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  • ehh
    Hall Of Fame
    • Mar 2003
    • 28959

    #61
    Re: Summer Storms: The NCAA Release Story

    Originally posted by Pared
    I look back and the NCAA series has always been heralded here at OS. NCAA 2004... 2005... I look at those games and don't recall them having all these issues... sure, they weren't perfect, but did almost all of the major new additions have problems, as well as the gameplay?
    Exactly, and the reason why these games weren't roasted like '09 (outside of '05) is because outside of the dropped passes glitch there were weren't any "broken" items in the games. Sure, the momentum meter and impact player may have been blown out of proportion and too effective but that's the way EA intended for it to work, it wasn't broken.

    As for the article, it is a complete slap in the face to the posters who come in here and put in a lot of effort to help make the game better and provide EA with what the problems are, basically making their jobs easier, yet are labeled as whiners and nitpickers in the article.

    the fact that people who dislike something are more vocal than people who actually care about it. Because if you were on the boards during all the impressions, or should I say complaints, then it became a little trying. Several die hards proclaimed the game was busted and that they wouldn’t be purchasing this year -- mind you this was still before the game was even officially released. Glitch after glitch began to surface, and as more and more people received their games, the question was how could this be going bad again after things looked so bright and promising?

    It shouldn’t come as a surprise though, reactions like these tend to happen when you mostly focus on the negatives. And with the masses getting the product and reporting on just the bad functions, overlooking any possibility of fun or happiness with the game, the forums became a bit of a downer to read.
    Those paragraphs are the biggest crock of BS I have ever read. Just look back over the history of releases on OS, when a game is good or great the masses will agree here. The base of OS vets only focus on the negative when they rightfully should, when it is overpowering the positives.

    Do you really think guys like AA don't care about the game and want the game to be bad? Do you think he was waiting for July 15 so he could open his copy of NCAA and jot down every possible bug he could find and only focus on the negatives? The guy was more pumped than anyone on the damn boards before it came out. The second EA drops a great football game guys like him will praise the ever living hell out of it.

    To think that gamers are focusing on negatives and not trying to enjoy the game when the basic foundation of the game is broken is such a load of BS. What if OS was the same as NCAA? The "submit reply" button worked once every five times you clicked it, the quote button simply never worked, when you voted in polls it didn't calculate the results properly, etc. Would you say, "Well, you can get in a post every once in a while so have fun with what ya got!"

    So to quote the article one more time, yes, myself and several other people will continue to trust "Average Joe" in the forum when it comes to impressions, what else are we suppose to do especially after seeing blatantly biased articles like this on the front page of OS?
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    • 867-5309
      Banned
      • Jul 2008
      • 114

      #62
      Re: Summer Storms: The NCAA Release Story

      Originally posted by Dudd
      How often do you read these guys stuff? I've been reading Bill Harris's blog since his gone gold days, and he is by far the best best reviewer of sports games out there. Just because someone is thorough and documents the problems with the game doesn't make them insane and impossible to please. He's posted glowing reviews of NHL 08, MLB the Show, just to name a few. Even when I disagree with him on games, I can see where he's coming from. Just like the article, it seems like you want to paint everyone who has problems with the game as some sort of masochistic bogeyman who can never be pleased, which is a load of crap and just obscures the fact that there are clearly real problems with this game.
      As long has they have been posting about the NCAA series on the internet.

      See I have been around awhile - I used to go by the name bdoughty, which saying that will get me banned, oh well.

      Speaking of the bogyman... Like Jason in Friday the 13th, I always pop up again.

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      • ChaseB
        #BringBackFaceuary
        • Oct 2003
        • 9838

        #63
        Re: Summer Storms: The NCAA Release Story

        Originally posted by Dudd
        How often do you read these guys stuff? I've been reading Bill Harris's blog since his gone gold days, and he is by far the best best reviewer of sports games out there. Just because someone is thorough and documents the problems with the game doesn't make them insane and impossible to please. He's posted glowing reviews of NHL 08, MLB the Show, just to name a few. Hell, he even liked last years game, even though I think he said he spent most of his time simming the actual games and focusing on recruiting. Even when I disagree with him on games, I can see where he's coming from. Just like the article, it seems like you want to paint everyone who has problems with the game as some sort of masochistic bogeyman who can never be pleased, which is a load of crap and just obscures the fact that there are clearly real problems with this game.
        Yea whenever I've been playing a game when Harris is I tend to agree with what he said. FYI, I think his big criticism of the Show this year was that the RttS was kind of messed up when you were a RP. Basically you would pitch almost every day when some sort of roster issue occurred.

