Is Dynasty ruined down the road?

[DerkontheOS]

Re: Is Dynasty ruined down the road?

SO in theory they could patch the AWR. If they did the following it would fix it all

- Raise AWR's on recruits
- Inc progression a touch (literally just a bit)
- Sort out the over recruiting

All doable but for some reason dev teams never bother to follow up

You would think so, but I am far from an expert.

[Dawkins#20]

Re: Is Dynasty ruined down the road?

If they had twitter people could just spam them to let them know

[Whoman]

Re: Is Dynasty ruined down the road?

wow such a simple solution that might just would work. Screw fixing everything just add more 3 star recruits. It's simple but actually might work. Has anyone done the testing to see if it does work? I have some free time this weekend and think I might tackle this.

As for the off topic discussion about recruiting duds check out the sig

keep in mind that there´s 120 (and 50+ D teams down the line) teams and the game creates some 2000+ 3 star recruits as it is. I´ll go out on a limb that anything less that 250 new 3 star recruits (every year !!) won´t be enough to have a real impact.

This is not sth that we can fix for ourselves i´m afraid.

[DerkontheOS]

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If they had twitter people could just spam them to let them know

We could just blow up the phones of EA. Lol.

[PocketScout]

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keep in mind that there´s 120 (and 50+ D teams down the line) teams and the game creates some 2000+ 3 star recruits as it is. I´ll go out on a limb that anything less that 500 new 3 star recruits won´t be enough to have a real impact.

This is not sth that we can fix for ourselves i´m afraid.

By no means is this a plan that I would suggest that people do, just a little experiment. Basically statistical data that could possibly lead to the results we are looking for(/or not) and a possible solution for people to bug EA to do.

It might be a lot easier to convince EA to just add another couple hundred 3stars a year than it would be to convince them to change the progression code after last years fiasco.

[DerkontheOS]

Re: Is Dynasty ruined down the road?

By no means is this a plan that I would suggest that people do, just a little experiment. Basically statistical data that could possibly lead to the results we are looking for(/or not) and a possible solution for people to bug EA to do.

What do you suggest?

[PocketScout]

Re: Is Dynasty ruined down the road?

What do you suggest?

Tomorrow I will do a simulation and gather a lot of data points and post them here. A 5 year span with no recruits added after the stock rosters are gone, then another 5 years with recruits added, then possibly another 5 years with more recruits added. All recruits will be 3star players to test if the idea of adding more meat to the middle will bring up a portion of the teams that fall to D-

[DerkontheOS]

Re: Is Dynasty ruined down the road?

Tomorrow I will do a simulation and gather a lot of data points and post them here. A 5 year span with no recruits added after the stock rosters are gone, then another 5 years with recruits added, then possibly another 5 years with more recruits added. All recruits will be 3star players to test if the idea of adding more meat to the middle will bring up a portion of the teams that fall to D-

Good stuff, will you need help?

[daking5]

Re: Is Dynasty ruined down the road?

I'm pretty sure there is an easy solution for this, I'm running a dynasty with UCLA and here is what I did. I created a CB prospect 85 overall 5* from Los Angeles, CA. When I got to target my prospects I see that as an 85 he's only the 6th best player in the nation. I then keep tabs and as I recruit it seems like creating one very good recruit seems to bump up the quality of all the recruits. I end up with the 7th class in the nation headlined by my 5* CB prospect and 2 other 5* and 8 4* Prospects. When I went and looked at most of the recruits, the 5* were mostly all in the 80's, the higher 4* were in the 80's and the lower ones were mid to high 70's. the 3 star players were mostly low 70's with a surprise here and there. I have only done this for one season but hopefully this helps solve the problem

[Whoman]

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that, my dear friend, is the Placebo effect at work You just netted a very good class, there is no way that sth like this is coded in.
Test this 10 years in a row and you´ll see that nothing changed (compared to not creating that 1 recruit) in terms of overall talent in the game universe.
I did create about 3 great players each year for 5 years and it didn´t change.

The ranking of created recruits is fluid as well. If you create a 75 HB and a 73 HB there is a chance that the 75 HB gets rated 3 stars and the 73 HB 4 stars.

@ PocketScout : Got you now. Good idea and a noble plan, but as said : I really wouldn´t expect less than a sizeable 3 digig number for 5 years to have much effect unfortunately...

[PocketScout]

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Good stuff, will you need help?

I will out the files on a thumbdrive and send you the link if you would like to post impressions, stats, Grade breakdowns etc... That way I can focus on making recruits and not posting data.

@ PocketScout : Got you now. Good idea and a noble plan, but as said : I really wouldn´t expect less than a sizeable 3 digig number for 5 years to have much effect unfortunately...

Yeah thats what Im gonna be looking for. The break over point where the x'th 3 star recruit starts to make a change in the bottom teams ovr grades.

[kodawg9]

Re: Is Dynasty ruined down the road?

Sure, the progression could technically use a little bump, but I don't necessarily see it as a big problem. But sure, it would definitely be nice if it was touched up on a very limited basis. Definitely patchable since they did it last year to tone down progressions a little.

But my biggest concern would be them touching up the progression, but then having everyone blown up, like Madden '10 did with the franchise simmed stats that turned out completely horrible after they tried fixing that.

[zav]

Re: Is Dynasty ruined down the road?

i dont have any problem... im in my 10th year and ive had 4 top ranked recruiting classes. i started coaching army then left once they reached 4 prestige for Northwestern and we got up to 5 prestige and i left for ND and weve been dominant my 4 years there. 13-0, 12-1, 11-2,13-0 and ive had top ranked classes every year and i have a QB thats a 97 overall and a RB thats a 95 my best player has been a FS that finished at 99 and i have a QB right now thats a SO that im RS next year thats already an 88

[DiSaStAx94]

Re: Is Dynasty ruined down the road?

i dont have any problem... im in my 10th year and ive had 4 top ranked recruiting classes. i started coaching army then left once they reached 4 prestige for Northwestern and we got up to 5 prestige and i left for ND and weve been dominant my 4 years there. 13-0, 12-1, 11-2,13-0 and ive had top ranked classes every year and i have a QB thats a 97 overall and a RB thats a 95 my best player has been a FS that finished at 99 and i have a QB right now thats a SO that im RS next year thats already an 88

Your team may not hve a problem, but that doesn't mean the rest of the nation doesn't.

[packmanuk]

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Does it make a differencve what level you set recruiting at ? I haven't started a dynasty yet but was going to set recruiting to heisman, is that the way to go or not ?