, Maryland/Virginia (although the buyout hurts those chances), WVU based on geography and Notre Dame (who knows).

Also, lots of people are forgetting the MWC - what if they pick up SMU, Houston & Tulsa? Maybe they get the AQ bid because that conference would be deep.

Dominoes.

The Florida/Georgia/South Carolina gang will keep Clemson, Florida State and Georgia Tech out of the SEC. Those teams might make the most sense competition wise for the SEC but I highly doubt it will ever happen. Virginia Tech's only chance at the SEC is if Virginia gets an invite from the B1G, then I doubt the State Legislature would step in.

Maryland or Virginia in my opinion is a great grab for the B1G.

It's still 75% to get in right? Do the other schools care if Boston College loses out on a little bit of the Connecticut market? If they do, then Rutgers and South Florida are good additions. The Academic standard of the ACC may just keep them where they're at. I don't know much about South Florida academics. Either way, the Big 12-Big East merger should be back on the table and being given serious thought.

Just like the Florida/Georgia/South Carolina alliance in the SEC, I'm sure Boston College and some other schools have made some type of similiar pact. I bet with newly acquired Syracuse in the ACC that they would go along with their Rival Boston College to keep UConn out. Add one more institution to that little alliance within the ACC and consider UConn having no chance ever at joining the ACC.

[He1nousOne1]

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http://brett-mcmurphy.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/29532522/32536916

TCU to the Big12 it seems. One more nail in the Big East coffin.

[superjames1992]

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So, supposedly Missouri did not get the votes to get into the SEC? I am not sure if that is true, though. So much false news around...

[TripleCrown9]

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http://brett-mcmurphy.blogs.cbssport...32522/32536916

TCU to the Big12 it seems. One more nail in the Big East coffin.

Brought up on Page 190.

[He1nousOne1]

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Brought up on Page 190.

thanks. Its pretty big news and not much was said on earlier pages about it so would be easy for folks to skip. But thanks for making sure folks see it the second time around.

[dickey1331]

Brought up on Page 190.

190? We are on page 97


Do you really care where I sent this from?

[Redacted01]

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190? We are on page 97


Do you really care where I sent this from?

Actually page 49, but I was the first to mention it and post a link on it. Seemed it went overlooked...

[Tovarich]

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It would seem odd to me that there's a block of schools willing to block UConn. The SEC teams have a pact not to expand to current states. This isn't really the same with BC and UConn, but the ACC also doesn't have the power to be as picky as the SEC does. Let's call the ACC what it is, a basketball conference. UConn is the biggest realistic addition you could make. That would seem far more important to me than Boston College being unhappy about a couple of people in Connecticut not watching them anymore. The Boston market is really going to tune into UConn instead of BC now? Whether UConn is in the Big East or the ACC, the market competition doesn't really change. People are tuning in to watch UConn hoops whether they're playing Maryland or Duke or Georgetown or Providence. The football market wouldn't seem to change much to me. I have to think UConn gets in IF the ACC does indeed want to go to 16. It's hard to say if they do, I just assumed they did because 14 just seems strange. It seemed logical to think it was just a bridge to get to 16. UConn and Rutgers aren't Harvard, but they're not West Virginia. Academically, they should be up to the ACC's standards.

[He1nousOne1]

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Actually page 49, but I was the first to mention it and post a link on it. Seemed it went overlooked...

Its cool that you did, I guess if you want props then there ya go but some of us perhaps were working or doing other things and quite frankly it was barely talked about so its easily overlooked.

It IS the realignment thread and considering everything else being talked about was just possible stuff I really dont see what the dudes issue was with seeing an ACTUAL realignment being brought up twice.....on the same day that it actually happened.

Oh the horror right?

[Tovarich]

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So, supposedly Missouri did not get the votes to get into the SEC? I am not sure if that is true, though. So much false news around...

They said West Virginia didn't get the votes a few weeks ago either. A few AD's/Presidents have come out and said the SEC is going to go to 14. If not West Virginia or Missouri, then who? The ACC seems untouchable with a now 20M buyout. There aren't many other good options in the south. They can't vote against both Missouri and West Virginia unless they think they're getting Oklahoma or Texas. So I wouldn't assume Missouri was voted against. If Oklahoma and Texas are both gutting it out in the Big 12-3, then Missouri is the best option with West Virginia being a good Plan B.

[TheRegan]

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Can someone please tell how the heck academics and football are related?

[Tovarich]

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Can someone please tell how the heck academics and football are related?

Conference changes don't revolve around football entirely. They can be a factor of course, just like cultural and academic compatibility. In the case of the Big 10, PAC and ACC, Academics are usually the first requirement to join the conference. Conferences exist for purposes beyond who will fill out your football schedule. Some conferences academics are not a big deal, it's about football, or TV contract money etc and academics come further down the list. Lots of stuff comes into play that has little to do with football. The PAC for example requires prospective members to be a research institution. Research grant money DWARFS athletic money. Simply, it's just not all about football.

[DonkeyJote]

Schools like to be associated with good academic schools. Oregon's academic reputation is certainly helped by being associated with Washington, Berkely, UCLA, USC, and Stanford.

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