Conference Re-Alignment Thread Part Who Knows

[TDenverFan]

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http://collegesportsinfo.com/conference-realignment-grid/

This is about the perfect website for all realignment. It has every conference, even the small ones and D2 and D3. It says which times are moving and who might move.

[simgamer0005]

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They did kind of start things, didn't they? Personally, I'd put more blame on the BCS and also the Big 10 conference. I honestly hate all of this conference shuffling. Absolutely hate it. It's about $$$. That's it. Nothing more. I guess that's kind of always been a big reason, or the reason, why schools change conferences but it's gotten beyond ridiculous.

you're absolutely right. most people secretly hate it they just don't want to admit it. it has gotten beyond ridiculous, to the point where it is desensitizing and meaningless. Personally, it's to the point where college sports especially football mean nothing to me anymore. used to love it. it's beyond sad to see what it has turned into. conferences don't mean anything anymore. they used to represent tradition, each conference used to have a style and a purpose to it. now it's like a game of musical chairs.

No, this wave started with Colorado and Nebraska.

that's the way i see it too. when Nebraska left the BigXII, and joined the BigTen, when the BigTen became the B1G, when the BigTen had 12 teams and the BigXII had 10 teams, that's what broke the camel's back.

I blame it on Davy Crockett. It's a little-known fact that right before he perished in the Battle of the Alamo, he yelled, "Screw the Southwest Conference, Texas must join the Big 8!"

Davy...Davy Crockett, King of the Wild Frontier!

[T-Moar]

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If you want to blame one institution for this, it has to be the University of Texas. Their decision to (in effect) kill the SWC by defecting to the Big 8 in the mid 90's was the move that let the genie out of the bottle. It set in motion a chain of events that has permanently altered the cfb landscape.

If you're going to blame UT for the status quo, you might as well blame Georgia Tech for leaving the SEC for the ACC or South Carolina for doing the opposite. I hate U. Texas as much as anybody, but I don't think that had anything to do with the current realignment wave that we're seeing right now. Honestly, I have to say that the institution to blame, if anybody, is the BCS. The BCS has created a scramble to get into the "AQ" conferences so that the involved teams can get into contention for a BCS game, and receive the payouts involved. This has led to other conferences such as the MWC, C-USA, and the WAC getting swallowed up. It's ridiculous, and I blame the BCS entirely.

[Vaporub83]

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CUSA is one of the better non BCS conferences the only problem is they are losing most of there good teams.

Who in Conference USA is a team you would consider good. This is what I don't understand about moving conferences before you are a good/great team. The best thing for a football program is to stand pat until you dominate your competition. Think Boise State they stayed in the WAC started winning games, now they get better recruits, bigger market share and they get national press.

Yes..


Although comparing the belt to CUSA as equally weak is a substantial stretch.

Here are my top 3 reasons why the move is good without even discussing team quality.

1. Regional opponents will help ticket sales
2. Better marquee names will help ticket sales
3. Better conference will bring in better OOC opponent for a home game.

Yes I'm all for taking out lumps if it gets us out of the belt and gives us a chance to make long term strides out the gate.

It is funny you say regional opponents when they are still playing people in the same states as in the Sun Belt. As a matter of fact the team that was furthest away is going with them.

No one is marquee in CUSA.

Your 3 reasons can't be discussed without discussing team quality. People don't go to games if the home team always loses. OOC team won't come to your stadium if you are garbage. The Sun Belt has had a couple of Big 12 teams come visit.

[capn_razzamataz]

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Who in Conference USA is a team you would consider good.

ECU. You could possibly make arguments for Southern Miss and UCF, too.

[dickey1331]

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Who in Conference USA is a team you would consider good. This is what I don't understand about moving conferences before you are a good/great team. The best thing for a football program is to stand pat until you dominate your competition. Think Boise State they stayed in the WAC started winning games, now they get better recruits, bigger market share and they get national press.

For CUSA East Carolina, Houston, SMU, Southern Miss, Tulsa, UCF are all good teams. They may not be top AQ talent but they are some of the better non AQ teams.

CUSA was also 4-1 in the past bowl season and good enough for Houston, Memphis, SMU and UCF to move to AQ status.

[DonkeyJote]

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There's also the still present C-USA/MWC "alliance" which will helps the football as well (and despite losing some top teams, there's still some very good programs in that conference).

[mercalnd]

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ECU. You could possibly make arguments for Southern Miss and UCF, too.

For CUSA East Carolina, Houston, SMU, Southern Miss, Tulsa, UCF are all good teams.

Except UCF, SMU and Houston are leaving for the Big East.

[Vaporub83]

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With the projected moves the CUSA would look like...
ECU, Southern Miss, Tulane, UAB, Marshall, Rice, Tulsa, UTEP, UTSA, Louisiana Tech, FIU, North Texas, Charlotte, & Old Dominion.

I remember ECU beating Virginia Tech a couple of years ago but nothing really since then. Southern Miss I guess would be the best team in the conference since they are reigning champs.

[Vaporub83]

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There's also the still present C-USA/MWC "alliance" which will helps the football as well (and despite losing some top teams, there's still some very good programs in that conference).

I can't really wrap my head around what the alliance would actually do/mean. Anyone know of a link I can read up about this thing?

[coogrfan]

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If you're going to blame UT for the status quo, you might as well blame Georgia Tech for leaving the SEC for the ACC or South Carolina for doing the opposite. I hate U. Texas as much as anybody, but I don't think that had anything to do with the current realignment wave that we're seeing right now.

With respect, you're wrong.

Texas is now, and has always been, orders of magnitude more powerful and influential than the GT's or SC's of the world. As a result the actions of UT have repercussions that are felt throught the cfb landscape. When SC jumped to the SEC the ACC continued to exist; when UT moved to what became the Big 12 the SWC was doomed. Almost a century of history and tradition was kicked to the curb for no other reason than the fact than the folks at one school decided it was in their own best interests to do so.

UT is more to blame for the current state of cfb than anyone else because they were the first of the truly big time programs to abandon longtime regional associations in search of a bigger payday. They, in effect, set in motion the chain of events that may well lead to the long predicted "super conferences" setting themselves up as separate entity apart from the rest of cfb.

[rocker78]

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With the projected moves the CUSA would look like...
ECU, Southern Miss, Tulane, UAB, Marshall, Rice, Tulsa, UTEP, UTSA, Louisiana Tech, FIU, North Texas, Charlotte, & Old Dominion.

I remember ECU beating Virginia Tech a couple of years ago but nothing really since then. Southern Miss I guess would be the best team in the conference since they are reigning champs.

well it does depend on your definition of good. S. Miss, Tulsa, and ECU could all play an above average major conference team 10 times and would be competitve in just about 10 games.

[Vaporub83]

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well it does depend on your definition of good. S. Miss, Tulsa, and ECU could all play an above average major conference team 10 times and would be competitve in just about 10 games.

My definition of good is if they were in an AQ conference they would be competitive (around .500)

[dickey1331]

My definition of good is if they were in an AQ conference they would be competitive (around .500)

Who in the Mountain West is good? I'd say CUSA is the best non AQ conference.


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[dickey1331]

Except UCF, SMU and Houston are leaving for the Big East.

I know they are. I pointed that out but you deleted that part of my quote.


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