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  • Scott
    Your Go-to TV Expert
    • Jul 2002
    • 20030

    #841
    Re: NCAA Football 09 Demo Available: Discuss Here

    Anybody notice when the CPU calls an audible and goes into a new formation, the OLine is completely messed up? Like the A gap will be free between the Center & RG. I remember it looking like this....

    TE LT....... LG.. C....... RG.. RT
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    • nstod
      Rookie
      • Jul 2002
      • 338

      #842
      Re: NCAA Football 09 Demo Available: Discuss Here

      Originally posted by Blazelore
      Anyone else notice throwing an out that sometimes the receiver will drag his feet and fall when he's like 2 yards from being out of bounds?? When it happens when your close to the sideline cool but when you have that much distance between you I can see a problem. I could see it already...you down and out and make a throw trying to get in the endzone he catches it and falls down even though you could have turn up field for those extra 5 yards to get in the endzone.
      Yep, cost me the game once. Instead of going out of bounds, we ran out of time before a game winning FG try.

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      • Solidice
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        • Jul 2006
        • 9925

        #843
        Re: NCAA Football 09 Demo Available: Discuss Here

        Originally posted by Scott
        Anybody notice when the CPU calls an audible and goes into a new formation, the OLine is completely messed up? Like the A gap will be free between the Center & RG. I remember it looking like this....

        TE LT....... LG.. C....... RG.. RT
        looks like they are trying to line up in the Texas Tech o-line stance and messed up.
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        • Anti Honor
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          • Feb 2007
          • 474

          #844
          Re: NCAA Football 09 Demo Available: Discuss Here

          Originally posted by kt-od
          2. What I care about is gameplay, presentation, and atmosphere. I want to experience NCAA as if I was actually at the game. I would love to see all actual team entrances. i.e Clemson touching Howards rock and running down the hill. To see all the styles of facemasks and helmets.

          But I think the point of putting out a new game every year is to improve from the previous year. I think EA is making a step in the right direction, and I feel confident that we will all be happy and get what we want in NCAA Football in the next few years.
          If I thought the demo game play was any good whatsoever, I wouldn't have called it trash. Look, all I want and expect from these games is a good CPU AI, so my nephew and I can enjoy a franchise together. How many years is it going to take EA to realize that their CPU AI is about as intelligent as a mentally ******** circus midget? I don't use ANY of the fancy little buttons that you guys use - I play a straight up, boring style of football, so the CPU can at least look somewhat decent.. and so far with these next gen games, there isn't anything I can do, to make them play even an average style of football.. I rarely use more than two corners, even when they decide to bring out 4+ WRs (same with madden.) I use linebackers, hoping that maybe they'll expose me - doesn't happen.

          I have to make up in game rules for our franchises, to keep things from getting out of hand (Both NCAA and Madden). My nephew is 15 years old, and I'm 30 - I consider us below average players who would get murdered against just about any person on this forum, if we played online. My nephew is even worse, yet he makes the CPU look like cupcakes.

          Some of us are in the same boat, so I ask you, and I ask the guy from EA - Who do I have to contact to get you guys to put a little time into the CPU AI? Instead, I get cheerleaders, fancy stadiums, and my player will look like Donovan Mcnabb. Gee, how thrilling.

          I don't want to pick the CPU off 4 times per game, I don't want to run 3 of those back for touchdowns - My nephew and I actually HAD to stepped out of bounds after every pick. I want the CPU to expose my mistakes, and make me pull my hair out in frustration, because I can't win.

          The CPU AI is terrible, it's beyond terrible.. and to me, that's the only game play that matters, so in my eyes - the game play stinks. And boy, you can ask the same question 50x, and they'll avoid you at any costs, whenever it comes to the CPU AI.

          I mean, if this isn't going to be the case for NCAA/Madden '09 - They made my year. I have my doubts, though.. I see another 2 franchises/dynasties and done.
          Last edited by Anti Honor; 06-20-2008, 05:07 PM.

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          • Scott
            Your Go-to TV Expert
            • Jul 2002
            • 20030

            #845
            Re: NCAA Football 09 Demo Available: Discuss Here

            Originally posted by Solidice
            looks like they are trying to line up in the Texas Tech o-line stance and messed up.
            I've only seen in two times in like 16 games. But still, It should get fixed because the B gap & A gap are free and the Lineman just explode through it.
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            • Skyboxer
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              • Jul 2002
              • 20302

              #846
              Re: NCAA Football 09 Demo Available: Discuss Here

              Originally posted by DookieMowf
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              • DGuinta1
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                • Aug 2004
                • 2706

                #847
                Re: NCAA Football 09 Demo Available: Discuss Here

                I wish you would see players congratulate and cheer each other after a positive play or help another up off the turf.
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                • Scott
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                  • Jul 2002
                  • 20030

                  #848
                  Re: NCAA Football 09 Demo Available: Discuss Here

                  Originally posted by DGuinta1
                  I wish you would see players congratulate and cheer each other after a positive play or help another up off the turf.
                  That would be a great little addition.
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                  • Phobia
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Jan 2008
                    • 11623

                    #849
                    Re: NCAA Football 09 Demo Available: Discuss Here

                    Originally posted by DGuinta1
                    I wish you would see players congratulate and cheer each other after a positive play or help another up off the turf.
                    I like how after a TD you can run up to your players instead of the mascot and have a celebrat animation.

