Official USC - Michigan "Rose Bowl Discussion thread"

**ochoco** · 12-08-2003, 08:28 PM

Re: Official USC - Michigan \"Rose Bowl Discussion thread\"

Could it be that USC beat some of those teams so bad they never recovered and thus it destroyed the rest of their season?

Records are so mis-leading when talking about strength of schedule. I think you should have to look at the record both teams had when they played. Even then its so hard to judge because a team with "nothing to loose" can be like a cornered badger. Mean as Hell!

**Bill_Abner** · 12-08-2003, 08:31 PM

Re: Official USC - Michigan \"Rose Bowl Discussion thread\"

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JoeBudden said:
I am no way underestamating USC i think there a great team but i have a problem with people saying that its gonnna be a 17 or more point diffrence between Michigan and USC i will really be suprised if either of them go over 30 because both teams have solid d's but if they do have a shootout it would be really fun to watch. Remember if i am not mistaken Michigan the least they put up against a team was 27 i dont know the least USC has put up.

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Because it's a typical viewpoint that the Big10 is simply full of slow, farm fed country boys that cannot keep up with the elite players in Florida or California. Ohio State fans heard this exact same thing before last year's Fiesta Bowl and how Miami's "Florida Speed" would run them off the field. An ESPN "anaylst" even said McGahee would get 200 yards and 3 TDs on the OSU defense. Nothing ever changes. Michigan is playing as well as any team in the nation right now and has as much talent as any team in the country. Why people think this will be a USC blowout makes no sense.

Michigan will be, without question, the best and most complete team USC has faced all year and if the Trojans think they are just going to show up and claim 1/2 of the NC then they'll get their butts kicked. They better come to play because Michigan sure will. USC is loaded. No doubt. But I think a 31-27 game is much more likely than a 45-20 USC romp.

**Bill_Abner** · 12-08-2003, 08:31 PM

Re: Official USC - Michigan \"Rose Bowl Discussion thread\"

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JoeBudden said:
I am no way underestamating USC i think there a great team but i have a problem with people saying that its gonnna be a 17 or more point diffrence between Michigan and USC i will really be suprised if either of them go over 30 because both teams have solid d's but if they do have a shootout it would be really fun to watch. Remember if i am not mistaken Michigan the least they put up against a team was 27 i dont know the least USC has put up.

<hr /></blockquote>

Because it's a typical viewpoint that the Big10 is simply full of slow, farm fed country boys that cannot keep up with the elite players in Florida or California. Ohio State fans heard this exact same thing before last year's Fiesta Bowl and how Miami's "Florida Speed" would run them off the field. An ESPN "anaylst" even said McGahee would get 200 yards and 3 TDs on the OSU defense. Nothing ever changes. Michigan is playing as well as any team in the nation right now and has as much talent as any team in the country. Why people think this will be a USC blowout makes no sense.

Michigan will be, without question, the best and most complete team USC has faced all year and if the Trojans think they are just going to show up and claim 1/2 of the NC then they'll get their butts kicked. They better come to play because Michigan sure will. USC is loaded. No doubt. But I think a 31-27 game is much more likely than a 45-20 USC romp.

**Bill_Abner** · 12-08-2003, 08:31 PM

Re: Official USC - Michigan \"Rose Bowl Discussion thread\"

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JoeBudden said:
I am no way underestamating USC i think there a great team but i have a problem with people saying that its gonnna be a 17 or more point diffrence between Michigan and USC i will really be suprised if either of them go over 30 because both teams have solid d's but if they do have a shootout it would be really fun to watch. Remember if i am not mistaken Michigan the least they put up against a team was 27 i dont know the least USC has put up.

<hr /></blockquote>

Because it's a typical viewpoint that the Big10 is simply full of slow, farm fed country boys that cannot keep up with the elite players in Florida or California. Ohio State fans heard this exact same thing before last year's Fiesta Bowl and how Miami's "Florida Speed" would run them off the field. An ESPN "anaylst" even said McGahee would get 200 yards and 3 TDs on the OSU defense. Nothing ever changes. Michigan is playing as well as any team in the nation right now and has as much talent as any team in the country. Why people think this will be a USC blowout makes no sense.

Michigan will be, without question, the best and most complete team USC has faced all year and if the Trojans think they are just going to show up and claim 1/2 of the NC then they'll get their butts kicked. They better come to play because Michigan sure will. USC is loaded. No doubt. But I think a 31-27 game is much more likely than a 45-20 USC romp.

