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[DamnYanks2]

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I could do this if it meant P5 champions get an automatic bid with the highest ranked non-P5 getting the last spot.



But I'd still be bitching for 8.

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I don't have a problem with 8. But if they only could meet in the middle at six that's fine.

Also I have no sympathy for UCF. Play somebody. Schedule a solid sec team. Schedule two serious programs a year. Something.

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[SPTO]

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I don't have a problem with 8. But if they only could meet in the middle at six that's fine.

Also I have no sympathy for UCF. Play somebody. Schedule a solid sec team. Schedule two serious programs a year. Something.

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It's easier said than done. Have you seen some of the out of conference schedules for the big schools? They don't want to risk potential embarrassment of losing to one of these other teams.

I will grant you that the AD at UCF needs to look into following the Boise State model and try to schedule a good neutral site game if he can.

[Caulfield]

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I want an Auburn/UCF rematch. War Damn Eagle. Schedule it.

[DamnYanks2]

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It's easier said than done. Have you seen some of the out of conference schedules for the big schools? They don't want to risk potential embarrassment of losing to one of these other teams.

I will grant you that the AD at UCF needs to look into following the Boise State model and try to schedule a good neutral site game if he can.

Yes I have. But UCF declared themselves national champions last year. Lol so if they have that kind of testicular fortitude. Then put your money where your mouth is.

I know they beat Auburn last year. But there has to be more from them. It's not their fault they play in a weak conference but their schedule is still a joke. It just is.

At least when Boise st started getting noticed back then they made an effort to schedule solid noc opponents. UCF has not and yet they want respect?

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[Caulfield]

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Well see how much gas ucf has in the tank in 2019. Stanford and Pitt on the schedule

[TheShizNo1]

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Yes I have. But UCF declared themselves national champions last year. Lol so if they have that kind of testicular fortitude. Then put your money where your mouth is.

I know they beat Auburn last year. But there has to be more from them. It's not their fault they play in a weak conference but their schedule is still a joke. It just is.

At least when Boise st started getting noticed back then they made an effort to schedule solid noc opponents. UCF has not and yet they want respect?

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You understand scheduling takes years in advance? So if they felt that way then they wouldn't be playing whatever random SEC team until like 2022. Who knows what the SEC will look like then.

I'm saying, some of y'all act like scheduling these games is as simple as it was on the NCAA games.

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[DamnYanks2]

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You understand scheduling takes years in advance? So if they felt that way then they wouldn't be playing whatever random SEC team until like 2022. Who knows what the SEC will look like then.

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Yes I know that. I understand that you can't just call Auburn and get an agreement to play them next year.

Being a Kentucky fan I know they schedule opponents years in advance.

But its just hard from my point of view to respect UCF. That's just how I feel. All these teams battling each other all year and UCF doesnt have to grind like that.


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[Caulfield]

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You understand scheduling takes years in advance? So if they felt that way then they wouldn't be playing whatever random SEC team until like 2022. Who knows what the SEC will look like then.

oh, I want to play this game!
Lemme get my johhny carson mighty tarmac crystal ball.

5) vandy in midst of 7 game win streak over the vols
4) saban retires, bama hires dabo as replacement
3) tua's little brother wins 2nd straight heisman, national championship and nobel prize
2) sec sends 3 teams to playoffs, cfp reluctantly increases to 5 teams
1) ncaaf starts NIT mid-major football national championship. Central Michigan beats UCF in the inaugural. UCF loses coach to patriots, hires local hero Mickey as replacement

[SPTO]

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1) ncaaf starts NIT mid-major football national xhampionship. Central Michigan beats UCF in the inaugural. UCF loses coach to patriots, hires local hero Mickey as replacement

Donald needs to be the DC so we see him have a meltdown over a 58-55 ballgame. LOL

[LowerWolf]

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I've posted some variation of this in the past, might as well do it again.

I always hoped they'd tweak the BCS instead of eliminating it.

Orange Bowl
ACC Champ vs Wild Card (Clemson vs. Georgia)

Sugar Bowl
SEC Champ vs. Wild Card (Alabama vs. UCF)

Cotton/Fiesta Bowl
Big 12 Champ vs. Wild Card (Oklahoma vs. Notre Dame)

Rose Bowl
Big 10 Champ vs. Pac-12 Champ (Ohio State vs. Washington)

The winners are your Final Four and you go from there. All P5 champs get in and you can mandate a G5 team gets in as a WC.

That said, I'm OK with the current setup. I don't have any sympathy for Georgia. Beat Alabama in the SECCG and you're in. Not fair that you have to beat the #1 team to get in? Well it's more fair, IMO, than making undefeated Alabama have to beat two-loss Georgia twice in a month.

I do have sympathy for UCF. I don't think they're one of the four best teams in the country. But they did everything they could; they should get a chance to prove me and the other doubters wrong.

BTW, while UCF's schedule was lacking this year, traditionally they schedule pretty well. Miami, Texas, Penn State, Ohio State, Stanford and Michigan are some of the P5 teams they've played in the last decade.

