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  • MattUMD224

    #166
    Re: Is Dynasty ruined down the road?

    Originally posted by JJ_Bills9
    THis is a quote from one of Pasta Padre's articles about the lack of upgrades to Franchise mode in Madden this year.

    While that meant not making any major overhauls to Franchise or SuperStar, we were still able to make some notable improvements while we prepare for the future. Specifically, we improved franchise stats (especially season rushing yards and season sacks), in-game injuries, Super Bowl presentation, NCAA Draft Class tuning, and we even completely re-created over 8000 players in 32 draft classes. We also added the new Meadowlands Stadium as the 2014 Super Bowl site.
    I rally do believe that the Draft Class tuning has nothing to do with NCAA Imports and only has to do with the draft classes they created.

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    • dalecooper
      Rookie
      • Jun 2003
      • 490

      #167
      Re: Is Dynasty ruined down the road?

      Well - until EA says something about this I'm just going to commit myself to spending a few hours creating decent recruits between each dynasty season. It sucks, but I don't want all the teams going to crap by year four. I might track how much of a difference this makes in overall team ratings and if so, I'll report back with my results.

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      • joejccva71
        Banned
        • Mar 2008
        • 1535

        #168
        Re: Is Dynasty ruined down the road?

        Originally posted by MattUMD224
        God no. No Freshman should ever be an 84. Thats ridiculous IMO. My ratings scale on my edited rosters are

        5*- 80-77
        4*- 75-72
        3*- 71-64
        2*- 62- 58
        1*- 57 and lower.
        Matt I'm dissapointed in you, even if you are a Terps fan.

        80 (capped recruit rating) is too low for a 5* player. 84 is a good number.

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        • joejccva71
          Banned
          • Mar 2008
          • 1535

          #169
          Re: Is Dynasty ruined down the road?

          Originally posted by dalecooper
          Well - until EA says something about this I'm just going to commit myself to spending a few hours creating decent recruits between each dynasty season. It sucks, but I don't want all the teams going to crap by year four. I might track how much of a difference this makes in overall team ratings and if so, I'll report back with my results.
          How are you going to rate your new prospects? And how many do you plan on making? 10 each year?

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          • dan_457
            MVP
            • Jan 2010
            • 4106

            #170
            Re: Is Dynasty ruined down the road?

            Originally posted by MattUMD224
            God no. No Freshman should ever be an 84. Thats ridiculous IMO. My ratings scale on my edited rosters are

            5*- 80-77
            4*- 75-72
            3*- 71-64
            2*- 62- 58
            1*- 57 and lower.
            And i disagree You telling Adrian Peterson wasn't at least an 84?

            There's just a fundamental disagreement here, I like the higher grading scale, while a lot of people like the low. I don't look at as 99 and A+ = greatest or all time, or close to it, I just take it for what its worth, it just means they are a great player, not once in a generation great.
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            • NDAlum
              ND
              • Jun 2010
              • 11453

              #171
              Re: Is Dynasty ruined down the road?

              Originally posted by MattUMD224
              God no. No Freshman should ever be an 84. Thats ridiculous IMO. My ratings scale on my edited rosters are

              5*- 80-77
              4*- 75-72
              3*- 71-64
              2*- 62- 58
              1*- 57 and lower.
              Personally I love this...but each year have 1-4 5* guys be in the mid-80s and have a couple 4* guys be 79/80.

              You know have a couple in each * category be rated higher.
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              • MattUMD224

                #172
                Re: Is Dynasty ruined down the road?

                Originally posted by joejccva71
                Matt I'm dissapointed in you, even if you are a Terps fan.

                80 (capped recruit rating) is too low for a 5* player. 84 is a good number.
                How is 80 too low. If a player stays 5 years and progresses at 5 points each he reaches 99. If he stays 5 years and progresses at 2 points he goes to a 90 a good rating. I dont' know how you all like rosters, but I totally re-rate every single player on the game. I have finished QB on the base file and their are only about 15-20 players over 80 at QB. While re-rating the QB their were 100+ QB with 40 and below Awareness. Yeah I changed that.

                Nebraska has what a 91,87,85,78 at QB on the base file. Now they have 80, 76, 71, 68. The lowest rated QB on the team can still make it to the 90's if he stays til he is a Redshirt Senior.

                I don't want teams having a big amount of good players on the team. I want any player over 95 to be elite status. I don't like how teams over-recruit at some positions leaving other dry with no back-ups. I would like to see progression fixed witht he lower rated teams to make it more interesting to.

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                • JJ_Bills9
                  Banned
                  • Dec 2008
                  • 264

                  #173
                  Re: Is Dynasty ruined down the road?

                  Originally posted by MattUMD224
                  God no. No Freshman should ever be an 84. Thats ridiculous IMO. My ratings scale on my edited rosters are

                  5*- 80-77
                  4*- 75-72
                  3*- 71-64
                  2*- 62- 58
                  1*- 57 and lower.
                  So Adrian Peterson wasn't the best running back in college his freshman year? AJ Green wasn't one of the very best WR's his freshman year. Potential doesn't work in these games because EA and some gamers fail to realize that some players literally live up to their potential during their freshman or sophomore seasons, and then they really don't get a whole lot better after that. Do you think Adrian was any better his junior year than he was his freshman year? He wasn't, hell he hasn't done anything to really improve his game now that he's been in the NFL for several years.

