Conference Re-Alignment Thread Part Who Knows

[cdawg44]

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Looks like ODU is getting cold feet about joining C-USA. They better hop on while the gettin is good man. Cause I know App State would LOVE to have their spot

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefoot...urphy/18954539.

BTW, who is left in the WAC? I know Dever and Seattle are the non-football members. And Texas State, UTSA, SJSU, Utah state, La Tech, are all gone now.

[cdawg44]

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UT-Arlington gone to Sun Belt... and the beat goes on. LOL.

http://espn.go.com/dallas/ncf/story/_/id/7891047/texas-arlington-mavericks-moving-sun-belt-source-says

[Vaporub83]

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Who in the Mountain West is good? I'd say CUSA is the best non AQ conference.


Do you really care where I sent this from?

Where did the Mountain West come from? If I had to answer that question though I would say no one really. Nevada and Fresno are the best but that's not saying much. I just feel that if you are not in an AQ conference it doesn't make sense to move into another non AQ conference. In the grand scheme of things there isn't much benefit.

[TDenverFan]

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Where did the Mountain West come from? If I had to answer that question though I would say no one really. Nevada and Fresno are the best but that's not saying much. I just feel that if you are not in an AQ conference it doesn't make sense to move into another non AQ conference. In the grand scheme of things there isn't much benefit.

Fresno, Hawaii, Nevada, and AFA are the best teams.

I think a 12 team Conference in the West like this would be a pretty solid (Possibly AQ) conference.

Rocky Mountain Conference
East
Hawaii (Football only), Denver (Non-Football)
San Diego State
Fresno State
Nevada
Boise State
UNLV

West
Houston
SMU
Tulsa
Colorado State
Air Force
BYU

Granted, SDSU and BOise would have to be lured out of the Big East, but that would not be too difficult, IMO. Major cut down on travel, playoff would make this about equal to the East, major improvement for non-football sports, and Boise may not go to the East anyway (If the WAC dissolves, they would have no home for non-football sports besides an awful Big West).

Plus, the divisions are fairly balanced. Boise, SDSU, and Fresno would lead the east, while BYU, Houston, and Air Force would lead the west.

Sorry for the rambly post.

[mercalnd]

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Fresno, Hawaii, Nevada, and AFA are the best teams.

I think a 12 team Conference in the West like this would be a pretty solid (Possibly AQ) conference.

Rocky Mountain Conference
East
Hawaii (Football only), Denver (Non-Football)
San Diego State
Fresno State
Nevada
Boise State
UNLV

West
Houston
SMU
Tulsa
Colorado State
Air Force
BYU

Granted, SDSU and BOise would have to be lured out of the Big East, but that would not be too difficult, IMO. Major cut down on travel, playoff would make this about equal to the East, major improvement for non-football sports, and Boise may not go to the East anyway (If the WAC dissolves, they would have no home for non-football sports besides an awful Big West).

Plus, the divisions are fairly balanced. Boise, SDSU, and Fresno would lead the east, while BYU, Houston, and Air Force would lead the west.

Sorry for the rambly post.

For your scenario to happen, Houston and SMU would also have to be lured out of the Big East and BYU would have to agree to join back as they've been independent since last year.

[TracerBullet]

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BTW, who is left in the WAC? I know Dever and Seattle are the non-football members. And Texas State, UTSA, SJSU, Utah state, La Tech, are all gone now.

Idaho and NMSU. That's all.


Crazy that at least 31 schools will have changed conferences since 2010.

[dickey1331]

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Clemson and FSU to the Big 12?

http://www.eerinsider.com/2012-artic...g-the-acc.html

http://bloguin.com/runthefloor/2012-articles/may/clemson-and-florida-state-to-the-big-12-a-hoops-perspective.html

http://www.bcinterruption.com/2012/2/8/2784645/conference-realignment-big-12-expansion-rumors-florida-state-clemson

http://leatherhelmetblog.com/2012-ar...g12-in-13.html

[simgamer0005]

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Clemson and FSU to the Big 12?

oy...and we fall deeper into bizarro world...

