Is Dynasty ruined down the road?

[hazey]

Re: Is Dynasty ruined down the road?

I don't see a problem with these ratings at all...JMHO.

The ones that Michigantown just posted seem just like what they should be. Few elite teams and more bad teams. I like the sizable gap between teams.

Realistically, I think more games should have ratings like that. Especially in games that deals with College sports.

There wouldn't be a problem at all if the default rosters were something similiar to these. But when the default roster Alabama almost has as many starters in the 90's who didn't even start the previous year than the total number of 90+ rated defensive players in the game in 2016, yea, there's a problem, and a big one at that.

[NDAlum]

Re: Is Dynasty ruined down the road?

I don't know OSU. If Stew says that the starting HB @ Penn St is rated in the 40s then that directly affects gameplay. I'm assuming that QB he's talking about is still a hold-over from the initial rosters.

Penn State had 3 FR HB, they were in the low-mid 40s.

They had a 91 & 87 rated QB. Honestly one of them might be listed #1 on the depth chart, I didn't even look.

It was in 2015, so nobody was from the default roster.

BTW Michigantown my kickers are varying greatly from yours!

In '15 I had 3 90+ with 97 tops
In '16 I had 4 90+ with 99 tops

In '15 I had 90 players 90+
In '16 I had 68 players 90+

Bout to do '17 then call it a day on simming lol

[reo]

Re: Is Dynasty ruined down the road?

Awareness and agility are issues from what I've seen so far . . .

[KG]

Re: Is Dynasty ruined down the road?

Penn State had 3 FR HB, they were in the low-mid 40s.

They had a 91 & 87 rated QB. Honestly one of them might be listed #1 on the depth chart, I didn't even look.

It was in 2015, so nobody was from the default roster.

BTW Michigantown my kickers are varying greatly from yours!

In '15 I had 3 90+ with 97 tops
In '16 I had 4 90+ with 99 tops

In '15 I had 90 players 90+
In '16 I had 68 players 90+

Bout to do '17 then call it a day on simming lol

Stew, if you see this before you sign off check out what their AWR ratings are. It doesn't have to be those PSU HBs but any starter at a big-time school that is rated that poorly.

[NDAlum]

Re: Is Dynasty ruined down the road?

Stew, if you see this before you sign off check out what their AWR ratings are. It doesn't have to be those PSU HBs but any starter at a big-time school that is rated that poorly.

Bout to wrap up off season & will post it here in about 10 min

[KG]

Re: Is Dynasty ruined down the road?

Bout to wrap up off season & will post it here in about 10 min

[Michgantown]

Re: Is Dynasty ruined down the road?

2026 top 25 polls
Wisconsin 13-0
Tcu 13-0
Penn State 12-1
Texas 13-1
Ohio State 11-2
Usc 11-2
Troy 12-1
Central Michigan 13-1
Standford 12-1
Nevada 12-1
West Virginia 11-2
Florida 11-3
North Carolina 12-2
Florida Atlantic 12-1
Alabama 11-3
Florida State 10-3
Cincinnati 10-3
Maryland 11-3
Houston 12-2
Boston College 11-2
Notre Dame 10-3
Utah 11-2
Colorado State 9-4
Iowa 9-4
Ole Miss 9-4

[Michgantown]

Re: Is Dynasty ruined down the road?

Heisman
Mark Brown
81 receptions
1171 yards
17 TDs
Leading passer had 4044 yards
leading rusher 2150
receiving 1740
Tackles 67
sacks 12.5
interceptions 10

[OSUFan_88]

Re: Is Dynasty ruined down the road?

I don't know OSU. If Stew says that the starting HB @ Penn St is rated in the 40s then that directly affects gameplay. I'm assuming that QB he's talking about is still a hold-over from the initial rosters.

Maybe they just struck out in recruiting? Maybe there is a new system?

Who knows?

[NDAlum]

Re: Is Dynasty ruined down the road?