**bkrich83** · 12-08-2003, 08:31 PM

Re: Official USC - Michigan \"Rose Bowl Discussion thread\"

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ochoco said:
Could it be that USC beat some of those teams so bad they never recovered and thus it destroyed the rest of their season?

Records are so mis-leading when talking about strength of schedule. I think you should have to look at the record both teams had when they played. Even then its so hard to judge because a team with "nothing to loose" can be like a cornered badger. Mean as Hell!

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Ignore him Ochoco, it's his weak attempt to bait Pac 10 fans.

**bkrich83** · 12-08-2003, 08:31 PM

Re: Official USC - Michigan \"Rose Bowl Discussion thread\"

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ochoco said:
Could it be that USC beat some of those teams so bad they never recovered and thus it destroyed the rest of their season?

Records are so mis-leading when talking about strength of schedule. I think you should have to look at the record both teams had when they played. Even then its so hard to judge because a team with "nothing to loose" can be like a cornered badger. Mean as Hell!

<hr /></blockquote>

Ignore him Ochoco, it's his weak attempt to bait Pac 10 fans.

**bkrich83** · 12-08-2003, 08:31 PM

Re: Official USC - Michigan \"Rose Bowl Discussion thread\"

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ochoco said:
Could it be that USC beat some of those teams so bad they never recovered and thus it destroyed the rest of their season?

Records are so mis-leading when talking about strength of schedule. I think you should have to look at the record both teams had when they played. Even then its so hard to judge because a team with "nothing to loose" can be like a cornered badger. Mean as Hell!

<hr /></blockquote>

Ignore him Ochoco, it's his weak attempt to bait Pac 10 fans.

**PdiddyPop** · 12-08-2003, 08:33 PM

Re: Official USC - Michigan \"Rose Bowl Discussion thread\"

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ATrillionaire said:
Michigan 24
USC 10

USC beat only one team this year with fewer than 5 losses..and even Washington State loss 3 times.

book it!!

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*looks out for the Pac-10 vultures circling around the area*

**PdiddyPop** · 12-08-2003, 08:33 PM

Re: Official USC - Michigan \"Rose Bowl Discussion thread\"

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ATrillionaire said:
Michigan 24
USC 10

USC beat only one team this year with fewer than 5 losses..and even Washington State loss 3 times.

book it!!

<hr /></blockquote>

*looks out for the Pac-10 vultures circling around the area*

**PdiddyPop** · 12-08-2003, 08:33 PM

Re: Official USC - Michigan \"Rose Bowl Discussion thread\"

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
ATrillionaire said:
Michigan 24
USC 10

USC beat only one team this year with fewer than 5 losses..and even Washington State loss 3 times.

book it!!

<hr /></blockquote>

*looks out for the Pac-10 vultures circling around the area*

**ochoco** · 12-08-2003, 08:40 PM

Re: Official USC - Michigan \"Rose Bowl Discussion thread\"

In my opinion there is no way in hell that Carrol doesn't have his team ready for this game. He is one helluva coach and he knows that Michigan is gonna be a head to head beat down. I hope both teams show up and knock the [censored you naughty boy] outa each other. (without any injuries of course) I still think USC will pull this one out but I agree that it will prolly be close.

If there was ever a game I would want tickets for, this is it. It is still unbelievable to me that most of USC's stars are Sophomores and Freshman....UNBELIEVABLE!!! I know OU is returnning alot of stars next year too. Just unbelievable how good some of these guys are one and two years outa High School...

**ochoco** · 12-08-2003, 08:40 PM

Re: Official USC - Michigan \"Rose Bowl Discussion thread\"

In my opinion there is no way in hell that Carrol doesn't have his team ready for this game. He is one helluva coach and he knows that Michigan is gonna be a head to head beat down. I hope both teams show up and knock the [censored you naughty boy] outa each other. (without any injuries of course) I still think USC will pull this one out but I agree that it will prolly be close.

If there was ever a game I would want tickets for, this is it. It is still unbelievable to me that most of USC's stars are Sophomores and Freshman....UNBELIEVABLE!!! I know OU is returnning alot of stars next year too. Just unbelievable how good some of these guys are one and two years outa High School...

