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  • BigDofBA
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    • Aug 2002
    • 9066

    #286
    Re: Is the SEC really that dominant or overrated???

    Originally posted by AUChase
    Why do people always feel the need to defend their conference ? The history speaks for itself.

    Third best in the West.. Fwiw
    That's what I don't understand.

    You're an Auburn fan and your school just won a title a few years ago and went undefeated and got screwed in 2004. You have something substantial to hang your hat on.

    As for A&M winning the Big 12 last year, probably. Who knows. The Big 12 wasn't very good last year and will be worse this year. I'm more concerned with my school getting some players on defense than I am on how Okie State does against Miss. State or Texas does against Ole Miss. Heck, I would love for Ole Miss to beat Texas. It would be hilarious.
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    • Jr.
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      • Feb 2003
      • 19171

      #287
      Re: Is the SEC really that dominant or overrated???

      I'm one that roots for the success of the whole conference. I'm an Alabama fan and a SEC fan.

      You ask why I root for the SEC to succeed in non-conference games? Alabama's BCS Titles in '12 and '11 only came because of the SEC's success as a conference. If Florida, LSU, and Auburn hadn't won titles in the last 7 years, I doubt Alabama gets in over Oklahoma State 2 years ago, and possibly over whatever other 1 loss team last season.

      Conference strength plays a big role in determining who gets to play for the crystal ball.
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      • ActLikeYouCrow
        MVP
        • Apr 2009
        • 1025

        #288
        Re: Is the SEC really that dominant or overrated???

        i wouldnt say ou's big 12 schedule is tougher (its preseason, it could go either way). on paper i'd say lsu and a&m are tougher than any of the best two big 12 teams on ou's schedule. whether the depth of the schedule is tougher remains to be seen. i think some of you are going a little over the top with the bottom half of the sec being terrible rhetoric. the bottom half of the sec was no different than any other conference and thats with auburn and arkansas going into the toilet last year.

        thats not me flying an sec flag, just stating an opinion. the conspiracy theories are more outlandish than this notion of the "sec fan". the media? the polls? the bcs? are you guys sure it doesnt go higher than that? its hilarious.

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        • BigDofBA
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          • Aug 2002
          • 9066

          #289
          Re: Is the SEC really that dominant or overrated???

          Originally posted by Baughn3

          You ask why I root for the SEC to succeed in non-conference games? Alabama's BCS Titles in '12 and '11 only came because of the SEC's success as a conference. If Florida, LSU, and Auburn hadn't won titles in the last 7 years, I doubt Alabama gets in over Oklahoma State 2 years ago, and possibly over whatever other 1 loss team last season.

          Conference strength plays a big role in determining who gets to play for the crystal ball.
          When Bama's regular season ended in 2011, they had beaten "three" teams that ended the regular season with a winning record, lost their biggest game of the year at home, and not even won their division.

          Still then, they got to play for a title. That's messed up.

          It was messed up when OU and Nebraska got to play for titles when they didn't win their conference as well just as it was horrible when Auburn got left out in 2004.

          Bama is a great program and the SEC is a great conference. I'm just saying the system sucks and it's all about hype.

          The SEC's bad teams are not different than any other conference. The SEC top 2 teams are usually better. There is your difference. Bama > everyone.

          The system sucks. We shouldn't even have to worry about what other programs in the conferences are doing. It should be decided on the field in a playoff.

          I keep using my team as an example but one year some voter dropped OU out of the top 25 after they "beat "Texas Tech because he read the ticker wrong. You have people voting that don't even watch the games.
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          • ActLikeYouCrow
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            • Apr 2009
            • 1025

            #290
            Re: Is the SEC really that dominant or overrated???

            its beyond the top 2 teams, the top 6 in the sec last year all were pretty close to one another. every other conference had a relatively strong top 2 and then virtually nobody else behind them that you could make a case for being a top 15 team even half the year.

            even bama isnt head and shoulders above everyone, they lost sec games the past two years at home. they had to gut out a victory against lsu late in the 4th quarter last year. bama alone isnt making the sec look better than it is.

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            • Jr.
              Playgirl Coverboy
              • Feb 2003
              • 19171

              #291
              Re: Is the SEC really that dominant or overrated???

              Originally posted by BigDofBA
              When Bama's regular season ended in 2011, they had beaten "three" teams that ended the regular season with a winning record, lost their biggest game of the year at home, and not even won their division.

              Still then, they got to play for a title. That's messed up.

              It was messed up when OU and Nebraska got to play for titles when they didn't win their conference as well just as it was horrible when Auburn got left out in 2004.

              Bama is a great program and the SEC is a great conference. I'm just saying the system sucks and it's all about hype.

              The SEC's bad teams are not different than any other conference. The SEC top 2 teams are usually better. There is your difference. Bama > everyone.

              The system sucks. We shouldn't even have to worry about what other programs in the conferences are doing. It should be decided on the field in a playoff.

              I keep using my team as an example but one year some voter dropped OU out of the top 25 after they "beat "Texas Tech because he read the ticker wrong. You have people voting that don't even watch the games.
              I completely agree that the system sucks.

              But it's the system that this sport has, so we all have to deal with it or stop watching.

              Everyone's asking why teams root for a conference, along with a team... that's why.
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              • USNAggie44
                Pro
                • Nov 2011
                • 698

                #292
                Originally posted by NEOPARADIGM
                Sorry if it's been mentioned, but the elephant in the room in all this is how SEC fans were all over A&M, saying how they were gonna "find out" about SEC football. How'd that work out, exactly?

