Is Dynasty ruined down the road?

[JNM86WVU]

Re: Is Dynasty ruined down the road?

I've been following this thread all morning and got scared a bit at first. This is the first version of NCAA Football I've bought since the PS3 came out and I'm happy so far. But I'm only halfway into the first season in my dynasty.

After reading everything, it seems to me that the only thing that "ruins" this game is that the draft classes imported into Madden might be filled with players that are basically useless in Madden. I don't play Madden -- am I the only person on the planet who doesn't? -- so that doesn't bother me.

For me, I'm just hopeful the gameplay experience remains steady, which is why I'm hoping the "it's all relative" argument holds true.

Just my two cents.

I agree.. As long as the game play holds true, then I'm not to concerned with importing the Draft class.. That being said it would be nice to have a few more in that C/C- range instead of the D/D- range, but I don't see that as being the death of the Dynasty Mode..

[NDAlum]

Re: Is Dynasty ruined down the road?

Random teams:

Arizona
QB - 68 ovr, 58 awr, junior
HB - 75 ovr, 63 awr, 87 agi, senior
WR - 72 ovr, 67 awr, 60 agi, junior

Auburn
QB - 78 ovr, 69 awr, sophomore
HB - 91 ovr, 64 awr, senior --- 92 spd, 82 agi, 88 acc
HB - 87 ovr, 56 awr, junior --- 91 spd, 98 agi, 86 acc


Immediately I can tell you some of the issues:

#1- The 1*/2* recruits are rated too low. I think 50 needs to be the floor of the recruits.
#2- Agility for WRs/CBs is too low across the board. Highest agility is 87 for WRs. Speed is fine though, two 99s.
#3- Awareness for HBs/FBs/WRs is too low.
Top Awareness:
HB - 89...then drops to 80
FB - 76
WR - 83...then 76

LE - 67? Seriously? 67? That's the TOP in the country!!!
RE - A rare 76 lol...he's a redshirt SR...then it drops off to 69
DT - 83
LOLB - 67....yes a 67. He's rated a 94 OVR and has 67 awareness.
MLB - 66?...66? These are the quarterbacks of the defense...a 67 awareness?
ROLB - 79
CB - 86
FS - 98...then 86. This guy is a rarity
SS - 88 - 85 - 80 - 78
K - 89
P - 87


Ok so on second thought it's pretty f'd up...well the awareness is.

Damn

[OSUFan_88]

Re: Is Dynasty ruined down the road?

did you try playing a game?

Is there a huge difference?

[NDAlum]

Re: Is Dynasty ruined down the road?

First of all, I had no idea NDalum was Stew. Need to put that in your sig or something Stew.

Second, thanks Stew. Seems to me that this whole issue of it being ruined down the road is overblown a bit.

In fact, this looks like what the NCAA is most often.

I'd say there is definitely a problem. The awareness of the front 7 on defense is clearly messed up. The skill guys on offense need a boost as well.

Stats seem legit when simming...I am gonna just hop in a game to see what it's like.

C- Ohio @ C Oklahoma St (me)

[Michgantown]

Re: Is Dynasty ruined down the road?

Top classes
1 Alabama 19
2 Wisconsin 17
3 Penn State 21
4 Texas A&M 21
5 Notre Dame 25
6 Houston 21
7 USC 17
8 Maryland19
9 Cincinnati 25
10 UCF 21
11 Oklahoma 25
12 Miami 22
13 West Virginia 23
14 Georgia 21
15 Texas 19
16 South Carolina 22
17 FAU 24
18 Utah 25
19 Florida 19
20 Stanford 18
21 Troy 16
22 Ohio state 19
23 Texas Tech 23
24 North Carolina 18
25 Georgia Tech 19

[NDAlum]

Re: Is Dynasty ruined down the road?

Honestly gameplay seemed decent from a quarter. I didn't observe anybody standing around acting stupid and their impact FS made a great play and picked off a jump ball.

This was on AA

I'm going to keep asking for a change to incoming recruits, but will continue to enjoy the game in the meantime.

It does not kill my dynasty plans.

[KG]

Re: Is Dynasty ruined down the road?

did you try playing a game?

Is there a huge difference?

yeah that's my main question.

It's still a little disappointing seeing that in 2015-2017 75-80% of the teams are rated C's & D's.

[Rebel10]

Re: Is Dynasty ruined down the road?

Well I would assume that if you create a bunch of highly rated recruits, big programs will go after them and leave some of the average-rated, random-generated guys to the others. Just having better recruits at the top should theoretically elevate the talent level available to everybody all the way down the line, kind of like a cascade effect. The question is how many you need to see an impact on a large number of schools and keep the overall program ratings roughly the same - I would guess probably 50 players per year at least.

This is the most compelling case for Reaganomics that I've ever seen on a videogame forum.

[dalecooper]

Re: Is Dynasty ruined down the road?

This is the most compelling case for Reaganomics that I've ever seen on a videogame forum.

Hell, it might be the most compelling case ever presented anywhere.

[Michgantown]

Re: Is Dynasty ruined down the road?

Honestly gameplay seemed decent from a quarter. I didn't observe anybody standing around acting stupid and their impact FS made a great play and picked off a jump ball.

This was on AA

I'm going to keep asking for a change to incoming recruits, but will continue to enjoy the game in the meantime.

It does not kill my dynasty plans.

My oline is incredibly stupid but i have to play more to see

[Old School SD Fan]

Re: Is Dynasty ruined down the road?

not to sound like a jackass, but i honestly believe that the slow progression is to add incentive into buying their "max training" in the off-season.

I am of the same opinion, it's a business inducement to generate revenue, not an accident.

[NEOPARADIGM]

Re: Is Dynasty ruined down the road?

Well I just really hope the "it's all relative" argument holds up. I generally don't go much further than 8-9 years into Dynasty anyway, so ...

But that PSU RB corps post is rather alarming. 40 OVRs? Might as well just put your punter and kicker back there.

[dalecooper]

Re: Is Dynasty ruined down the road?

I am of the same opinion, it's a business inducement to generate revenue, not an accident.

That thing only boosts your own team's progression, doesn't it? If so, the serious sim buffs aren't going to be helped by it one iota. I guess it would make it easier to turn into a backdoor powerhouse - your team stays at roughly the same level while everyone else drops a letter grade. Instant rise in the BCS!

[NEOPARADIGM]

Re: Is Dynasty ruined down the road?

I am of the same opinion, it's a business inducement to generate revenue, not an accident.

I'd be much more inclined to buy that argument if your team was the only one being affected while the CPU teams were all turning out A+ teams every year. As it stands, this is issue is more about CPU-controlled programs falling apart than it is about your team falling behind the curve because you haven't bought an accelerator.

[mjarz02]

Re: Is Dynasty ruined down the road?

I do think its all relative, but would like to see a few minor changes that people have already talked about but I just want to reinforce them

1. Awareness progression needs to be greater. Fine if a recruit comes in at 40 awr, but he should at least be a 70 awr by senior year or could progress to 80-90 awareness. However I dont know what kind of impact this would have on the overall ratings.

2. 1*-3* recruits need to be rated higher and possibly throw in some sleepers in there. Have a bottom level rating of 55.