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  • Husker_OS
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    • Jun 2003
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    #226
    Re: Is the SEC really that dominant or overrated???

    Originally posted by ubernoob
    You are doing the same thing though.

    The SEC is so dominant because of all their BCS Championships in the last 7-10 years? Well, throw those out then because bowl games don't count.

    Where did I say that?

    I voted in the poll but didn't say a word as to why I voted that way.
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    • Husker_OS
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      Re: Is the SEC really that dominant or overrated???

      Originally posted by bkrich83
      Way to fail to answer my questions.

      As I said, the better team one, that really can't be disputed.

      I'm not disputing the better team that night was Utah.

      What I said was that if Alabama had actually played Utah with same attitude they played Florida it would have been a great matchup.

      You're getting terrible at this.
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      • TripleCrown9
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        #228
        Re: Is the SEC really that dominant or overrated???

        The start of college football means the renewal of BK/Husker pissing contests.
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        • bkrich83
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          #229
          Re: Is the SEC really that dominant or overrated???

          Originally posted by Bulldawg2010
          The SEC is Extremly top heavy. Idk why the media makes them so hyped. Extremly top heavy conference. Personally would love to see my bulldogs play top teams from other conferences home and home or in a neutral site. Came close to playing Ohio state home and home at the end of the decade but didn't happen.
          I'd agree with the Top heavy stuff. In 5 of the last 6 years at least one team has managed to run the table in SEC conference play IIRC. If it's that strong top to bottom, we'd probably see a little more parity in the standings.

          Great conference, best in the country, the top teams in the conference are obviously great, but the overall depth isn't as great as some seem to make it out to be.
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          • trobinson97
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            #230
            Re: Is the SEC really that dominant or overrated???

            Originally posted by BigDofA
            I forgot to mention the year that Bama was #1 all season and then got lit up by Utah. Yet another example that the gap isn't as big as some believe.
            Originally posted by Husker_OS
            All season my ***. UGA was the overhyped SEC team that season, not Alabama. I believe we started out around #10 pre-season.

            Alabama came into that season ranked #24. Didn't get the #1 ranking until late in the season, around week nine or ten, some time after Florida slipped up against Ole Miss.

            Edit: Looking it up, it was week 10, after Texas lost. Was #1 until the SECCG loss.
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            • bkrich83
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              #231
              Re: Is the SEC really that dominant or overrated???

              Originally posted by TripleCrown9
              The start of college football means the renewal of BK/Husker pissing contests.
              No pissing contest, I merely pointed out the excuses being used to explain away Alabama losing to Utah, on a national stage. Apparently Alabama only loses when they allow other teams to beat them for lack of wanting to play.
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              • bkrich83
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                #232
                Re: Is the SEC really that dominant or overrated???

                Originally posted by Husker_OS

                You're getting terrible at this.
                Your frustration says otherwise. Oh well, back to ignore.
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                • z Revis
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                  #233
                  Re: Is the SEC really that dominant or overrated???

                  I agree with Husker though. I don't even think Utah was the better team. They were better that night, sure, but is anyone seriously going to suggest that if those two teams played in a series that Utah would win?

                  And before you say it BK.. no this isn't my explanation for what happened to ND. Alabama annihilated us and would do it again.
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                  • bkrich83
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                    Re: Is the SEC really that dominant or overrated???

                    Originally posted by z Revis
                    I agree with Husker though. I don't even think Utah was the better team. They were better that night, sure, but is anyone seriously going to suggest that if those two teams played in a series that Utah would win?

                    And before you say it BK.. no this isn't my explanation for what happened to ND. Alabama annihilated us and would do it again.
                    Utah went 13-0 and defeated Alabama by two touchdowns on a Neutral field in SEC territory. What argument can you make for Alabama that tops that?
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                    • z Revis
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                      Re: Is the SEC really that dominant or overrated???

                      Originally posted by bkrich83
                      Utah went 13-0 and defeated Alabama by two touchdowns on a Neutral field in SEC territory. What argument can you make for Alabama that tops that?
                      13-0 by beating who? TCU and BYU who also beat nobody? A 3-9 Michigan team? Impressive...

                      There is no argument for Alabama losing. They lost the game, but it's not exactly unheard of for teams to go into games not as focused as usual.
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                      • bkrich83
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                        Re: Is the SEC really that dominant or overrated???

