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  • He1nousOne1
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    • Jun 2011
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    #2341
    Re: Conference Re-Alignment Thread Part Who Knows

    Originally posted by superjames1992
    It sure stretches the meaning of "conference", which is why I hate the idea of superconferences.
    Which is why an NCAA rule change allowing four divisions per conference is damn near inevitable in my opinion. Now that we have the ACC and SEC having gone over the 2 division sweet spot of 12 teams it is just a matter of time. We have also seen the PAC make public their discussions of how four divisions might have worked in order to add the Texoma-4.

    Once conferences go over 12 teams it becomes less and less like a conference of teams that plays each other and more and more like a conference that simply uses each others names to boost their own.

    In a four division set up you can have 16 teams and play every team twice in a four year period or you can have protected rivalries between the divisions and play every team within three years.

    It also gives a conference a chance to have a four team conference playoff. A simple rule change will save conferences.....and at the same time destroy some.

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    • lonewolf371
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      • Aug 2009
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      #2342
      Re: Conference Re-Alignment Thread Part Who Knows

      Maybe the NCAA could put a cap on the number of teams in a conference. The only way this madness will stop is if all the big universities get together and make a collective effort to settle things down.
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      • He1nousOne1
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        • Jun 2011
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        #2343
        Re: Conference Re-Alignment Thread Part Who Knows

        For the PAC, B1G and SEC this is all working out wonderfully. The ACC might be worried about the future but they can hardly say that right now it isn't working in their favor too. That is a massive majority of the "power" that is comfortable.

        Also with MWC and CUSA talking about going larger, any move now to cap might be seen as an effort to kneecap those conferences from becoming more relevant and that could end in litigation.

        Personally I wouldn't mind seeing a 16 team cap put in place though.

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        • fsquid
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          • Jul 2002
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          #2344
          Re: Conference Re-Alignment Thread Part Who Knows

          depends what your definition of "conference" is. Mine is simply a confederation of schools that band together to sell a collective TV and licensing fees.

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          • DonkeyJote
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            • Jul 2003
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            #2345
            Re: Conference Re-Alignment Thread Part Who Knows

            Originally posted by lonewolf371
            Maybe the NCAA could put a cap on the number of teams in a conference. The only way this madness will stop is if all the big universities get together and make a collective effort to settle things down.
            You're assuming the NCAA has real power. Any power the NCAA has is given to them by the schools and conferences. They aren't going to agree to a cap. If the NCAA starts making rulings such as this, you are going to see the big conferences split off as people have feared.

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            • Bondgirl0072
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              #2346
              Re: Conference Re-Alignment Thread Part Who Knows

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              • jonpt
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                • Dec 2002
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                #2347
                Re: Conference Re-Alignment Thread Part Who Knows

                Originally posted by DonkeyJote
                You're assuming the NCAA has real power. Any power the NCAA has is given to them by the schools and conferences. They aren't going to agree to a cap. If the NCAA starts making rulings such as this, you are going to see the big conferences split off as people have feared.
                Exactly...I wouldn't be that surprised if within 10-20 years you see 4 super conferences form and split away from the NCAA. Don't know if that would be good or bad for the sport. At least then we might get a playoff.
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                • superjames1992
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                  • Jun 2007
                  • 31382

                  #2348
                  Re: Conference Re-Alignment Thread Part Who Knows

                  Originally posted by jonpt
                  Exactly...I wouldn't be that surprised if within 10-20 years you see 4 super conferences form and split away from the NCAA. Don't know if that would be good or bad for the sport. At least then we might get a playoff.
                  It would be awful as it would ruin every other collegiate sport in the country.
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                  • Perfect Zero
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                    #2349
                    Re: Conference Re-Alignment Thread Part Who Knows

                    Originally posted by jonpt
                    Exactly...I wouldn't be that surprised if within 10-20 years you see 4 super conferences form and split away from the NCAA. Don't know if that would be good or bad for the sport. At least then we might get a playoff.
                    I've thought about that for a couple of years now. The NCAA is a shell organization; has been since its inception. If the biggest sixty-four teams split from it, then they have the ability to control one of the biggest television contracts in history. Not only that, but they could change everything that we've come to know in college football. Rivalries, bowl games, the whole lot will be sacrificed for the big bucks.