[canes21]

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If a P5 team went out and scheduled 4 FCS schools for their non-conference games how many here would think they were deserving of a playoff spot if they went 12-0? You all realize that a good chunk of P5 schools could do that and still have a stronger schedule than what UCF plays, right? UCF had a weaker schedule than some FCS schools.


I don't understand the arguments defending them saying getting a tough schedule is hard, either. Why should that matter at all? They don't deserve pity and to get in over another deserving team that played a much tougher schedule just because their AD couldn't reach agreements with other schools. We've seen plenty of G5 teams that are good land good P5 opponents. Boise St had a good formula for playing some good schools like VT at FedEx Field. Fresno State seems to be able to get teams like LSU to play them during the regular season. The "it is tough to make a schedule" is a load of crap to me. It makes no sense why we can sit here and compare P5 schools and bring up their schedule strengths to make arguments, but then need to make an exception to UCF because they are a poor little G5 school.



With regards to this from earlier,

They easily get the first 4 spots but look what you can do with the next four:

Georgia
Ohio State
UCF
Washington

Georgia had their playoff game against Bama.They lost it. If they had won they were in. We had an extra playoff game there and they didn't deliver. Why do they deserve yet another chance in a format with more teams?


Ohio State got absolutely destroyed by Purdue and had some other lousy performances. They played Michigan in an elimination-type game. They beat Michigan handily. That eliminated Michigan from the playoff race and put * back at the table despite their weak resume. Ultimately, their weak resume kept them right on the outside and it is easy to see why they were there. This is a rare year where we had 4 undefeated teams, 3 of them from P5 teams/ND. That doesn't really happen much anymore, it is unfortunate for *. In a different year they likely sneak in with that blowout of Michigan, but this year they got right back into the conversation, but didn't earn that playoff spot thanks to their blowout loss and other weak showings throughout the year. It is easy to see why they were left out.


Washington has 3 losses. 3 LOSSES. How in the world does their resume scream they deserve a chance at a playoff game? They didn't earn a right to sit at the table. Losing 25% of your regular season games is not playoff-worthy!


UCF is UCF, I've made my case earlier in this post and through other posts throughout this forum.


What teams really deserve a playoff game outside of the 4 that made it? I know some here will say UCF, but who else is actually getting shorted in the system right now? UGA isn't, they had their fair chance and lost in the SEC title game. They choked that game away. They don't deserve a spot because of that. OSU doesn't, they looked lousy throughout the year at times and got blown out big time by Purdue. Washington clearly doesn't with 3 losses before bowl season. Really, no one is getting shorted in this system at all. I don't see why more teams is needed. The top 4 are all solid choices that earned their place throughout the season. You can't really make an argument for any of the teams left out to replace anyone in the top 4. Those are a solid 4 teams. There is no reason to add more teams outside of the $$$ and just any excitement for a potential upset. That's it. You cannot sit there and say anyone else deserves a playoff spot because everyone got their chance and didn't earn it.

[legendkiller5]

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In other non-playoff related news (I want at least a 6 or 8 team playoff, by the way), former Clemson QB, Kelly Bryant, chooses to play his last year of college ball at Missouri.

[saintrules]

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I've always been a fan of doing a six team playoff.

First two get byes so teams have something worth fighting for in the top six, I'm sure coaches would get a massive deep breath not having to play the first round.

The first two out, seven and eight, are typically not deserving nor good enough to get in. For example, that's Michigan and UCF, who I do not need to get started on. However, that means last season's UCF which was much more deserving than this one would have gotten in at six and Wisconsin/Penn State would have been the first two out, which was fine.

Eight is too many, eight is like the NCAA Tournament with teams who really shouldn't be in there, but they're still there. Four is too little because per the eye test, metrics, etc, 4-5-6, are typically equal.

My two cents.

[fugazi]

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I get the hate on UCFs schedule...

...but have you seen the BigTen West?

And then there are all the accolades Bama gets for beating Vandy, Arkansas, ole Miss etc...

The ACC? Yawn.

The Big12 carries a lot of weak teams, but I think I'd rather be Bama trying to get thru their sec schedule than consistently have to beat the often-hyper offenses of Texas Tech, TCU, OSU in the Big 12.

The college game is crazy top heavy.

I'd prefer not to criticize UCFs schedule until seeing more of them against "big"schools, like Auburn last year.

I'd be willing to bet UCF could win the Pac12 orthe Big Ten West, and likely 2nd in the ACC this year.

[TheShizNo1]

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I've always been a fan of doing a six team playoff.

First two get byes so teams have something worth fighting for in the top six, I'm sure coaches would get a massive deep breath not having to play the first round.

The first two out, seven and eight, are typically not deserving nor good enough to get in. For example, that's Michigan and UCF, who I do not need to get started on. However, that means last season's UCF which was much more deserving than this one would have gotten in at six and Wisconsin/Penn State would have been the first two out, which was fine.

Eight is too many, eight is like the NCAA Tournament with teams who really shouldn't be in there, but they're still there. Four is too little because per the eye test, metrics, etc, 4-5-6, are typically equal.

My two cents.

Yes. Less than 10% of teams making it is the same as 60+ teams making it in basketball.....

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