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  • GAMEC0CK2002
    Stayin Alive
    • Aug 2002
    • 10384

    #256
    Re: Is the SEC really that dominant or overrated???

    I'll say it once again, it requires some luck as well. Every time that the highest ranked SEC team has lost, the other teams have gone on to lose giving the spot in the BCS championship game back.

    IIRC, after Bama lost last year-- K St. and Oregon lost on the same night.
    Last edited by GAMEC0CK2002; 08-11-2013, 01:36 PM.

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    • z Revis
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      • Oct 2008
      • 13639

      #257
      Re: Is the SEC really that dominant or overrated???

      Originally posted by BigDofBA
      What are you even trying to argue?

      Utah went undefeated and smacked the piss out of Alabama in SEC country but you're trying to argue against Utah being better because of the "other" teams they played even though Utah could have named their score against Bama head to head?

      Then you go on to make excuses that Bama didnt' care? LMAO.

      So I guess when.....

      Clemson beats SEC power LSU in SEC country,
      Louisville dominates SEC power Florida in SEC country,
      West Virginia destroys Georgia in SEC country,
      Boise State travels halfway across the country and dominates Georgia in Atlanta a few years ago ...

      It doesn't matter because the other teams play in the SEC and probably didn't care about those games.

      See the problem and how foolish your argument is? When mid-majors dominate SEC powers, in SEC country no less, it's because the SEC doesn't care. When the SEC wins, it's because the SEC is great and almighty.

      Utah dominated Bama head to head and somehow Bama was still better that year because of the conference they played in. Unreal reasoning. LOL.
      Nice try, but I didn't say 80% of this stuff.

      I also don't think you remember how that game played out because it was 21-17 in the 3rd. Hardly a game in which Utah could "name their score."
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      • TracerBullet
        One Last Job
        • Jun 2009
        • 22119

        #258
        Re: Is the SEC really that dominant or overrated???

        Originally posted by bkrich83
        No excuse for playing FCS teams. None.

        Can't remember the last time an SEC team left the region to play a non neutral site game.
        Originally posted by Chrisksaint
        LSU/Washington in '09 and Bama/Penn St in '11 is it unless i'm forgetting some.
        Georgia is a team you've forgotten:
        08: @ Arizona State (Win 27-10)
        09: @ Oklahoma State (Loss 24-10)
        10: @ Colorado (Loss 29-27)

        LSU went to West Virginia in '11

        Vandy went to Northwestern last year, Connecticut in '10, and Miami of Ohio in '08. Though they're Vandy so no one cared so much.

        Ole Miss went to Fresno in '11

        Auburn went to West Virginia in '08.

        And Bama went to Duke in '10, which is just odd to think about.

        The future is getting a little better as far as travelling though as Bama will go to MSU, Auburn is going to Kansas State, TAMU is going to Oregon, Missouri goes to Toledo and Wyoming (LOL), Vandy goes to UMass twice (LOL again), Arkansas goes to Texas Tech, Michigan, and TCU (Though I guess the Texas games are in region now), Tennessee goes to Oregon, Nebraska, Connecticut, and OU. All of these are in the next 5 years. Tennessee also has USC scheduled beyond that.

        Still, I do wish Florida would leave the state for OoC just once in the next few years. And yes, I am just now catching up to this conversation. *Insert Watson Slowpoke pic*
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        • GAMEC0CK2002
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          • Aug 2002
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          #259
          Re: Is the SEC really that dominant or overrated???

          It's kind of silly to argue that the conference isn't good from top to bottom. The "top" teams have to play (and usually beat) somebody.

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          • Husker_OS
            Champs
            • Jun 2003
            • 21459

            #260
            Re: Is the SEC really that dominant or overrated???

            Originally posted by ZB9
            So if an SEC team loses it's because "they dont care"? How do you gauge a teams level of care?

            Anyway, it doesnt matter how much they cared. When a team gets handled as badly as Florida did against Louisville, and on a neutral site, you cant say that the Gators were the better team regardless of how much they "cared". It got settled on the field and that is what it's all about.

            George Foreman might have been a more talented boxer physically than Ali but you cant say that Foreman was better because it got settled in the ring. Ali probably "cared" more than Foreman and that is part of it. Styles make fights and football games.

            I agree, UL was a class above Florida last season. The 2 teams could play 5 times and it would likely be 4-1 in favor of UL.

