Is the SEC really that dominant or overrated???

[Jr.]

Re: Is the SEC really that dominant or overrated???

their are alot of good games in other conferences that dont get reconized by the media.i believe the sec is media driven not that their are no good teams their are just as many good teams and games elsewhere

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[twl221]

The talent level is higher, if only by a little bit. The reason the SEC is perceived better by most casual fans/media is that the level of coaching is a different level in the SEC. We see that all the time in college football; most recently on the west coast with Stanford and Oregon, teams with elite coaching do very well in college. It's simple if you really think about it. Saban is arguably the best coach in the game, Miles is probably elite, Meyer was (and still is), Spurrier is very good, Sumlin had a year to remember. Those are the guys people know. When they start to leave or degrade and a new conference has the coaches, that conference will be the best. A little irrelevant to the argument going on, but .02.

Also, off-topic a bit: I think playing in an extra game a week later (Alabama) allows a team to be sharper than if they had a week off (ND). (Of course you could look at Bama 2 years ago against LSU in the mnc, but I think that was because Saban is a much better coach than Kelly, not saying Kelly is not good though). That is why I think the semis of the playoff will be low scoring, but the Championship game will be on par to the regular season.

[Husker_OS]

Re: Is the SEC really that dominant or overrated???

Those are probably true statements as well which is just sad.

I hate this system and my team has benefited from it as much if not more than anyone.

The unfortunate part of it all is the difficulty of finding a happy medium with the playoff. Perception will still be king for those 3rd and 4th playoff spots. Expand it to 8 and then you run the risk of another 2 loss "champion". Or God forbid a 3 loss champion in those rare seasons.

Eventually I'd like to see 20-24 teams in the playoff and a reduction of the regular season to 10 games. 9 conference games and 1 OOC game. No conference championship unless your conference is willing to sacrifice a regular season conference game to stay at the 10 game limit.

[z Revis]

Re: Is the SEC really that dominant or overrated???

The talent level is higher, if only by a little bit. The reason the SEC is perceived better by most casual fans/media is that the level of coaching is a different level in the SEC. We see that all the time in college football; most recently on the west coast with Stanford and Oregon, teams with elite coaching do very well in college. It's simple if you really think about it. Saban is arguably the best coach in the game, Miles is probably elite, Meyer was (and still is), Spurrier is very good, Sumlin had a year to remember. Those are the guys people know. When they start to leave or degrade and a new conference has the coaches, that conference will be the best. A little irrelevant to the argument going on, but .02.

Well of course the best conference is going to have the best coaching. You could say that about any great team, conference, division, etc. The talent level is still superior though. They aren't winning championships on pure coaching. Let's not forget the SEC has also produced 4 Heisman winners during this NC streak they have going.

[twl221]

I know, but talent mean a lot less as you go down the line. College takes talent, but a good coach wins you a few game a year, if not more. In my observation, the talent level among teams in the SEC and other places is about equal except on the offensive and especially defensive lines.

[bkrich83]

Well of course the best conference is going to have the best coaching. You could say that about any great team, conference, division, etc. The talent level is still superior though. They aren't winning championships on pure coaching. Let's not forget the SEC has also produced 4 Heisman winners during this NC streak they have going.

The Heisman became irrelevant the second Geno Toretta won it over Marshall Faulk. Heisman is about media hype only. Much like the current National Championship is decided.

[Marino]

Re: Is the SEC really that dominant or overrated???

I believe LSU has a series lined up with OU towards the end of the decade that i'm looking forward to if doesn't end up being dropped.

I know LSU is coming to Raleigh in a few years. Not the best OOC but decent.

[BigDofBA]

Re: Is the SEC really that dominant or overrated???

Every argument "for" the BCS has been destroyed over and over.

Myth #1 - Every game matters.

