Week 12 Discussion Thread

[Sportsforever]

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I figured Missouri had Florida beat and turned back to Washington-Oregon State. Now I turn back to find Florida back ahead.

Edit: How do you not cover Burden on 4th and 17?

Florida’s defense is terrible; they have no idea what they are doing playing zone. Just a heartbreaking loss….


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[LowerWolf]

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LOL. I don't think I've ever seen it go from post-game interview with the coach to "hold up, there's a second left."

It would be wild if Florida somehow got a miracle here.

[illwill10]

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Penix should have the Heisman on lock. Nix probably has a chance if he can look great against Oregon State and outperform Penix in the PAC-12 championship. Harrison would have to put up absurd numbers against Michigan and Iowa to have a chance

[legendkiller5]

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What a gritty, tough win against a good football team by UW.

I imagine they finally jump FSU in next week’s rankings.

Good win for Texas, as well. Missouri got lucky.

[southernmetalhead]

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The last play of the FSU game was hilarious.

North Alabama called a timeout to kick a field goal when losing 52-13 instead of just letting the clock run out. Florida State blocked the field goal and ran it back for a touchdown as time expired.

[Jr.]

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Penix should have the Heisman on lock. Nix probably has a chance if he can look great against Oregon State and outperform Penix in the PAC-12 championship. Harrison would have to put up absurd numbers against Michigan and Iowa to have a chance

Give me Jaylen Daniels

[Jr.]

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If Washington, Oregon, Georgia, Bama, Texas, and Ohio State/Michigan all finish 11-1 with 2 undefeated teams, the last two spots are going to be really interesting picks

[LowerWolf]

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If Washington, Oregon, Georgia, Bama, Texas, and Ohio State/Michigan all finish 11-1 with 2 undefeated teams, the last two spots are going to be really interesting picks

I posted in last week's thread that with a 12-team playoff the field would essentially be set other than seeding. But there's potential for a lot of drama these next two weeks with a four-team playoff. It should be fun.

Edit: I love thinking about different scenarios.

Big 10 champion
The Michigan/Ohio State winner should beat Iowa and get one spot. Hard to see a path for the loser making it.

SEC champion
If Alabama beats Georgia then at most there would be three undefeated teams. A one-loss, SEC champion Alabama is getting in. A Big 12 champion Texas would have a case, but the committee isn't leaving a one-loss SEC champion Alabama out. Georgia is obviously in with a win, but could very well be left out with a loss.

Pac 12 champion
An undefeated Washington is obviously in. A one-loss Oregon that avenges its only loss is getting in. The irony is sweet that Washington State and Oregon State can potentially screw the Pac 12 next weekend.

ACC champion
Florida State is in if it stays undefeated. It will be favored to beat Florida and Louisville, but things just got dicier with Travis out. And the Florida game is at The Swamp. Louisville has been a great story, but I think it needs chaos to get in, even if it beats Kentucky and then FSU to win the ACC.

That leaves Texas on the outside looking in, unless it gets some help. Texas isn't going to jump an undefeated team and it's not going to jump a one-loss Oregon. And, despite the head-to-head win, it likely gets jumped by a one-loss, SEC champion Alabama. So Texas really needs FSU to lose and, just to be safe, wants Georgia to win the SEC.

[jeebs9]

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ugh, snap over the punter's head for the safety was the only difference in the game

LSU has Daniels in the game up 35 with 9 minutes to go throwing TD passes? Trying to make sure he got 6 TD's like Nix?

Whatever it takes [emoji23]

Finished with 8TD last night

https://youtu.be/hKi0mSoVZMM?si=D05XdDfRCMpGk16c

[illwill10]

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Give me Jaylen Daniels

I think the only thing that hurts Daniels is the 8-3 record. Besides leaving with an injury against Bama, he performed well in the other two losses. When you consider that Nix and Penix had similarly good seasons, undefeated or 1 loss, in a good conference, it's hard to bet against them

[jasontoddwhitt]

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One trip around UK Twitter last night/this morning, and the wick is getting turned up on Mark Stoops. Dane Key's father and Ray Davis' father tweeted some critical things. Then Ray Davis tweeted a critical comment about the number of carries he got.