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                    • DGuinta1
                      MVP
                      • Aug 2004
                      • 2706

                      #850
                      Re: NCAA Football 09 Demo Available: Discuss Here

                      Originally posted by Phobia
                      I like how after a TD you can run up to your players instead of the mascot and have a celebrat animation.
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                      • kt-od
                        MVP
                        • Feb 2008
                        • 2353

                        #851
                        Re: NCAA Football 09 Demo Available: Discuss Here

                        Originally posted by Anti Honor
                        If I thought the demo game play was any good whatsoever, I wouldn't have called it trash. Look, all I want and expect from these games is a good CPU AI, so my nephew and I can enjoy a franchise together. How many years is it going to take EA to realize that their CPU AI is about as intelligent as a mentally ******** circus midget? I don't use ANY of the fancy little buttons that you guys use - I play a straight up, boring style of football, so the CPU can at least look somewhat decent.. and so far with these next gen games, there isn't anything I can do, to make them play even an average style of football.. I rarely use more than two corners, even when they decide to bring out 4+ WRs (same with madden.) I use linebackers, hoping that maybe they'll expose me - doesn't happen.

                        I have to make up in game rules for our franchises, to keep things from getting out of hand (Both NCAA and Madden). My nephew is 15 years old, and I'm 30 - I consider us below average players who would get murdered against just about any person on this forum, if we played online. My nephew is even worse, yet he makes the CPU look like cupcakes.

                        Some of us are in the same boat, so I ask you, and I ask the guy from EA - Who do I have to contact to get you guys to put a little time into the CPU AI? Instead, I get cheerleaders, fancy stadiums, and my player will look like Donovan Mcnabb. Gee, how thrilling.

                        I don't want to pick the CPU off 4 times per game, I don't want to run 3 of those back for touchdowns - My nephew and I actually HAD to stepped out of bounds after every pick. I want the CPU to expose my mistakes, and make me pull my hair out in frustration, because I can't win.

                        The CPU AI is terrible, it's beyond terrible.. and to me, that's the only game play that matters, so in my eyes - the game play stinks. And boy, you can ask the same question 50x, and they'll avoid you at any costs, whenever it comes to the CPU AI.

                        I mean, if this isn't going to be the case for NCAA/Madden '09 - They made my year. I have my doubts, though.. I see another 2 franchises/dynasties and done.
                        So are you saying the the AI in the current gen systems is much better? If so I have to disagree. I have been playing EA NCAA football every year since 03. I don't think it has ever been as awesome as you want above, and not even sure it's possible.

                        I'm a gamer like you and around the same age. I would probably get murdered by everyone online. I have never played one game in my life where the AI is spot on. I talking about shooter games, sports games, role playing, etc... The whole point of AI is to get it as close to the intelligence of real players as possible. I think EA has gotten better every year. That's why it's called "Artificial Intelligence". Because it's impossible to make it render as 'Real Intelligence' on a video game.

                        I'm not trying to be rude. And I totally see your point. I just think what you might be wanting is not available yet.
                        Last edited by kt-od; 06-20-2008, 05:19 PM.
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                        • ODogg
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                          • Feb 2003
                          • 37953

                          #852
                          Re: NCAA Football 09 Demo Available: Discuss Here

                          Originally posted by kt-od
                          So are you saying the the AI in the current gen systems is much better? If so I have to disagree. I have been playing EA NCAA football every year since 03. I don't think it has ever been as awesome as you want above, and not even sure it's possible.

                          I'm a gamer like you and around the same age. I would probably get murdered by everyone online. I have never played one game in my life where the AI is spot on. I talking about shooter games, sports games, role playing, etc... The whole point of AI is to get it as close to the intelligence of real players as possible. I think EA has gotten better every year. That's why it's called "Artificial Intelligence". Because it's impossible to make it REAL on a video game.
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                          • Solidice
                            Guns Up!
                            • Jul 2006
                            • 9925

                            #853
                            Re: NCAA Football 09 Demo Available: Discuss Here

                            Originally posted by DGuinta1
                            I wish you would see players congratulate and cheer each other after a positive play or help another up off the turf.
                            that is the game. in the videos i have seen, sometimes even a player on the opposite team will help him up.
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                            • kt-od
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                              • Feb 2008
                              • 2353

                              #854
                              Re: NCAA Football 09 Demo Available: Discuss Here

                              Originally posted by ODogg
                              QFT - If you want intelligence then play a human...well depends on who you play I guess, LOL!
                              What does QFT mean? Also, I hope your not making a crack at me. I was just making a point that it's impossible to have real human intelligence in a video game. And I think he was wanting the AI to be as intelligent as a human.
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                              • DGuinta1
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                                • Aug 2004
                                • 2706

                                #855
                                Re: NCAA Football 09 Demo Available: Discuss Here

                                Originally posted by Solidice
                                that is the game. in the videos i have seen, sometimes even a player on the opposite team will help him up.
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