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  • Jr.
    Playgirl Coverboy
    • Feb 2003
    • 19171

    #31
    Re: Week 12 Discussion

    Almost a nuclear day in CFB, but Michigan and TCU escaped
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    • jeebs9
      Fear is the Unknown
      • Oct 2008
      • 47568

      #32
      Re: Week 12 Discussion

      Caleb Williams... They need to tell him to put his mouth piece in on all plays. He leaves it out when it's a run play.
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      • KSUowls
        All Star
        • Jul 2009
        • 5891

        #33
        Re: Week 12 Discussion

        Not going to pretend like I expected USCe to win, but I just had a gut feeling that something weird could happen in that game after all the close games earlier.

        We can eliminate Tennessee, UCLA and North Carolina from playoff contention.

        If Auburn, Missouri and Vanderbilt all pull out upsets next week then the entire SEC would be bowl eligible. Minus Texas A&M of course lol.

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        • p_rushing
          Hall Of Fame
          • Feb 2004
          • 14514

          #34
          Re: Week 12 Discussion

          Originally posted by KSUowls
          Not going to pretend like I expected USCe to win, but I just had a gut feeling that something weird could happen in that game after all the close games earlier.



          We can eliminate Tennessee, UCLA and North Carolina from playoff contention.



          If Auburn, Missouri and Vanderbilt all pull out upsets next week then the entire SEC would be bowl eligible. Minus Texas A&M of course lol.
          And they could potentially be completely left out of the playoff, it would be glorious.

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          • jeebs9
            Fear is the Unknown
            • Oct 2008
            • 47568

            #35
            Re: Week 12 Discussion

            Broadcast took a turn



            "Keep my wife name out your mouth" moment.
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            • LowerWolf
              Hall Of Fame
              • Jun 2006
              • 12270

              #36
              Re: Week 12 Discussion

              Torn ACL for Hooker. That’s going to hurt his draft stock.

              What a disaster of a night.

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              • illwill10
                Hall Of Fame
                • Mar 2009
                • 19827

                #37
                Re: Week 12 Discussion

                I think UGA is safe for CFP regardless if LSU wins the SEC title. Winner of OSU/UM obviously gets #2. If the game is close, I think the loser still has a chance at #4.
                I think TCU should be able to since they close out against ISU and likely KSU. But I can see them getting screwed out of it. If USC can beat ND and Oregon, that might sway some votes. But TCU would have 6 wins against ranked opponents if they beat KSU again in conference championship. Even if LSU were to upset UGA, I wouldn't want to see a 2 loss team over TCU. I would be okay if it was USC. Don't like they're schedule. They almost need statement wins against ND and Oregon to get in CFP.

                So, I think the 4 will likely remain the same. Outside of obvious upsets along the way, only thing that change it is the result of OSU/UM. As long as it is close and competitive, I think both teams are safe. I like they're schedules over USC and a 2 loss LSU team. But if it a blowout, I think the loser has a good chance of falling out.

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                • canes21
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 22930

                  #38
                  Re: Week 12 Discussion

                  Pick 4 teams from the following group. The ACC champ, B1G champ, Big 12 champ, PAC champ, SEC champ. That's 5 teams there. Figure out which 4 are the most deserving once the games are played. That is how simple it should be, but not how simple it likely will be.
                  “No one is more hated than he who speaks the truth.”


                  ― Plato

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                  • illwill10
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 19827

                    #39
                    Re: Week 12 Discussion

                    Originally posted by canes21
                    Pick 4 teams from the following group. The ACC champ, B1G champ, Big 12 champ, PAC champ, SEC champ. That's 5 teams there. Figure out which 4 are the most deserving once the games are played. That is how simple it should be, but not how simple it likely will be.
                    I do like the idea of stressing winning your power conference and being in the CFP. But I can see scenarios where the Big 12 and PAC champ has 2 losses. It kind of falls into play this season. Let's say the OSU/UM is a one possession victory, let's say 27-24. Good chance that the loser drops to #4. Should that one loss OSU/UM team make it over USC if USC beats ranked ND and Oregon. I think have 3 consecutive wins over three top 20 ranked teams should propel them over the loser of OSU/UM. I think OSU could withstand the loss more than Michigan. Michigan only played 1 ranked team before next week. If Corum can't play, that changes things.

                    Wouldn't mind seeing UGA, OSU/UM, TCU, USC for CFP. That way one for each conference. UGA would obviously be the favorite, but fun not to see a SEC dominated CFP

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                    • canes21
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Sep 2008
                      • 22930

                      #40
                      Re: Week 12 Discussion

                      Originally posted by illwill10
                      I do like the idea of stressing winning your power conference and being in the CFP. But I can see scenarios where the Big 12 and PAC champ has 2 losses. It kind of falls into play this season. Let's say the OSU/UM is a one possession victory, let's say 27-24. Good chance that the loser drops to #4. Should that one loss OSU/UM team make it over USC if USC beats ranked ND and Oregon. I think have 3 consecutive wins over three top 20 ranked teams should propel them over the loser of OSU/UM. I think OSU could withstand the loss more than Michigan. Michigan only played 1 ranked team before next week. If Corum can't play, that changes things.