        Originally posted by 867-5309
        As long has they have been posting about the NCAA series on the internet.

        See I have been around awhile - I used to go by the name bdoughty, which saying that will get me banned, oh well.

        Speaking of the bogyman... Like Jason in Friday the 13th, I always pop up again.
        Is the fact that you use a Tommy Tutone song as a user name a bannable offense?
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        • ChaseB
          #BringBackFaceuary
          • Oct 2003
          • 9838

          #64
          Re: Summer Storms: The NCAA Release Story

          Originally posted by ehh
          So to quote the article one more time, yes, myself and several other people will continue to trust "Average Joe" in the forum when it comes to impressions, what else are we suppose to do especially after seeing blatantly biased articles like this on the front page of OS?
          Like I said when I put forth my review philosophy a few posts ago, I agree with going this route in many cases -- hence why I think writing a review as simply a buy or don't buy is outdated thinking.

          People will always be skeptical and untrustworthy of certain things and so it's better to talk with the people you trust, whether that be a reviewer or the people you know on the forums.
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          • 867-5309
            Banned
            • Jul 2008
            • 114

            #65
            Re: Summer Storms: The NCAA Release Story

            Originally posted by ChaseB
            Is the fact that you use a Tommy Tutone song as a user name a bannable offense?
            I banned people for less.

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            • ChaseB
              #BringBackFaceuary
              • Oct 2003
              • 9838

              #66
              Re: Summer Storms: The NCAA Release Story

              Anyway, I'm heading out for now since I just DLed the Pixel Junk Eden demo (played it at E3 and it was flipping awesome). Also need to decide whether or not I should DL the Siren game.

              You're welcome to keep posting about all this and I'll be back later I'm sure to keep talking about it.
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              • Pared
                Legen - WAIT FOR IT
                • Feb 2003
                • 39337

                #67
                Re: Summer Storms: The NCAA Release Story

                Originally posted by ehh
                So to quote the article one more time, yes, myself and several other people will continue to trust "Average Joe" in the forum when it comes to impressions, what else are we suppose to do especially after seeing blatantly biased articles like this on the front page of OS?
                That's a great point. I know when some random user has acquired a copy of the game early I take their comments with a grain of salt...

                But when a solid, respected member here... comes and can discuss the game early to the community... and they have the ability to be objective... many forum members stand up and take notice.

                I know it isn't the same as a review, per se... but when it's held in a higher regard then a game review... I would think it should raise a red flag throughout the administration.

                But back to this article... I honestly feel it's the "straw that breaks the camels back" due to the frustration of this title... there's so much we want to enjoy about the game; However the rose-colored representation this game has seemingly been getting at OS has really worn thin amongst the community.

                Again, in my opinion. Anyone is free to disagree.
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                • callmetaternuts
                  All Star
                  • Jul 2004
                  • 7045

                  #68
                  Re: Summer Storms: The NCAA Release Story

                  It may be just my humble opinion, but with all due respect, these EA/NCAA articles have got to stop. We get one about every day and its like we're being force fed this stuff. Thats cool that we all have differing opinions, but if you look at the NCAA forum, there is more negative than positive, and to read an article like this, while it may be his opinion, just seems like its being written from a cave, or with his head in the sand. I dont mean to be a jerk, but cmon, thats like Ian posting where ever it was and saying something to the effect of "After all the knee-jerk reactions, its almost unanimous that everyone is enjoying the game" O really? Where are those people and how big of a sample did you take?

                  The game has some fantastic points and it has some awful, terrible points that shouldnt have made it past the first play through. It might sound whiny when some of us post, but we all spent our money on this, sure its 60 bucks big whoop, but this was a game that used to be fun, and now, its almost a chore to play. But the catch is, ITS THE ONLY NCAA GAME WE HAVE!

                  EA and NCAA are just a lightning rod for criticism right now, and it seems that with each day without more news combined with each new article like this, things are just getting more heated.

                  There are those of us who have been critical of the game, but rightfully so. We pay just as much as the people who love it and show sunshine down our throats. I know i have done my best to be respectful, but post the issues i have seen, which is alot. But ive also defended EA and Adam where needed. This isnt like we are out for blood for the sake of it. Alot of derive alot of joy from college football and want to take our team to glory and this is the only vehicle we have.

                  I dont know all of OS and MM's history. I dont think that OS is sponsored by EA or that we (i guess by we i mean OS) have a hidden agenda, but this sure does make people question that. How anyone can say that the response has been unanimous (either way) is beyond me, or to say we are on the verge of a perfect game makes no sense. With some changes and updates, yes, we MAY have a good game, but until that game gets in our hands, how can we know?