<table style="border-collapse: collapse; width: 288pt;" width="384" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><col style="width: 48pt;" width="64" span="6"> <tbody><tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="height: 15pt; width: 48pt;" width="64" height="20">
</td> <td colspan="2" class="xl66" style="width: 96pt;" width="128">2015</td> <td style="width: 48pt;" width="64">
</td> <td style="width: 48pt;" width="64">
</td> <td style="width: 48pt;" width="64">
</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td colspan="2" class="xl66" style="height: 15pt;" height="20">Position Ratings</td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> <td colspan="2" style="">Team Ratings</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">Position</td> <td>90+</td> <td>Top</td> <td>
</td> <td>Grade</td> <td>#</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">QB</td> <td align="right">6</td> <td align="right">95</td> <td>
</td> <td>A+</td> <td align="right">0</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">HB</td> <td align="right">4</td> <td align="right">92</td> <td>
</td> <td>A</td> <td align="right">0</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">FB</td> <td align="right">3</td> <td align="right">91</td> <td>
</td> <td>A-</td> <td align="right">2</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">WR</td> <td align="right">7</td> <td align="right">90</td> <td>
</td> <td>B+</td> <td align="right">0</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">TE</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">87</td> <td>
</td> <td>B</td> <td align="right">10</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">LT</td> <td align="right">4</td> <td align="right">94</td> <td>
</td> <td>B-</td> <td align="right">13</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">LG</td> <td align="right">5</td> <td align="right">95</td> <td>
</td> <td>C+</td> <td align="right">17</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">C</td> <td align="right">7</td> <td align="right">95</td> <td>
</td> <td>C</td> <td align="right">12</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">RG</td> <td align="right">9</td> <td align="right">99</td> <td>
</td> <td>C-</td> <td align="right">18</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">RT</td> <td align="right">4</td> <td align="right">92</td> <td>
</td> <td>D+</td> <td align="right">11</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">LE</td> <td align="right">1</td> <td align="right">91</td> <td>
</td> <td>D</td> <td align="right">13</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">RE</td> <td align="right">1</td> <td align="right">90</td> <td>
</td> <td>D-</td> <td align="right">24</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">DT</td> <td align="right">5</td> <td align="right">96</td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">LOLB</td> <td align="right">4</td> <td align="right">92</td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">MLB</td> <td align="right">3</td> <td align="right">96</td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">ROLB</td> <td align="right">2</td> <td align="right">94</td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">CB</td> <td align="right">7</td> <td align="right">94</td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">FS</td> <td align="right">4</td> <td align="right">98</td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">SS</td> <td align="right">6</td> <td align="right">99</td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">K</td> <td align="right">3</td> <td align="right">97</td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">P</td> <td align="right">5</td> <td align="right">95</td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">Total</td> <td class="xl65">90</td> <td class="xl65">99 (2)</td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">
</td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td colspan="2" class="xl66" style="height: 15pt;" height="20">2016</td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td colspan="2" class="xl66" style="height: 15pt;" height="20">Position Ratings</td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> <td colspan="2" style="">Team Ratings</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">Position</td> <td>90+</td> <td>Top</td> <td>
</td> <td>Grade</td> <td>#</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">QB</td> <td align="right">5</td> <td align="right">95</td> <td>
</td> <td>A+</td> <td align="right">0</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">HB</td> <td align="right">3</td> <td align="right">97</td> <td>
</td> <td>A</td> <td align="right">0</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">FB</td> <td align="right">2</td> <td align="right">94</td> <td>
</td> <td>A-</td> <td align="right">2</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">WR</td> <td align="right">6</td> <td align="right">97</td> <td>
</td> <td>B+</td> <td align="right">3</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">TE</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">86</td> <td>
</td> <td>B</td> <td align="right">5</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">LT</td> <td align="right">2</td> <td align="right">93</td> <td>
</td> <td>B-</td> <td align="right">11</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">LG</td> <td align="right">8</td> <td align="right">96</td> <td>
</td> <td>C+</td> <td align="right">20</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">C</td> <td align="right">4</td> <td align="right">96</td> <td>
</td> <td>C</td> <td align="right">17</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">RG</td> <td align="right">4</td> <td align="right">95</td> <td>
</td> <td>C-</td> <td align="right">13</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">RT</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">88</td> <td>
</td> <td>D+</td> <td align="right">7</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">LE</td> <td align="right">4</td> <td align="right">92</td> <td>
</td> <td>D</td> <td align="right">19</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">RE</td> <td align="right">3</td> <td align="right">94</td> <td>
</td> <td>D-</td> <td align="right">24</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">DT</td> <td align="right">3</td> <td align="right">96</td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">LOLB</td> <td align="right">2</td> <td align="right">93</td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">MLB</td> <td align="right">4</td> <td align="right">96</td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">ROLB</td> <td align="right">2</td> <td align="right">91</td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">CB</td> <td align="right">2</td> <td align="right">90</td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">FS</td> <td align="right">5</td> <td align="right">92</td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">SS</td> <td align="right">3</td> <td align="right">94</td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">K</td> <td align="right">2</td> <td align="right">99</td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">P</td> <td align="right">4</td> <td align="right">93</td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">Total</td> <td class="xl65">68</td> <td class="xl65">99</td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">
</td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td colspan="2" class="xl66" style="height: 15pt;" height="20">2017</td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td colspan="2" class="xl66" style="height: 15pt;" height="20">Position Ratings</td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> <td colspan="2" style="">Team Ratings</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">Position</td> <td>90+</td> <td>Top</td> <td>
</td> <td>Grade</td> <td>#</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">QB</td> <td align="right">7</td> <td align="right">99</td> <td>
</td> <td>A+</td> <td align="right">0</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">HB</td> <td align="right">5</td> <td align="right">98</td> <td>
</td> <td>A</td> <td align="right">1</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">FB</td> <td align="right">2</td> <td align="right">91</td> <td>
</td> <td>A-</td> <td align="right">1</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">WR</td> <td align="right">5</td> <td align="right">96</td> <td>
</td> <td>B+</td> <td align="right">2</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">TE</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">87</td> <td>
</td> <td>B</td> <td align="right">5</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">LT</td> <td align="right">4</td> <td align="right">95</td> <td>
</td> <td>B-</td> <td align="right">10</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">LG</td> <td align="right">9</td> <td align="right">96</td> <td>
</td> <td>C+</td> <td align="right">21</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">C</td> <td align="right">6</td> <td align="right">97</td> <td>
</td> <td>C</td> <td align="right">13</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">RG</td> <td align="right">6</td> <td align="right">96</td> <td>
</td> <td>C-</td> <td align="right">12</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">RT</td> <td align="right">4</td> <td align="right">91</td> <td>
</td> <td>D+</td> <td align="right">13</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">LE</td> <td align="right">3</td> <td align="right">91</td> <td>
</td> <td>D</td> <td align="right">17</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">RE</td> <td align="right">1</td> <td align="right">91</td> <td>
</td> <td>D-</td> <td align="right">25</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">DT</td> <td align="right">7</td> <td align="right">93</td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">LOLB</td> <td align="right">4</td> <td align="right">94</td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">MLB</td> <td align="right">1</td> <td align="right">91</td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">ROLB</td> <td align="right">7</td> <td align="right">96</td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">CB</td> <td align="right">7</td> <td align="right">94</td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">FS</td> <td align="right">3</td> <td align="right">96</td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">SS</td> <td align="right">2</td> <td align="right">93</td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">K</td> <td align="right">3</td> <td align="right">92</td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">P</td> <td align="right">4</td> <td align="right">96</td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">Total</td> <td class="xl65">90</td> <td class="xl65">99</td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> </tbody></table>