**ochoco** · 12-08-2003, 08:40 PM

Re: Official USC - Michigan \"Rose Bowl Discussion thread\"

In my opinion there is no way in hell that Carrol doesn't have his team ready for this game. He is one helluva coach and he knows that Michigan is gonna be a head to head beat down. I hope both teams show up and knock the [censored you naughty boy] outa each other. (without any injuries of course) I still think USC will pull this one out but I agree that it will prolly be close.

If there was ever a game I would want tickets for, this is it. It is still unbelievable to me that most of USC's stars are Sophomores and Freshman....UNBELIEVABLE!!! I know OU is returnning alot of stars next year too. Just unbelievable how good some of these guys are one and two years outa High School...

**bkrich83** · 12-08-2003, 08:48 PM

Re: Official USC - Michigan \"Rose Bowl Discussion thread\"

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Bill_Abner said:
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JoeBudden said:
I am no way underestamating USC i think there a great team but i have a problem with people saying that its gonnna be a 17 or more point diffrence between Michigan and USC i will really be suprised if either of them go over 30 because both teams have solid d's but if they do have a shootout it would be really fun to watch. Remember if i am not mistaken Michigan the least they put up against a team was 27 i dont know the least USC has put up.

<hr /></blockquote>

Because it's a typical viewpoint that the Big10 is simply full of slow, farm fed country boys that cannot keep up with the elite players in Florida or California. Ohio State fans heard this exact same thing before last year's Fiesta Bowl and how Miami's "Florida Speed" would run them off the field. An ESPN "anaylst" even said McGahee would get 200 yards and 3 TDs on the OSU defense. Nothing ever changes. Michigan is playing as well as any team in the nation right now and has as much talent as any team in the country. Why people think this will be a USC blowout makes no sense.

Michigan will be, without question, the best and most complete team USC has faced all year and if the Trojans think they are just going to show up and claim 1/2 of the NC then they'll get their butts kicked. They better come to play because Michigan sure will. USC is loaded. No doubt. But I think a 31-27 game is much more likely than a 45-20 USC romp.

<hr /></blockquote>

It's sort of like the Big 10 fan's perception that the Pac 10 teams are soft and play no defense.

USC is more physical and more ahtletic than any team Michigan played this year. If Michigan shows up like they did against Oregon thinking they will just physically dominate, they are in for a shocker.

And if you saw the Oregon vs. Michigan game, the difference in speed was very apparent. To say it's not a factor is a joke, that would be like saying it wasn't a factor in USC blowing out Big 10 co-champ Iowa last year.

It cuts both ways, and I have a feeling that the Big 10 fans think USC is just a speed based soft team that plays no defense.

**bkrich83** · 12-08-2003, 08:48 PM

Re: Official USC - Michigan \"Rose Bowl Discussion thread\"

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Bill_Abner said:
<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
JoeBudden said:
I am no way underestamating USC i think there a great team but i have a problem with people saying that its gonnna be a 17 or more point diffrence between Michigan and USC i will really be suprised if either of them go over 30 because both teams have solid d's but if they do have a shootout it would be really fun to watch. Remember if i am not mistaken Michigan the least they put up against a team was 27 i dont know the least USC has put up.

<hr /></blockquote>

Because it's a typical viewpoint that the Big10 is simply full of slow, farm fed country boys that cannot keep up with the elite players in Florida or California. Ohio State fans heard this exact same thing before last year's Fiesta Bowl and how Miami's "Florida Speed" would run them off the field. An ESPN "anaylst" even said McGahee would get 200 yards and 3 TDs on the OSU defense. Nothing ever changes. Michigan is playing as well as any team in the nation right now and has as much talent as any team in the country. Why people think this will be a USC blowout makes no sense.

Michigan will be, without question, the best and most complete team USC has faced all year and if the Trojans think they are just going to show up and claim 1/2 of the NC then they'll get their butts kicked. They better come to play because Michigan sure will. USC is loaded. No doubt. But I think a 31-27 game is much more likely than a 45-20 USC romp.

<hr /></blockquote>

It's sort of like the Big 10 fan's perception that the Pac 10 teams are soft and play no defense.

USC is more physical and more ahtletic than any team Michigan played this year. If Michigan shows up like they did against Oregon thinking they will just physically dominate, they are in for a shocker.

And if you saw the Oregon vs. Michigan game, the difference in speed was very apparent. To say it's not a factor is a joke, that would be like saying it wasn't a factor in USC blowing out Big 10 co-champ Iowa last year.

It cuts both ways, and I have a feeling that the Big 10 fans think USC is just a speed based soft team that plays no defense.

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