NCAA Football 09 Demo Available: Discuss Here

[a4reak]

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We also have school specific celebrations. I think it is on the Y (Triangle for PS3?) button. I know that UCF has the player make the UCF letters with his arms. Not sure the Ohio State or LSU has one. I would guess he'd do a Gator chomp as Florida, or shoot pistols as Oklahoma State. Give it a try. I'm 99.9% sure it is the Y button.

thanks I will give it a shot, im still trying to get the convoy celebration, do you press anything to trigger that?

[OMT]

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I meant more in the fact that you all seemed to have the budget to do it back then and not now, but enough of that since next-gen has brought a major upgrade, especially in the visuals.

By no means, do I think this is a simple feature that you all could get done. Honestly, I appreciate the work you've been doing by coming on here and catching flack while answering a lot of our questions.

From my viewpoint a lot of people want the presentation (coaches, entrances, sideline interactions and whatnot) more than they want anything else at this moment (I say this because 09 has yet to drop) and I feel as if it'll surely feel like a college football game if such was seen.

I wouldn't mind seeing ESPN implemented like they were on the past gen consoles where the score tracker would run across the bottom.

And in sake of the demo, were my eyes playing with me when I saw the screen shake somewhat while playing in the swamp?

Ok, since you understand that we still only have a finite amount of time to make the game. We'd love to do entrances, and we are looking at it again right now. But this year we went with online dynasty. People were wondering why haven't done this yet... the reason is that it was such a big feature, it was always looked at the feature that would take away from improving all the other aspects of the game... IE we'd have to put all our resources getting it in and everything else would be the same. That wouldn't sell many copies. This is America... sales are the name of the game, right?

Everyone on NCAA this year did a hell of a job to get Online Dynasty in and at the same time, improve the look and feel of the game overall. It really was quite an accomplishment and NCAA 09 is a great game because of it. We knew when/if we did Online Dynasty the game would otherwise be feature light.... however, we'd get it out of the way and be able to add features for years to come as the online dynasty stuff was out of the way. We took that hit this year and the game turned out wonderful in spite of it!

[Memberz_09]

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For the Xbox 360 I think its (B) to do celebrations! I wish yall would add the Pig Sooie chant at Arkansas games that would be cool!

[Jmustang1968]

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Unfortunately, we can't port that over. The old gen artwork does NOT work on next gen. It would take 1000+ hours to port it and it would look like crap because the art is not as hi resolution.

Adding team entrances was a big job back then. On next gen it is a bigger job. Look... we really DO want it. It is just a VERY expensive feature. We could have put it in 09 and people would button through and then post on OS that we should have online dynasty by now. But we couldn't get both in one year. We went with online dynasty.

You are entitled to disagree with our decisions. There is nothing wrong with it. Just please don't think this is a simple feature. It is an extremely complicated task. We CAN do it, we will just have to cut other stuff we want to do to make it happen.

Will it be in 2010? It could very well be! We are weighing the pros and cons of all the stuff we want, including entrances, right now. We'll put together our wish list, estimate how much work all of it will take, compare it to our budget, cut accordingly, and have a feature set ready for development in a couple months. Then we hit the ground running!

I totally agree here and am very happy you guys chose online dynasty over the entrances or anything else in fact. It was my number one feature I have been waiting for. I dont see what all the fuss over entrances and pregame stuff is about. To me its all about gameplay and gameplay features. Like you said, I watch each entry once or twice, then button through to get to the real part of the game: the actual gameplay.

[drlw322]

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Can you expound on those bugs a little more? Unless the tester used those exact words in the bug, it won't come up in a search. Give me enough description so I know what keywords to use in the search.

As far as which version to get... PS3 or 360... the games are identical. There may be some Six Axis support for PS3 but I don't know as my PS3 kit was jacked by Greg earlier in the project! Since I work with the art assets a lot, I need to be able to take screenshots which I can do on 360 by clicking both analog sticks at the same time. PS3 kits don't support screenshots for whatever reason. (no.. you can't click both sticks on 360 for a screenshot on the retail version... you need a dev kit to do that).

But to make a long story short, get the version your friends will be getting so you can play online dynasty with them. If you're like me and don't have any friends that play the game, get a PS3 version cause we need the PS3 sales boost

these bugs are on the ps3 version none are on the 360 demo

1. when your QB walks up to the line. he would get behind the center and all of a sudden slide slightly to the left or right of the center. so the animation shows the QB in a ready to rec'd the snap pose but in between the center and the guard. ( it's a little irritating).

2. during any auto replays, it looks like the replay is so compress that on passing plays, while the ball is in the air there is no rotation to the ball and it warps to the receiver's hands.

3. while in auto replays, when all the player run they look like string puppets with tangling legs moving back and forth.

i love the demo by the way i thought you guys did a great job this year. love all the new animation you guys put in.

and my last game i heard corso say even william wallace from brave heart can't motivate those guys. that was pretty funny

[OMT]

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Playing against LSU they came out in the pistol formation but playing as them I can't seem to find a way to use that formation. Anyone have any ideas?