                        Originally posted by z Revis
                        13-0 by beating who? TCU and BYU who also beat nobody? A 3-9 Michigan team? Impressive...

                        There is no argument for Alabama losing. They lost the game, but it's not exactly unheard of for teams to go into games not as focused as usual.
                        That's it? That's your argument for Alabama over Utah? That trumps mine?
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                        • z Revis
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                          Re: Is the SEC really that dominant or overrated???

                          Originally posted by bkrich83
                          That's it? That's your argument for Alabama over Utah? That trumps mine?
                          Lol...

                          I'm simply pointing out that not always do teams come into a game with the enthusiasm and focus they do for other games. The Sugar Bowl is the NC to Utah. Alabama just came off a loss to UF that would've sent them to the NC. I think it's at least wise to consider those two facts when thinking about who the better team was. Plus that Bama was almost a 10 point favorite to win.

                          Do you believe in upsets? Or is every team that wins a game better no matter what?
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                          • bkrich83
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                            Re: Is the SEC really that dominant or overrated???

                            Originally posted by z Revis
                            Lol...

                            I'm simply pointing out that not always do teams come into a game with the enthusiasm and focus they do for other games. The Sugar Bowl is the NC to Utah. Alabama just came off a loss to UF that would've sent them to the NC. I think it's at least wise to consider those two facts when thinking about who the better team was. Plus that Bama was almost a 10 point favorite to win.

                            Do you believe in upsets? Or is every team that wins a game better no matter what?
                            I do believe in upsets. But 14 point wins on a neutral field with a month to prepare? Upsets just mean the team favored to win lost, doesn't mean the underdog wasn't the better team in the first place.

                            My question is if you want to make the Alabama was the better team argument can you top my points? Utah was 13-0 and defeated Alabama by two touchdowns on a neutral field in SEC territory. Other than being an SEC team, what other argument can you make for Alabama?

                            If you took the names off the uniforms, this wouldn't even be a discussion, imo.
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                            • z Revis
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                              Re: Is the SEC really that dominant or overrated???

                              Originally posted by bkrich83
                              I do believe in upsets. But 14 point wins on a neutral field with a month to prepare? Upsets just mean the team favored to win lost, doesn't mean the underdog wasn't the better team in the first place.

                              My question is if you want to make the Alabama was the better team argument can you top my points? Utah was 13-0 and defeated Alabama by two touchdowns on a neutral field in SEC territory. Other than being an SEC team, what other argument can you make for Alabama?

                              If you took the names off the uniforms, this wouldn't even be a discussion, imo.
                              Why does it matter that they were 13-0? Who did they beat?

                              I don't think you can say for a fact that they were the better team, despite beating Bama. Whether or not you like it Alabama IS an SEC team and went 12-1 in that conference.

                              Although I will say Bama's schedule year wasn't that great, but they still had better wins than Utah.

                              I'm not totally saying you're wrong, but I also don't think it's as simple as well they won the game so they're the better team.

                              Again Bama fell down 21-0 after 10 minutes of play. That's ridiculous. That to me is typical of one team who thinks its the National Championship and another team who just isn't as focused, not a sign of talent disparity.
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                              • bkrich83
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                                #240
                                Re: Is the SEC really that dominant or overrated???

                                Originally posted by z Revis
                                Why does it matter that they were 13-0? Who did they beat?

                                I don't think you can say for a fact that they were the better team, despite beating Bama. Whether or not you like it Alabama IS an SEC team and went 12-1 in that conference.

                                Although I will say Bama's schedule year wasn't that great, but they still had better wins than Utah.

                                I'm not totally saying you're wrong, but I also don't think it's as simple as well they won the game so they're the better team.

                                Again Bama fell down 21-0 after 10 minutes of play. That's ridiculous. That to me is typical of one team who thinks its the National Championship and another team who just isn't as focused, not a sign of talent disparity.
                                Better team isn't always the most talented team. I am still not getting your argument. Is it, despite the fact that Utah beat them soundly, Alabama is still the better team because they are an SEC team? The schedule argument would go a lot further if Utah didn't handle Alabama head to head.

                                Or falling behind 21-0 after 10 minutes is losing to a team that was better than you, or better prepared, or better than you thought. However the point remains, I've yet to see a valid argument that Bama was the better team. Have you? Also if you can't get up for a BCS Bowl game, in your home region played in front of the entire country, then you weren't that good of a team in the first place.
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