[BIG17EASY]

Re: Is Dynasty ruined down the road?

I've been following this thread all morning and got scared a bit at first. This is the first version of NCAA Football I've bought since the PS3 came out and I'm happy so far. But I'm only halfway into the first season in my dynasty.

After reading everything, it seems to me that the only thing that "ruins" this game is that the draft classes imported into Madden might be filled with players that are basically useless in Madden. I don't play Madden -- am I the only person on the planet who doesn't? -- so that doesn't bother me.

For me, I'm just hopeful the gameplay experience remains steady, which is why I'm hoping the "it's all relative" argument holds true.

Just my two cents.

[hazey]

Re: Is Dynasty ruined down the road?

I've been following this thread all morning and got scared a bit at first. This is the first version of NCAA Football I've bought since the PS3 came out and I'm happy so far. But I'm only halfway into the first season in my dynasty.

After reading everything, it seems to me that the only thing that "ruins" this game is that the draft classes imported into Madden might be filled with players that are basically useless in Madden. I don't play Madden -- am I the only person on the planet who doesn't -- so that doesn't bother me.

For me, I'm just hopeful the gameplay experience remains steady, which is why I'm hoping the "it's all relative" argument holds true.

Just my two cents.

I think it evens out on the field, because even though all the ratings are lower and there are drastically low ratings like awareness, it's balenced around the league.

The hard thing is starting a dynasty with a good team, and knowing you will never have a team as good as the one you start with most likely, in terms of talent and skill.

[OSUFan_88]

Re: Is Dynasty ruined down the road?

First of all, I had no idea NDalum was Stew. Need to put that in your sig or something Stew.

Second, thanks Stew. Seems to me that this whole issue of it being ruined down the road is overblown a bit.

In fact, this looks like what the NCAA is most often.

[BIG17EASY]

Re: Is Dynasty ruined down the road?

I think it evens out on the field, because even though all the ratings are lower and there are drastically low ratings like awareness, it's balenced around the league.

The hard thing is starting a dynasty with a good team, and knowing you will never have a team as good as the one you start with most likely, in terms of talent and skill.

True, but I'm not as concerned about what my QB or WR is rated in a certain category as I am having realistic scores and stats. If I start seeing lots of RBs putting up 2,000 yards or QBs throwing 40 or more TDs or teams winning by 80 points all the time, then I'll worry. I don't mind if my QB is the best in the country but is only rated 85 overall. As long as he puts up realistic numbers and plays like the best QB -- not throwing tons of INTs, for example -- I'm ok with the lower ratings.

[TheDutchDad]

Re: Is Dynasty ruined down the road?

Bout to wrap up off season & will post it here in about 10 min

Also, if you could go into the in season recruiting and see if it freezes once you are in 2016/2017.