From what I know about the game... while limited it is still a lot... if a CPU controlled LSU team comes out in the pistol you will find that formation if you control LSU. It could be a bug that the demo assigns LSU the Nevada playbook. But I don't see any reason for that. The logical bug would be that LSU was given the team before or after it in the DB that playbook. Actually, if this was broken they'd most likely use the Airforce playbook as they are team 1 in the DB.

Have you checked the entire playbook for LSU for this? I'll remember to take a look on monday and if I don't see anything, I'll ask Anthony White. He'll be able to get to the bottom of this.

[OMT]

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I just realized this but instead of going to the mascot u can go to your teammates to celebrate...Nice

Just wanna make a comment on your signature. I have been playing Head Coach at the office a lot recently, and in my first year Brian Westbrook won MVP!!

[bad_philanthropy]

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From what I know about the game... while limited it is still a lot... if a CPU controlled LSU team comes out in the pistol you will find that formation if you control LSU. It could be a bug that the demo assigns LSU the Nevada playbook. But I don't see any reason for that. The logical bug would be that LSU was given the team before or after it in the DB that playbook. Actually, if this was broken they'd most likely use the Airforce playbook as they are team 1 in the DB.

Have you checked the entire playbook for LSU for this? I'll remember to take a look on monday and if I don't see anything, I'll ask Anthony White. He'll be able to get to the bottom of this.

Yeah I was actually looking for it when I first started the game, being an Oregon fan Gary Crowton used the pistol (and brought it to LSU last year) and couldn't find it so I just assumed it wasn't in. But then playing as Ohio State they came out in the pistol formation and the announcer even made mention of it and everything.

While I'm talking about the pistol. I saw in a screenshot Steve posted of Oregon lined up in the pistol in this year's game. Under Chip Kelly they operate exclusively out of the shotgun. Just a heads up. I don't know why I always notice things like this, I'm honestly not trying to make things difficult for you guys!

[OMT]

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thanks I will give it a shot, im still trying to get the convoy celebration, do you press anything to trigger that?

Not sure. I doubt it though. You probably need to have your teammates past the defense. If the logic works like commentary, which it probably does, then you need to have them past the defense after the 30 yard line I think.

[Psyblast]

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For the Xbox 360 I think its (B) to do celebrations! I wish yall would add the Pig Sooie chant at Arkansas games that would be cool!

You can put the chant in the game yourself with the Stadium Sounds feature.

[a4reak]

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Just wanna make a comment on your signature. I have been playing Head Coach at the office a lot recently, and in my first year Brian Westbrook won MVP!!

I cant help it if my prediction skills are that good. :wink:

[Dudd]

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Play calling end of game AI needs work too, the CPU will only take one knee and then runs a regular play even if you are out of timeouts and they can run it down to zero. They just went play action with ~25 seconds to go, just absurd.

[Memberz_09]

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You can put the chant in the game yourself with the Stadium Sounds feature.

Nvm I see it. Man this game is going to be the best of the series!!! Really!

[gator3guy]

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Imagine if this demo came out a little sooner and EA used us (the consumers) as game testers. I mean we have 113 pages of impressions. That kind of feedback would certainly help the final product. Just a thought.

[OMT]

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these bugs are on the ps3 version none are on the 360 demo

1. when your QB walks up to the line. he would get behind the center and all of a sudden slide slightly to the left or right of the center. so the animation shows the QB in a ready to rec'd the snap pose but in between the center and the guard. ( it's a little irritating).

2. during any auto replays, it looks like the replay is so compress that on passing plays, while the ball is in the air there is no rotation to the ball and it warps to the receiver's hands.

3. while in auto replays, when all the player run they look like string puppets with tangling legs moving back and forth.

i love the demo by the way i thought you guys did a great job this year. love all the new animation you guys put in.

and my last game i heard corso say even william wallace from brave heart can't motivate those guys. that was pretty funny

I'm sure they also happen on 360. I don't see why they wouldn't. All the PS3 specific work was to get it 60 fps. The guy who got that task is freaking brilliant BTW!

The stuff in the replays... I have learned recently from Simon Sherr (he has posted on the OS Madden forum) that we drop frames and do silly stuff for the replays. I'll take a look at it, but removing the ball rotation animation in replays may have been done on purpose.

I have never heard the William Wallace line, but I do remember seeing it when I was auditing the speech script. I'll take a look at when it plays cause if it is a common situation, it has to go. It is funny to hear once... twice it is a "well, it is a video game" thing... after that, it is a problem. Lines like this are what I mean when I refer to "memorable lines."

If Kirk says "the quarterback made a good throw there" that is a line to keep. If Kirk says "Can we get Tye or Josh in there at quarterback?" this is a line to remove. That was a line we added this year at Kirk's request. Tye and Josh (or maybe it is Jacob) are his twin boys. This line will play 20% of the time if it is the second half and you just threw your 6th interception. I figure if I post that here... ONE of you guys will try to get it to play! That will make Kirk happy.