                  We know that all games have glitches, and i think most of us accept that, but a few glitches and every major new feature having glitches are two different scenarious. This isnt criticism just bc its EA, cmon. If ANY company put out a game like this, they would be roasted.

                  Id like to believe we are almost to the point of a great game. I went from ecstatic to get this on July 15th to almost dreading picking up the controller. I try to give this game a chance everyday, and i get disappointed. When was the last time the dynasty threads were so few? There arent any threads saying "Tell us about your dynasty" right now, and heck the impressions thread is almost dead at this point, that seems weird.

                  I can appreciate the candor of who ever wrote the article, and maybe they see something different, but lets keep all sides in play when we start discussing these things. Just seems like a good idea to let these articles die for a bit.....it obviously isnt helping anything.

                  And AA, im disappointed i wasnt mentioned on your little honor role a few pages back........for shame
                  Check out my Tampa Bay Buccaneers CFM Thread.

                  You too can be a 5* recruit at FSU.......

                  Originally posted by TwelveozPlaya21
                  add worthless Xavier Lee to that list..
                  Originally posted by MassNole
                  CFL here he comes. Pfft, wait that would require learning a playbook. McDonalds here he comes.

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                  • AuburnAlumni
                    War Eagle
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 11939

                    #69
                    Re: Summer Storms: The NCAA Release Story

                    Originally posted by ehh
                    Exactly, and the reason why these games weren't roasted like '09 (outside of '05) is because outside of the dropped passes glitch there were weren't any "broken" items in the games. Sure, the momentum meter and impact player may have been blown out of proportion and too effective but that's the way EA intended for it to work, it wasn't broken.

                    As for the article, it is a complete slap in the face to the posters who come in here and put in a lot of effort to help make the game better and provide EA with what the problems are, basically making their jobs easier, yet are labeled as whiners and nitpickers in the article.

                    Those paragraphs are the biggest crock of BS I have ever read. Just look back over the history of releases on OS, when a game is good or great the masses will agree here. The base of OS vets only focus on the negative when they rightfully should, when it is overpowering the positives.

                    Do you really think guys like AA don't care about the game and want the game to be bad? Do you think he was waiting for July 15 so he could open his copy of NCAA and jot down every possible bug he could find and only focus on the negatives? The guy was more pumped than anyone on the damn boards before it came out. The second EA drops a great football game guys like him will praise the ever living hell out of it.

                    To think that gamers are focusing on negatives and not trying to enjoy the game when the basic foundation of the game is broken is such a load of BS. What if OS was the same as NCAA? The "submit reply" button worked once every five times you clicked it, the quote button simply never worked, when you voted in polls it didn't calculate the results properly, etc. Would you say, "Well, you can get in a post every once in a while so have fun with what ya got!"

                    So to quote the article one more time, yes, myself and several other people will continue to trust "Average Joe" in the forum when it comes to impressions, what else are we suppose to do especially after seeing blatantly biased articles like this on the front page of OS?


                    If I didn't care about the game, I wouldn't have spent HOURS and HOURS editing stadium sounds for 2 solid months or spent 100 bucks total to get the game just a few days early.

                    Like you said ehh...I WANT this game to be as good as possible because for me, this is THE game.

                    Madden's cool...and I'll probably buy it IF the impressions from folks who have it are much better than NCAA, but honestly, I'm a College Football guy. I'd play NCAA 24/7/365 if it were solid all the way around. Right now...it's ooooooh so close. But it's not there.
                    AUBURN TIGERS
                    MINNESOTA VIKINGS
                    INDIANA PACERS

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                    • jaynny
                      Banned
                      • Feb 2008
                      • 24

                      #70
                      HERE'S THE DEAL.....THE GAME IS DECENT...DO WE LIKE BECAUSE EA HAS BEEN DOING SUCH A TERRIBLE JOB MAKING NCAA, THE LAST FEW YEARS ON NEXT GENERATION AND NOW JUST MAKING LIKE IT USED TO BE ON XBOX AND PS2...I SAY f&*K IT, IT YOU BUY UP ALL EXCLUSIVE RIGHTS, THE PRESSURE IS ON..IF YOU DONT GIVE US CUSTOMERS AN OPTIONTHEN, WE WANT THE BEST PLUS MORE FROM YOU..PEOPLE, ARE TOO LITE ON EA.....SOME PEOPLE SAY GET OVER, IT MINOR DETAILS, ETC...DO U THINK CALL OF DUTY, METAL GEAR OR GTA WOULD BE THAT GOOD WITHOUT THE MINORS DETAILS..DETAILS IS WHAT MAKES THE GAMES ESPECIALLY SPORTS....SO I SAY, KEEP THE PRESSURE ON EA, NO SLACK....THEY DONT GIVE US NO OPTION, WE DONT GIVE THEM NO OPTION, NO SLACK!