I'm not on the Fire Stoops bandwagon, but we are staring at a 6-6 season, the second straight season that didn't meet expectations. Seems like this team cratered after his "pony up" comments. We need to develop a QB in the system instead of grabbing one from the transfer portal. That could be the plan with 4-star Cutter Boley coming in next season.

But another season like the last two could spell disaster for Stoops.

[Jr.]

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I think the only thing that hurts Daniels is the 8-3 record. Besides leaving with an injury against Bama, he performed well in the other two losses. When you consider that Nix and Penix had similarly good seasons, undefeated or 1 loss, in a good conference, it's hard to bet against them

Possibly, but guys have won it in the past with multiple losses. I don't know the stats of all 3, but he's reminded me of Cam's season with how he's had to do everything for that offense

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[KSUowls]

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One trip around UK Twitter last night/this morning, and the wick is getting turned up on Mark Stoops. Dane Key's father and Ray Davis' father tweeted some critical things. Then Ray Davis tweeted a critical comment about the number of carries he got.

I'm not on the Fire Stoops bandwagon, but we are staring at a 6-6 season, the second straight season that didn't meet expectations. Seems like this team cratered after his "pony up" comments. We need to develop a QB in the system instead of grabbing one from the transfer portal. That could be the plan with 4-star Cutter Boley coming in next season.

But another season like the last two could spell disaster for Stoops.

It's hard with Stoops. I get it from the perspective of wanting to be better (I faced that with Richt), but Kentucky has never been good at football outside of a handfull of 3-4 year windows, mostly half a century ago. Stoops run at Kentucky has been the most successful in their history, but it's a situation where there will be some really good years of being around a top 10 team and some not so good years of just barely being bowl eligible.

On the other hand, I look at Louisville who, while not necessarily a national title contender, has been a legitimate threat for periods over the last 20 years. Kentucky certainly has not enjoyed the ACC and Big East schedules that Louisville has had, but we have also just seen a different talent level that each school has been able to bring in. So, I've always wondered why Kentucky couldn't be similar.

[KSUowls]

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Possibly, but guys have won it in the past with multiple losses. I don't know the stats of all 3, but he's reminded me of Cam's season with how he's had to do everything for that offense

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Guys have won it with multiple losses, but not many. In the 2000's, the only guys who have won it on teams with 3+ losses are Tebow (2007) and RG3 (2011). In Tebow's case, it probably helped that the runner up was Arkansas' Mcfadden whose team was no where near the BCS picture. RG3's runner up was Andrew Luck from 10-1 Stanford team though so it's not completely unheard of.

All of that said. If the trophy were to be given to the most outstanding performer of the season then the answer is Daniels.

Daniels ranks #3 in passing yards, #1 in passing touchdowns, #1 in QB rating, #1 in rushing yards by a QB, #6 in rushing TDs by a QB.
There are only 25 players in FBS with 1000+ rushing yards this season. Daniels is one of them, and the next closest QB on that list plays for Army with 200 fewer yards in their triple option attack.

Penix and Nix both have impressive stat lines, Daniels has just been better. Penix is the nation's leader in passing yards (beating Daniels by about 100 yards), but he does not do anything with his legs. His overall QB rating also trails Daniels's due to having more interceptions and a lower completion percentage. Nix only trails Daniels by about 50 yards passing, only has 2 picks on the season, trails Daniels' FBS leading 36 TD passes by just 1, and he has an extremely impressive completion percentage near 80%. So, from a passing standpoint he's right there with Daniels, but he only is about 10% of the statistical runner than Daniels has been.

[jeebs9]

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I say Penix best player in best team or Daniels best stats on ok team.