                      Wouldn't mind seeing UGA, OSU/UM, TCU, USC for CFP. That way one for each conference. UGA would obviously be the favorite, but fun not to see a SEC dominated CFP
                      I see where you're coming from. I'm just always going to be on the side of the fence that only wants conference champs in the playoffs while it is at 4 teams. Your first shot at the playoffs is winning your conference. If you can't even do that, I personally don't think you earned a playoff spot.
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                      ― Plato

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                      • illwill10
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 19827

                        #41
                        Re: Week 12 Discussion

                        Originally posted by canes21
                        I see where you're coming from. I'm just always going to be on the side of the fence that only wants conference champs in the playoffs while it is at 4 teams. Your first shot at the playoffs is winning your conference. If you can't even do that, I personally don't think you earned a playoff spot.
                        Don't disagree with that. If LSU took care of business and beat FSU, they would be in the mix. Even if they upset UGA, they're not likely getting in without upsets ahead of them.

                        I like USC next year if they can get Addison to return next year. If they can attack the transfer portal and attack their holes on defense and a playmaker here and there, I like their chances next year

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                        • KSUowls
                          All Star
                          • Jul 2009
                          • 5891

                          #42
                          Re: Week 12 Discussion

                          All or nearly all (depending how the last 2 games play out) controversy could be avoided by a conference championship requirement for the CFP. I also say any controversy is irrelevant because teams had their shut to control their destiny. That number is down to 4, and only 3 of them can finish undefeated.

                          If all 3 finished undefeated then they should be in no matter what.

                          That being said our current system does have a lot of variables that should be interesting to see play out.

                          UGA...I'm 99% sure that they are in no matter what happens in the SECCG. 2 blowout wins against Oregon and Tennessee plus dominating most of their schedule. It's going to be hard to keep them out even if LSU wins. So the SECCG is pretty much pointless. (another problem with CFP births not tied to conference championships).

                          Mich/OSU...the winner of that game is almost certainly in. The winner will play a vastly inferior opponent in the B1G title game. Though this could hurt them if they trip up since it's a game that they should win easily and result in a bigger perception penalty.
                          -I'm less confident that the loser of the Mich/OSU game is still in the CFP than I was a few weeks ago, but I don't think that they are out. They will likely need some help though.


                          TCU...if they win out then they are in. I'm not sure if they can survive any losses though. Many of their wins are close, and as the rankings currently stand their schedule is not impressive.

                          USC & Clemson both are interesting with somewhat similar circumstances. I tend to think that 1 of them will be in, but they are both so flawed they could be left out in a few scenarios.

                          Clemson got blown out, have not been dominant in most of their wins, and they lack much in the way of top 25 wins. NC losing to GT this past week also hurts them since they won't have a chance to beat a top 13 team. USC having beaten their mutual opponent ND could spell doom for them as well.

                          USC, repeat everything that I said about Clemson except the blowout loss. Lot's of close wins and a schedule that has arguably been easier than even Clemson's as they avoided both Washington and Oregon (though they will play one of them in the conference title game). I think that a win over ND gives them the edge though.


                          The only 2 loss team that I think has even a prayer is LSU. I think they need a lot of other dominoes to fall even if they beat Georgia though. (I'm not giving North Carolina, Oregon or Washington a chance. IMO the teams that they would be beating in Clemson/USC are already on shaky ground.)

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                          • LowerWolf
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Jun 2006
                            • 12270

                            #43
                            Re: Week 12 Discussion
                            • Georgia is in unless it somehow loses to both Georgia Tech and LSU.
                            • The winner of Ohio State-Michigan is in. I don't think the Big 10 title game will matter.
                            • TCU is in if it wins out.
                            • USC is in if it wins out since it will finish the season with wins over UCLA, Notre Dame and (I'm assuming) Oregon (sorry, Tovarich).


                            The loser of Ohio State-Michigan is in a pretty good spot if TCU or USC loses. Chaos may ensue if both TCU and USC lose.

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                            • illwill10
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Mar 2009
                              • 19827

                              #44
                              Re: Week 12 Discussion

                              Originally posted by LowerWolf
                              • Georgia is in unless it somehow loses to both Georgia Tech and LSU.
                              • The winner of Ohio State-Michigan is in. I don't think the Big 10 title game will matter.
                              • TCU is in if it wins out.
                              • USC is in if it wins out since it will finish the season with wins over UCLA, Notre Dame and (I'm assuming) Oregon (sorry, Tovarich).


                              The loser of Ohio State-Michigan is in a pretty good spot if TCU or USC loses. Chaos may ensue if both TCU and USC lose.
                              I can see that playing out. I can see USC losing one of the next 2 games. I watched parts of several USC games. They have a tendency to start slow at times. I still think they're a "year away". They're losing 3 SR HBs, so they'll likely go after a transfer RB. Also need to plug up holes in the defense.

                              I see TCU winning out. If USC loses a game, that pencils in the loser of OSU/UM. I can see a doomsday situation where USC and TCU losses, UGA beats LSU, and Clemson loss. Would the loser of OSU/UM make it over Alabama. I think Bama is the next up if all those teams loses.

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                              • Jr.
                                Playgirl Coverboy
                                • Feb 2003
                                • 19171

                                #45
                                Re: Week 12 Discussion

                                Originally posted by illwill10
                                I can see that playing out. I can see USC losing one of the next 2 games. I watched parts of several USC games. They have a tendency to start slow at times. I still think they're a "year away". They're losing 3 SR HBs, so they'll likely go after a transfer RB. Also need to plug up holes in the defense.

                                I see TCU winning out. If USC loses a game, that pencils in the loser of OSU/UM. I can see a doomsday situation where USC and TCU losses, UGA beats LSU, and Clemson loss. Would the loser of OSU/UM make it over Alabama. I think Bama is the next up if all those teams loses.
                                A 1 loss Ohio State or Michigan absolutely makes it in over Bama.
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