                    And honestly, I'm kinda rooting for that.
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                    • coogrfan
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                      • Jul 2002
                      • 15645

                      #2350
                      Re: Conference Re-Alignment Thread Part Who Knows

                      Originally posted by Perfect Zero
                      I've thought about that for a couple of years now. The NCAA is a shell organization; has been since its inception. If the biggest sixty-four teams split from it, then they have the ability to control one of the biggest television contracts in history. Not only that, but they could change everything that we've come to know in college football. Rivalries, bowl games, the whole lot will be sacrificed for the big bucks.

                      And honestly, I'm kinda rooting for that.
                      What you're describing would be nothing more than minor league pro football. No thanks.
                      Last edited by coogrfan; 11-09-2011, 11:58 AM.

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                      • Maxattax3
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                        • Aug 2008
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                        #2351
                        Re: Conference Re-Alignment Thread Part Who Knows

                        Originally posted by coogrfan
                        What you're describing would be nothing more than minor league pro football. No thanks.
                        that is what we have now except (most of) the athletes dont get paid. D-1 CFB is a free NFL d-league.

                        The NFL should create a d-league. let kids that want to go to the NFL play there, and let student-athletes be student athletes. the level of play would suffer, but at least it would be what it is made out to be. of course, if youre the NFL why pay for what you get for free.
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                        • DonkeyJote
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                          • Jul 2003
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                          #2352
                          Originally posted by Maxattax3
                          that is what we have now except (most of) the athletes dont get paid. D-1 CFB is a free NFL d-league.

                          The NFL should create a d-league. let kids that want to go to the NFL play there, and let student-athletes be student athletes. the level of play would suffer, but at least it would be what it is made out to be. of course, if youre the NFL why pay for what you get for free.
                          And how would that benefit anybody? The nfl would have to pay for that league, and the NCAA would lose money

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                          • Maxattax3
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                            #2353
                            Re: Conference Re-Alignment Thread Part Who Knows

                            Originally posted by DonkeyJote
                            And how would that benefit anybody? The nfl would have to pay for that league, and the NCAA would lose money

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                            It wouldnt benefit anyone from a money standpoint, but CFB wouldnt have to lie and hide behind this student-athlete facade. The simple solution is to pay college players. I think this year and conference realignment has pretty much killed the romance of college football. Obviously tradition, academics, and non-football sports dont mean anything. Its all about TV money from football. Might as well just call it what it is (NFL D-league) and pay the players. But Im getting off-topic here.
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                            • superjames1992
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                              • Jun 2007
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                              #2354
                              Re: Conference Re-Alignment Thread Part Who Knows

                              Originally posted by Maxattax3
                              It wouldnt benefit anyone from a money standpoint, but CFB wouldnt have to lie and hide behind this student-athlete facade. The simple solution is to pay college players. I think this year and conference realignment has pretty much killed the romance of college football. Obviously tradition, academics, and non-football sports dont mean anything. Its all about TV money from football. Might as well just call it what it is (NFL D-league) and pay the players. But Im getting off-topic here.
                              Not ALL football players are just there to go to the NFL. True, most of the guys going to the Alabamas and LSUs of the world are, but that doesn't hold true for everyone, especially once you drop to the FCS level and lower.

                              The idea that 60-80 schools split away from the NCAA would completely ruin college basketball for me and I would hate that as I like it just as much as football.
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                              • LionsFanNJ
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                                #2355
                                Actually I would hate it more since it effects the Basketball landscape. Oh well at least there's still a real champion when its all said and done in college basketball.
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