[TDenverFan]

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For your scenario to happen, Houston and SMU would also have to be lured out of the Big East and BYU would have to agree to join back as they've been independent since last year.

I think this conference would be stronger than the Big East. Plus, BYU kinda failed as an independent.

They had 10 wins, but yet received virtually no national attention.

[cflash22]

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I think this conference would be stronger than the Big East. Plus, BYU kinda failed as an independent.

They had 10 wins, but yet received virtually no national attention.

Including their bowl game, BYU had 11 nationally televised games on ESPN, ESPNU and ESPN2, any school would kill for that. BYU is doing pretty good as an independent.

[T-Moar]

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With respect, you're wrong.

Texas is now, and has always been, orders of magnitude more powerful and influential than the GT's or SC's of the world. As a result the actions of UT have repercussions that are felt throught the cfb landscape. When SC jumped to the SEC the ACC continued to exist; when UT moved to what became the Big 12 the SWC was doomed. Almost a century of history and tradition was kicked to the curb for no other reason than the fact than the folks at one school decided it was in their own best interests to do so.

UT is more to blame for the current state of cfb than anyone else because they were the first of the truly big time programs to abandon longtime regional associations in search of a bigger payday. They, in effect, set in motion the chain of events that may well lead to the long predicted "super conferences" setting themselves up as separate entity apart from the rest of cfb.

Let's be realistic here. It's kind of ridiculous to blame the current realignment frenzy on something that happened a decade and a half before this started. Yes, UT's move played a large part in the destruction of the SWC, but it was no less sensical of a move than Arkansas to the SEC, especially when they brought the rest of the relevant portion of the conference with them.

What you're failing to remember when blaming Texas for all of this is that the SWC had problems that were likely to destroy the conference anyway, that had nothing to do with the money. IIRC, by 1994, the only programs NOT on probation were Baylor and Rice. That doesn't make for a good, stable conference. Basically, to blame UT is to completely ignore the fact that Arkansas was once part of the SWC, and that the SWC wasn't really stable.

[coogrfan]

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Let's be realistic here. It's kind of ridiculous to blame the current realignment frenzy on something that happened a decade and a half before this started. Yes, UT's move played a large part in the destruction of the SWC, but it was no less sensical of a move than Arkansas to the SEC, especially when they brought the rest of the relevant portion of the conference with them.

What you're failing to remember when blaming Texas for all of this is that the SWC had problems that were likely to destroy the conference anyway, that had nothing to do with the money. IIRC, by 1994, the only programs NOT on probation were Baylor and Rice. That doesn't make for a good, stable conference. Basically, to blame UT is to completely ignore the fact that Arkansas was once part of the SWC, and that the SWC wasn't really stable.

Arky left for the SEC, and the SWC soldiered on. UT departs, and the conference is immediately rendered null and void.

Hypothetical question - if the rumors a couple years ago of UT to the Pac-whatever had proved true, do you think there is even the slightest chance the Big XII would still exist?

[T-Moar]

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Arky left for the SEC, and the SWC soldiered on. UT departs, and the conference is immediately rendered null and void.

Hypothetical question - if the rumors a couple years ago of UT to the Pac-whatever had proved true, do you think there is even the slightest chance the Big XII would still exist?

No, but UT to the Pac-12, according to the rumors, would have also carried Tech, OU, and Okie State with it. After Nebraska and Mizzou to the Big Ten, and A&M to the SEC, had the rumors been true, the Big XII would have been left with 5 teams, and would probably have been in the same position the WAC is in now.

I'm not saying that UT doesn't carry some clout in realignment talks - they do. They do not, however, carry enough influence that I can force myself to believe that some action that they took almost 20 years ago is having domino effects that really hadn't been felt up until the past few years.

[gordogg24p]

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Clemson and FSU to the Big 12?

In terms of football competitiveness, I would love this. They could make it work, given that they've already got West Virginia. It would also probably require Louisville and Cincy to join the Big 12 to make the geographic separation seem less horrible.

That, or pray that Bowlsby is well versed in black magic and pulls in Notre Dame by some clairvoyance.

[caasoccer]

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OU and Texas don't want a conference title game