                I mean, I know Johnny F'n Football is GOD and all that, but A&M? Really SEC? A&M comes in and shows y'all just what a "gauntlet" a SEC schedule is? This is the same A&M that's basically somewhere around Michigan State historically, right?

                2002: 6-6
                2003: 4-8
                2004: 7-5
                2005: 5-6
                2006: 9-4
                2007: 7-6
                2008: 4-8
                2009: 6-7
                2010: 9-4
                2011: 7-6

                That A&M, right?

                "Put them in the SEC and they'd go 2-9," I can still hear them saying.
                Well A&M spanked OU and Mizzou got crushed by A&M. Not the same team, different Coaching Staff, starting rb, wr, lb, secondary. Don't tell me it's the same team
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                • Amoo316
                  MVP
                  • Mar 2010
                  • 3609

                  #293
                  Re: Is the SEC really that dominant or overrated???

                  Originally posted by BigDofBA
                  All I was saying is that the SEC schedule isn't always the gauntlet people say it is. That doesn't mean the SEC isn't the best conference.

                  I said OU would go 10-2 or 9-3 with Bama's schedule yet my prediction with their current schedule is 8-4 or 7-5 in the Big 12. Basically, their Big 12 schedule is tougher than it would be if they traded places with Bama. And again, that's nothing against Bama, it's just for the point of debate.

                  Of course, some years are going to be tougher than others but it's like that in any conference.

                  Your points about rivalry games are valid but Oklahoma State comes into the year a top 15 team and just won the Fiesta bowl two seasons ago. Auburn had a horrific year last year. I would much rather play at Auburn "this" season than at OSU.
                  You and I are on the same page here, but it's worth mentioning again that Auburn didn't have Gus last year and lost a TON of talent after the MNC year due to NFL, Transfers, Stupid....etc. There is still a TON of talent on that team. Their problem was the administration chose poorly when they thought Chizik had anything to do with their success.
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                  • Husker_OS
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                    • Jun 2003
                    • 21459

                    #294
                    Re: Is the SEC really that dominant or overrated???

                    I root for the SEC in OOC games probably 60% of the time. When the system is all about perception you need your conference to win certain games(mostly the ones against quality OOC teams). If LSU loses to Oregon or West Virginia then that will lessen the significance of Alabama's potential win over LSU.

                    In an era where 1 loss doesn't keep you out of the race you need all the "quality" wins you can get. Had LSU lost to West Virginia or Oregon in 2011 then it may have kept Alabama out of the national title game.
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                    • BigDofBA
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                      • Aug 2002
                      • 9066

                      #295
                      Re: Is the SEC really that dominant or overrated???

                      Originally posted by Husker_OS
                      I root for the SEC in OOC games probably 60% of the time. When the system is all about perception you need your conference to win certain games(mostly the ones against quality OOC teams). If LSU loses to Oregon or West Virginia then that will lessen the significance of Alabama's potential win over LSU.

                      In an era where 1 loss doesn't keep you out of the race you need all the "quality" wins you can get. Had LSU lost to West Virginia or Oregon in 2011 then it may have kept Alabama out of the national title game.
                      Those are probably true statements as well which is just sad.

                      I hate this system and my team has benefited from it as much if not more than anyone.
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                      • bkrich83
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                        • Jul 2002
                        • 71582

                        #296
                        Re: Is the SEC really that dominant or overrated???

                        Originally posted by BigDofBA
                        I hate this system and my team has benefited from it as much if not more than anyone.
                        Same here. Love watching college football and the matchups, but let's face it, with this system it's a championship in name only, and in reality is nothing more than a beauty contest. Calling it a "national title" does the game and it's fans a disservice at this point.
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                        • Sportsforever
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                          • Mar 2005
                          • 20368

                          #297
                          Re: Is the SEC really that dominant or overrated???

                          Originally posted by bkrich83
                          Same here. Love watching college football and the matchups, but let's face it, with this system it's a championship in name only, and in reality is nothing more than a beauty contest. Calling it a "national title" does the game and it's fans a disservice at this point.
                          I honestly liked the old system more than the BCS. At least in the old system teams played good OOC and no one felt they had to politic their way into a 'championship' game.
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                          • bkrich83
                            Has Been
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 71582

                            #298
                            Re: Is the SEC really that dominant or overrated???

                            Originally posted by Sportsforever
                            I honestly liked the old system more than the BCS. At least in the old system teams played good OOC and no one felt they had to politic their way into a 'championship' game.
                            Agreed. Although years like '91 where Washington and Miami were clearly the class of college football world, and had no chance to meet in the post season sucked.

                            Let's hope next year is the first step in what would be several steps in legitimizing the "National Championship".

                            I still do laugh at the notion that people have that the BCS makes every game count in the regular season and that a playoff would devalue regular season games. That's EXACTLY what the BCS ended up doing.
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                            • Gibbz
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                              • Aug 2005
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                              #299
                              Re: Is the SEC really that dominant or overrated???

                              Coming from someone who despises most of the teams in the conference, SEC by an enormous margin.

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                              • boneyard40
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                                • Aug 2013
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                                #300
                                Re: Is the SEC really that dominant or overrated???

                                their are alot of good games in other conferences that dont get reconized by the media.i believe the sec is media driven not that their are no good teams their are just as many good teams and games elsewhere

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