Myth Busted:
- Utah goes undefeated and doesn't have a chance to play for a title.
- Boise goes undefeated and doesn't have a chance to play for a title.
- TCU goes undefeated and doesn't have a chance to play for a title.
- USC finishes #1 in both polls and doesn't get to play for a title.
- Nebraska doesn't even win their division and plays for a title in 2002
- OU doesn't even win their conference in 2003 and plays for a title.
- Bama finishes second in their division, gets to rest championship week, and gets in in 2011.
- Ask 2004 Auburn if every game mattered.....

Myth #2 - It matters when you lose

Myth busted.
- 2002 Nebraska lost their final game
- 2003 OU lost their final game
- 2007 LSU lost mid-season to Kentucky and their final game at home to Arkansas

Myth #3 - It matters who you lose to.

Myth busted.
- 2003 LSU lost to a .500 Florida team at home
- 2007 LSU lost to mediocre Arkansas and Kentucky teams
- 2008 Florida lost to Ole Miss
- 2008 OU lost to Texas on a neutral field and got to play for a title over a Texas team with the same record. I argued for it at the time but come on...I would be pissed if it was reversed.
- TCU, Boise, and Utah don't lose to anyone and get screwed. Don't tell me they can't play with the big boys. They have beaten Big 10, Big 12, and SEC champions. Just ask OU, Alabama, Oregon, and Wisconsin if these teams can play.

I could go on forever but I'll spare you.

Facts
It's beauty contest with only about 20 participants eligible pre-season.There are about 100 teams that have zero shot. It's really about where you start in the polls because if you finish 11-1 and another team finishes 11-1, you will be ranked below them if they started in the top 5 and you started ranked 20th. Why? Because a bunch of people that don't watch the games voted on it...

I'll reference the year OU blew out Texas Tech at home and the following week a voter dropped OU out of the top 20 and move Tech ahead of OU. His reasoning? "I must have looked at the box score incorrectly." Give me a break. There are so many agendas its' ridiculous.

[ZB9]

Re: Is the SEC really that dominant or overrated???

Eventually I'd like to see 20-24 teams in the playoff and a reduction of the regular season to 10 games. 9 conference games and 1 OOC game. No conference championship unless your conference is willing to sacrifice a regular season conference game to stay at the 10 game limit.

That's too much man. The NFL doesn't even have that many.

[ZB9]

Re: Is the SEC really that dominant or overrated???

I know, but talent mean a lot less as you go down the line. College takes talent, but a good coach wins you a few game a year, if not more. In my observation, the talent level among teams in the SEC and other places is about equal except on the offensive and especially defensive lines.

I agree with you about the defensive lines. That's the main reason why the SEC has been the best conference recently imo.

[Husker_OS]

Re: Is the SEC really that dominant or overrated???

That's too much man. The NFL doesn't even have that many.

Seems to work well at the lower divisions. FCS will have 24 this coming season.

With 120+ D1 teams and that number increasing every 2-3 years I think you need 20-24 in the playoff.

[ZB9]

Re: Is the SEC really that dominant or overrated???

Seems to work well at the lower divisions. FCS will have 24 this coming season.

With 120+ D1 teams and that number increasing every 2-3 years I think you need 20-24 in the playoff.

Idk man that's a little extreme. There's no way that D1 could pull that off like FCS does. Let's just be happy that they are going to any kind of playoff at all. Let's see how 4 teams goes and then 8 when they inevitably try that down the road. I would bet that 8 is the max.

[twl221]

I don't see why. If they could do a 25 team tournament, then the top 25 would actually mean something, in theory. Don't get me wrong, being ranked is big for a small program, but it doesn't really mean anything if you stop to think about it. If there is gonna be some ranking system, at least let it mean getting to play for something!

[lonewolf371]

Re: Is the SEC really that dominant or overrated???

What's actually going to happen is all the BCS schools that have enough money to pay players are going to break off and form their own division or league where players can get stipends and such. At that point a small playoff pool will seem reasonable.