            I find it ridiculous BK won't acknowledge these are college kids and emotions play a huge role in the 1st halves of games. Utah really wanted to be there and win that game. It showed in the first half. Alabama looked like they didn't care what happened because their previous game was a national semifinal the air was taken out of the '08 season by Tebow. They eventually got their asses in gear and made it 21-17 in the 3rd quarter. Had Alabama played like that the entire game I think you would have seen a game decided by whomever had the ball last.

            But let's go with what BK said and declare Utah the 2008 national champion. It's clear Utah was multiple touchdowns better than Alabama while a team like Florida had to comeback in the 4th quarter to win.
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            • Husker_OS
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              • Jun 2003
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              #261
              Re: Is the SEC really that dominant or overrated???

              Originally posted by GAMEC0CK2002
              I'll say it once again, it requires some luck as well. Every time that the highest ranked SEC team has lost, the other teams have gone on to lose giving the spot in the BCS championship game back.

              IIRC, after Bama lost last year-- K St. and Oregon lost on the same night.

              True.

              The SEC's run on titles won't end until 2 teams step up and don't piss down their leg in late November.
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              • Chrisksaint
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                #262
                All I know about the SEC is LSU plays A&M, Bama, UGA, and UF this year so there may be a lot of praying this season.
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                • bkrich83
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                  • Jul 2002
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                  #263
                  Re: Is the SEC really that dominant or overrated???

                  Originally posted by GAMEC0CK2002
                  It's kind of silly to argue that the conference isn't good from top to bottom.
                  Who argued that? Disputing they are the greatest or that they aren't as far ahead of everyone else as some would say, is not even close to saying they aren't good.
                  Last edited by bkrich83; 08-11-2013, 02:21 PM.
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                  • bkrich83
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                    • Jul 2002
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                    #264
                    Re: Is the SEC really that dominant or overrated???

                    Originally posted by Husker_OS
                    It's clear Utah was multiple touchdowns better than Alabama
                    That is the one thing that is undisputable in this thread as that's exactly how their matchup played out on a neutral field.
                    Last edited by bkrich83; 08-11-2013, 02:25 PM.
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                    • Husker_OS
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                      • Jun 2003
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                      #265
                      Re: Is the SEC really that dominant or overrated???

                      Originally posted by bkrich83
                      That is the one thing that is undisputable in this thread as that's exactly how their matchup played out on a neutral field. Anything else is pure uneducated speculation. Although the excuses are fun.

                      So then Alabama being the best team in college football 3 of the last 4 seasons is indisputable also.


                      If that's the end result of this debate then I'm cool with it.
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                      • bkrich83
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                        #266
                        Re: Is the SEC really that dominant or overrated???

                        Originally posted by Husker_OS
                        So then Alabama being the best team in college football 3 of the last 4 seasons is indisputable also.
                        Has anyone said otherwise? Not sure how it's relevant to the conversation though.
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                        • AUChase
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                          #267
                          Re: Is the SEC really that dominant or overrated???

                          Somebody please think of the poor dead horse.

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                          • GAMEC0CK2002
                            Stayin Alive
                            • Aug 2002
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                            #268
                            Re: Is the SEC really that dominant or overrated???

                            Originally posted by AUChase
                            Somebody please think of the poor dead horse.
                            Basically. Ric Flair probably said it best....



                            Everything else is just splitting hairs and debating just for debating's sake.

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                            • Sportsforever
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                              #269
                              Re: Is the SEC really that dominant or overrated???

                              Originally posted by bkrich83
                              We wouldn't have the 2nd group without the first. I think the SEC chants after beating a Sun Belt team at home, really started the opposition group up. Not to mention the media bias, and the pass SEC teams seem to get in the polls and with the BCS.
                              I'm just not sure what the point of this discussion is anymore...I find it annoying as ALL get out when any SEC team chants "SEC SEC SEC" for ANY reason, but I find it just as annoying that we are getting wound up about how good/bad a conference is.

                              This crap has made me long for the pre-BCS days when this stuff didn't matter and people rooted for their teams and not a conference.
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                              • bkrich83
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                                #270
                                Re: Is the SEC really that dominant or overrated???

                                Originally posted by Sportsforever

                                This crap has made me long for the pre-BCS days when this stuff didn't matter and people rooted for their teams and not a conference.
                                I am right there with you. I think it would go away if all the SEC is the greatest constant propaganda wasn't stuffed down our throats, both by fans but also the national media.
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