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                      • 867-5309
                        Banned
                        • Jul 2008
                        • 114

                        #71
                        Re: Summer Storms: The NCAA Release Story

                        Originally posted by jaynny
                        HERE'S THE DEAL.....THE GAME IS DECENT...DO WE LIKE BECAUSE EA HAS BEEN DOING SUCH A TERRIBLE JOB MAKING NCAA, THE LAST FEW YEARS ON NEXT GENERATION AND NOW JUST MAKING LIKE IT USED TO BE ON XBOX AND PS2...I SAY f&*K IT, IT YOU BUY UP ALL EXCLUSIVE RIGHTS, THE PRESSURE IS ON..IF YOU DONT GIVE US CUSTOMERS AN OPTIONTHEN, WE WANT THE BEST PLUS MORE FROM YOU..PEOPLE, ARE TOO LITE ON EA.....SOME PEOPLE SAY GET OVER, IT MINOR DETAILS, ETC...DO U THINK CALL OF DUTY, METAL GEAR OR GTA WOULD BE THAT GOOD WITHOUT THE MINORS DETAILS..DETAILS IS WHAT MAKES THE GAMES ESPECIALLY SPORTS....SO I SAY, KEEP THE PRESSURE ON EA, NO SLACK....THEY DONT GIVE US NO OPTION, WE DONT GIVE THEM NO OPTION, NO SLACK!

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                        • callmetaternuts
                          All Star
                          • Jul 2004
                          • 7045

                          #72
                          Re: Summer Storms: The NCAA Release Story

                          LOOOOOOOUUUUUUDDDDD NNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOIIIIIISSSSSSSSSEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSS

                          Check out my Tampa Bay Buccaneers CFM Thread.

                          You too can be a 5* recruit at FSU.......

                          Originally posted by TwelveozPlaya21
                          add worthless Xavier Lee to that list..
                          Originally posted by MassNole
                          CFL here he comes. Pfft, wait that would require learning a playbook. McDonalds here he comes.

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                          • Sting
                            Banned
                            • Nov 2004
                            • 3825

                            #73
                            Re: Summer Storms: The NCAA Release Story

                            Originally posted by jaynny
                            HERE'S THE DEAL.....THE GAME IS DECENT...DO WE LIKE BECAUSE EA HAS BEEN DOING SUCH A TERRIBLE JOB MAKING NCAA, THE LAST FEW YEARS ON NEXT GENERATION AND NOW JUST MAKING LIKE IT USED TO BE ON XBOX AND PS2...I SAY f&*K IT, IT YOU BUY UP ALL EXCLUSIVE RIGHTS, THE PRESSURE IS ON..IF YOU DONT GIVE US CUSTOMERS AN OPTIONTHEN, WE WANT THE BEST PLUS MORE FROM YOU..PEOPLE, ARE TOO LITE ON EA.....SOME PEOPLE SAY GET OVER, IT MINOR DETAILS, ETC...DO U THINK CALL OF DUTY, METAL GEAR OR GTA WOULD BE THAT GOOD WITHOUT THE MINORS DETAILS..DETAILS IS WHAT MAKES THE GAMES ESPECIALLY SPORTS....SO I SAY, KEEP THE PRESSURE ON EA, NO SLACK....THEY DONT GIVE US NO OPTION, WE DONT GIVE THEM NO OPTION, NO SLACK!

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                            • Spanky
                              MVP
                              • Nov 2002
                              • 2785

                              #74
                              Re: Summer Storms: The NCAA Release Story

                              Originally posted by brk1078
                              GIVE IT FREAKING TIME. And those who think that the defense sucks, USE SLIDERS. goshdarnit.
                              Shirley, you're not serious, are you?

                              Use sliders? Is that supposed to be funny?
                              It's on me. I shook his hand too hard. It was a hard ... kind of a slap-shake.

                              "What? You can't challenge a scoring play?''

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                              • ehh
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • Mar 2003
                                • 28959

                                #75
                                Re: Summer Storms: The NCAA Release Story

                                "And don't call me Shirley!"

                                "You make your name in the regular season, and your fame in the postseason." - Clyde Frazier

                                "Beware of geeks bearing formulas." - Warren Buffet

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