Conference Re-Alignment Thread Part Who Knows

[cdawg44]

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Yes, but WVU was ranked #165 in that US News and World Report everyone loves to cite, so UL and WVU are virtually identical in that regard, yet that was the publicized reason WVU was rejected.

NC State has the lowest academic ranking in the ACC at the moment at #106. Of course, like most of these rankings, that can be a bit deceptive as NC State has one of the better engineering and veterinary programs in the country. The humanities side certainly is lacking, though.

You make some great points superjames, but again we ain't making the decisions. You have a room full of poindexter's who are a bunch of snobs and have no thought to what the fans think is logical or makes sense. West Virginia was just never going to be an ACC member as long as UNC/Duke/UVA all had a say in the decision. ACC had many chances, even last year to pull it off and didn't. Those ACC presidents just weren't going to have it, no matter how good their athletic programs are, how passionate the fans were or how money they were going to bring. UNC and UVA weren't going to have a bunch or rednecks take over their stadiums during football season and you know that was true.

UNC, UVA and Duke would all leave the ACC before they allowed West Virginia in. These folks out here truly look down on those folks. It makes no sense considering UNC's Ivory tower has crumbled, but these folks will hold on to what ever they can for as long as they can.

[SC3BBall]

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My bad Ehh. I think what hurt UCONN was the fan base size and perception. UCONN has been very successful over the past 20 years. However, the APR issue probably didn't help UCONN"s case either.

Somebody wrote today that U of L's athletic budget will the largest in the ACC before they even play in the conference. That is a susprise for sure.

UConn also has an inept AD from the looks of it.

I think they have tried to position themselves for a B1G invite, and would like to gain AAU acceptance, but the B1G has no perceived interest in them.

[cdawg44]

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that was 10 years ago, things have changed a bit since then.

ACC could have had them last year and told them to go away. The SEC did too. That is why they are in the Big XII.

[cdawg44]

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Denver leaving the WAC and joining the Summit League.

http://www.denverpost.com/colleges/ci_22077493/denver-jumps-summit-league-leaving-behind-unstable-wac

Grand Canyon is Denver's replacement.

[cdawg44]

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Florida Atlantic or New Mexico State will be member 14 of CUSA.

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/fau-owls/fau-blog/sfl-owls-to-conference-usa-is-a-real-possibility-20121128,0,5122295.story

Looks lik FAU has the upper hand however.

EDIT: FAU gets into CUSA

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/fau-owls/fau-blog/sfl-fau-owls-join-conference-usa-1128,0,1030255.post

[Ziza9Noles94]

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I'm just hoping re-alignment ends sometime soon. All this switching around has me scrambling to a reference to know which conference a school is playing in.

Anyways um, good pick up for the ACC?

It is an upgrade over Maryland in football and basketball. They have a natural, traditional SEC rival in Kentucky. That adds another to go along with FSU-UF, UGA-GTech, USCe-Clemson. They are a southern school. There is also some history with FSU in football (that I would like to forget, haha). I think it is a good pick.

[Noble Evildoer]

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It is an upgrade over Maryland in football and basketball. They have a natural, traditional SEC rival in Kentucky. That adds another to go along with FSU-UF, UGA-GTech, USCe-Clemson. They are a southern school. I think it is a good pick.

An ACC-SEC game the ACC will actually win!

Looking like it'll be FAU to C-USA to join Middle Tennessee. Sun Belt will probably bring somebody up like Georgia Southern and Appalachian State.

[thedudedominick]

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An ACC-SEC game the ACC will actually win!

Looking like it'll be FAU to C-USA to join Middle Tennessee. Sun Belt will probably bring somebody up like Georgia Southern and Appalachian State.

The tricky part with bringing up teams is trying to find a womens sport to match the growth in scholarships for the men. One that the school wont lose too much money on.

[Hooe]

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Lukewarm on the ACC adding Louisville. I don't hate it, there are a lot of reasons why it makes sense for the conference. I don't think I want them to be UVa's new cross-division rival in football as there's literally no history there. That will probably end up happening, however.

[ehh]

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My bad Ehh. I think what hurt UCONN was the fan base size and perception. UCONN has been very successful over the past 20 years. However, the APR issue probably didn't help UCONN"s case either.

Somebody wrote today that U of L's athletic budget will the largest in the ACC before they even play in the conference. That is a susprise for sure.

No worries. Despite the fact that our football team has made nice strides from I-AA in the last decade I have no delusions that we're a good program or have the potential to be. I mean, we're the idiots who made a BCS bowl and it COST the school money because no fans wanted to go. I'm sure the ACC/B1G looks at that and gags.

UConn also has an inept AD from the looks of it.

I think they have tried to position themselves for a B1G invite, and would like to gain AAU acceptance, but the B1G has no perceived interest in them.

The timing of all of this for UConn couldn't be worse.

• A new AD who came from small-time Buffalo and clearly isn't prepared to handle this whole situation
• A university president that doesn't understand the value of college athletics. It's great that she puts academics first, but she seems out of touch with reality.
• Calhoun retiring and the APR stuff (which is stupid and based on 2002-2005, it's got nothing to do with the current academic standing of the team)
• Edsall leaving and making the absolutely dreadful decision of hiring Paul Pasqualoni. The program has taken steps backwards the last two years.

It's a tough stretch for UConn, if this whole ordeal happened anytime between 2005-2010 I think we would have been one of the first schools to go. Well, actually we were, the ACC wanted us over Pitt but BC apparently blocked it.

[NYJets]

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I don't think the APR played into it. Or at least there is no reason it should. That's under control now, they have the post season ban this year, and then after that it's over.

I guess we stay put for now. Gotta hope that eventually the acc expands again or, less likely but preferably, the big 10 rumors end up being true.

[Pmoney327]

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It's sad when people are saying it was academics that got UL in the ACC over UConn, when UL has some of the worst academics around....

Blame Calhoun for pretty much not graduating any players, and recruiting kids who were borderline illiterate.

I think it's more likely BC made enough friends to block UConn getting in.

[ehh]

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Blame Calhoun for pretty much not graduating any players, and recruiting kids who were borderline illiterate.

Ignorance.

It was so low because of how many players transferred during that period. It was the rebuilding time between our first two national titles and things got a little sloppy on the recruiting front. Tons of guys left early as well (Caron, Gordon, Okafor, Villanueva, Gay, Boone, Marcus Williams).

The program basically got punished for being too good at what they're supposed to do - putting kids into the pros.

[Pmoney327]

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Ignorance.

It was so low because of how many players transferred during that period. It was the rebuilding time between our first two national titles and things got a little sloppy on the recruiting front. Tons of guys left early as well (Caron, Gordon, Okafor, Villanueva, Gay, Boone, Marcus Williams).

The program basically got punished for being too good at what they're supposed to do - putting kids into the pros.

Call it what you want, but something about Calhoun and even Geno oozes scum. I look at some of the players, mainly Drummond last year, and I wonder if he could even tie his shoes or tell time.

[Ziza9Noles94]

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Call it what you want, but something about Calhoun and even Geno oozes scum. I look at some of the players, mainly Drummond last year, and I wonder if he could even tie his shoes or tell time.

I hear you and if it were you or me, or anyone else on this board that went to college with an eye on academic achievement, that would be an issue. But seriously, those guys you mentioned went to school to get into the pros. Not to study for Org Chem and ace their med school boards in a few years. Now what I just said is messed up, but it is the reality of the situation.