Is Dynasty ruined down the road?

[dalecooper]

Re: Is Dynasty ruined down the road?

But see it just depends...I got a 3 star DB and he came in at 72 but most of them do come in at 57-69. The #1 recruit that Ohio State got in the last class was a FS and he shocked me by coming in with an 86 overrall rating. I love the randomness

I'm in favor of some randomness, because it's more realistic that way - but still the net result shouldn't be all the teams getting worse once the default rosters have been entirely replaced with random recruits.

[Mtneer08]

Re: Is Dynasty ruined down the road?

I´d wager he was a transfer.

Maybe but I've still seen bad teams like some MAC teams get 4 star recruits. That usually dont even happen in real life.

[Michgantown]

Re: Is Dynasty ruined down the road?

Half the teams are Ds by 2016

[youALREADYknow]

Re: Is Dynasty ruined down the road?

The way the original rosters ratings are spread out is pretty much perfect

I disagree with this point, but agree with the general sentiment. The original rosters have far too many good players (75-85 OVR) on poor teams. That should not be the model for the future of dynasty mode.

The only thing required to fix the prospect pool is for EA to add more 2-3 star recruits and stop forcing small schools to recruit and offer scholarships to 1 star recruits. This has been a problem in NCAA games the entire time on next-gen.

Then just fix AWR progression so that upperclassmen have larger boosts in AWR in the offseason.

[Whoman]

Re: Is Dynasty ruined down the road?

Maybe but I've still seen bad teams like some MAC teams get 4 star recruits. That usually dont even happen in real life.

that´s all great, but for the purpose of this video game it really is pointless if up to 50 team are rated D+, D and D- and only 4 are rated A+, A, A- or B+.




is what we need for both recruits and thus overall rating. Can´t be that difficult to achieve.

[NDAlum]

Re: Is Dynasty ruined down the road?

Half the teams are Ds by 2016

Post your sim results

[youALREADYknow]

Re: Is Dynasty ruined down the road?

Any programmer/developer that can't understand and code a bell curve needs to find a new profession.

[NDAlum]

Re: Is Dynasty ruined down the road?

I'm doing my own simulation and will post some in depth thoughts and have an excel breakdown. I'm simming to 2017 and will post the results from that season. Then 2020 & 2022 to compare.

Nothing too in depth, but enough!

[Mtneer08]

Re: Is Dynasty ruined down the road?

that´s all great, but for the purpose of this video game it really is pointless if up to 50 team are rated D+, D and D- and only 4 are rated A+, A, A- or B+..

Maybe im in the minority but that sounds realistic to me. Great teams should be rare and there are a lot of bad teams like that every year.

[Michgantown]

Re: Is Dynasty ruined down the road?

2018
A+: 0
A: 0
A-: 0
B+: 4
B: 8
B-: 11
C+: 15
C: 15
C-: 10
D+: 12
D: 17
D-: 28

[Whoman]

Re: Is Dynasty ruined down the road?

Maybe im in the minority but that sounds realistic to me. Great teams should be rare and there are a lot of bad teams like that every year.

No, there are a lot of below average teams (average being B- and C+ on their rating skill. I didn´t make that one, they did and should then follow it).
We need a lot of C- and D+ teams, not a lot of D and D- teams.

And again, it´s not rocket science that for the purpose of sports games the Bell Curve is the way to go, plain and simple. You do get more variety, you do get lesser overall ratings, you do get fewer great teams.
All without contradiciting a lot with the existing roster (again, recruit level/progression has to be in line with the existing roster, no alternative to that. It´s like implenting to different storage systems at the same time if you don´t ...) and without making the level of play and competition pointless in lower conferences.

[hazey]

Re: Is Dynasty ruined down the road?

2018
A+: 0
A: 0
A-: 0
B+: 4
B: 8
B-: 11
C+: 15
C: 15
C-: 10
D+: 12
D: 17
D-: 28

I'm all for getting rid of the mass amount of great teams but that is just ridiculous.

[joejccva71]

Re: Is Dynasty ruined down the road?

2018
A+: 0
A: 0
A-: 0
B+: 4
B: 8
B-: 11
C+: 15
C: 15
C-: 10
D+: 12
D: 17
D-: 28

I'm sorry but THIS is a problem. This kills it for me to be honest. Absolutely zero A teams at all? Alabama, Texas, OU, OSU, Florida? Hello? A teams every year.

Can you sim another 10 years and post your results please? Post results for 2028.

[Whoman]

Re: Is Dynasty ruined down the road?

2018
A+: 0
A: 0
A-: 0
B+: 4
B: 8
B-: 11
C+: 15
C: 15
C-: 10
D+: 12
D: 17
D-: 28

so again,

that´s 0% in the upper 4th of the scale, 20% in the 2/4, 30% in the 3/4 and 50% in the 4/4.

Come on, that´s absurd ... Show this to any developer of a sports game with a player database and he´ll be shocked.
I am fine with less great teams, but it should be gradual. Less great teams but more good teams, more decent teams. Not less great teams and a ton more terrible teams.

What i´d like to see from a competitivness standpoint is sth like this

A+: 1
A: 2
A-: 3
B+: 10
B: 10
B-: 15
C+: 20
C: 20
C-: 20
D+: 15
D: 10
D-: 5

[joejccva71]

Re: Is Dynasty ruined down the road?

Exactly. It's absurd. Teams don't just get worse over time. According to this game, by the year 2040...there won't be any A or B teams, hell maybe not even any C teams.

And there are still some people on this forum that think this is ok. Seriously?