                  Outside of awareness, strength, and the position specific skills (catching and route running, blocking footwork, pass rush moves, coverage skills, so and and so forth) a players abilities should improve very little while they are in college.

                  Speed, agility, jumping, acceleration, carrying, catching and such aren't going to improve that much regardless of how much someone trains. Throwing power is another skill that frankly shouldn't change at all throughout college.

                  In my opinion players should be able to reach their potential by their sophomore seasons and not get better much at all after that, as at that point they are just waiting for their junior seasons to be over so they can get paid. This would require a whole new progression system that takes on field performance into account with potential.

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                  • joejccva71
                    Banned
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 1535

                    #174
                    Re: Is Dynasty ruined down the road?

                    Originally posted by NDAlum
                    Personally I love this...but each year have 1-4 5* guys be in the mid-80s and have a couple 4* guys be 79/80.

                    You know have a couple in each * category be rated higher.
                    Also there is nothing wrong with having ONE stud each year that turns out to be a 90+ player. Could be any position, and it doesn't even have to be a 5* player. Just one hidden gem each year thats a 90+ OVR and one team gets lucky and snags him.

                    Don't give away any kind of hints on who the player is either.

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                    • NDAlum
                      ND
                      • Jun 2010
                      • 11453

                      #175
                      Re: Is Dynasty ruined down the road?

                      Originally posted by MattUMD224
                      How is 80 too low. If a player stays 5 years and progresses at 5 points each he reaches 99. If he stays 5 years and progresses at 2 points he goes to a 90 a good rating. I dont' know how you all like rosters, but I totally re-rate every single player on the game. I have finished QB on the base file and their are only about 15-20 players over 80 at QB. While re-rating the QB their were 100+ QB with 40 and below Awareness. Yeah I changed that.

                      Nebraska has what a 91,87,85,78 at QB on the base file. Now they have 80, 76, 71, 68. The lowest rated QB on the team can still make it to the 90's if he stays til he is a Redshirt Senior.

                      I don't want teams having a big amount of good players on the team. I want any player over 95 to be elite status. I don't like how teams over-recruit at some positions leaving other dry with no back-ups. I would like to see progression fixed witht he lower rated teams to make it more interesting to.
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                      • MattUMD224

                        #176
                        Re: Is Dynasty ruined down the road?

                        Originally posted by dan_457
                        And i disagree You telling Adrian Peterson wasn't at least an 84?

                        There's just a fundamental disagreement here, I like the higher grading scale, while a lot of people like the low. I don't look at as 99 and A+ = greatest or all time, or close to it, I just take it for what its worth, it just means they are a great player, not once in a generation great.
                        I agree with the bolded part on how everyone has a different mindset and opinion on this topic.

                        But I do not agree and laugh at the usage of Adrian Peterson. A once in 10 year type prospect who yes coulda and shoulda been rated higher than an 80. But besides him I don't really see a type of high school prospect that should be ranked higher than an 80.
                        Last edited by Guest; 07-22-2010, 04:24 PM.

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                        • joejccva71
                          Banned
                          • Mar 2008
                          • 1535

                          #177
                          Re: Is Dynasty ruined down the road?

                          Now I'm only in my 3rd season with the Terps but I haven't seen any regression yet on players. All of my players have progressed...some only a few points, some 5 but never any regression. Has anyone seen their players regress?

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                          • TracerBullet
                            One Last Job
                            • Jun 2009
                            • 22119

                            #178
                            Re: Is Dynasty ruined down the road?

                            Originally posted by joejccva71
                            Also there is nothing wrong with having ONE stud each year that turns out to be a 90+ player. Could be any position, and it doesn't even have to be a 5* player. Just one hidden gem each year thats a 90+ OVR and one team gets lucky and snags him.

                            Don't give away any kind of hints on who the player is either.
                            I agree with this. I actually have a recruit I made with an 87 OVR on here currently, but you'd never know it looking at the recruiting board seeing as he is only ranked like 32nd on the top 150. There's also a kicker I made who has an 82 OVR, but he's only a 3* recruit. There there definently needs to be hidden gems and busts no matter the star level. Having a couple players rated in the mid to high 80s every year wouldn't really hurt it at all.
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                            • MattUMD224

                              #179
                              Re: Is Dynasty ruined down the road?

                              Originally posted by JJ_Bills9
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                              In my opinion players should be able to reach their potential by their sophomore seasons and not get better much at all after that, as at that point they are just waiting for their junior seasons to be over so they can get paid. This would require a whole new progression system that takes on field performance into account with potential.
                              Their are a million players in College Football who don't even realized the potential and play the best until they are in Junior and sometimes Senior Year.

                              And sure you have a couple Players that come in and take College Football by storm the Freshman year, but the fact is, not that many do this.
                              Last edited by Guest; 07-22-2010, 04:26 PM.

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                              • NEOPARADIGM
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                                • Jul 2009
                                • 2788

                                #180
                                Re: Is Dynasty ruined down the road?

                                Originally posted by joejccva71
                                Now I'm only in my 3rd season with the Terps but I haven't seen any regression yet on players. All of my players have progressed...some only a few points, some 5 but never any regression. Has anyone seen their players regress?
                                This game has never had regression before, did they say it was in this year or something?

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