New Features Aren’t All Free in NCAA Football 12

[JaySmooov]

Re: New Features Aren’t All Free in NCAA Football 12

2 demo matchups, 5 unlocked uniforms

http://www.pastapadre.com/2011/05/14...-demo-outlined

Thanks, that means we'll have the full 2010 Pro Combat lineup (IF you preorder and play the demo)

[mattbooty]

Re: New Features Aren’t All Free in NCAA Football 12

I'm not insinuating anything. The base product used to include the new features they added yearly. Now it no longer does. That's the issue. It'd be one thing if their model was to always charge extra for new features that hadn't been in the game before.

This is an entirely new type of feature though. This is a whole new world for console gaming. In the past there was never integration with the web like this. Last year they started branching into it and now we see it continuing to grow. So there hasn't been any precedent for this type of feature before.

Unless, of course, you do business with one of a dozen other cell phone providers. Like MetroPCS, that provides all of those features for $40 (no tax).

And you could also just go buy a different game that doesn't include web-enabled features at an added cost.

Prior to EAs monopoly, there were competing products providing web integration in licensed football gaming products. Not only was this extra server-based feature included in the cost of the purchase of the game, but the game in mention was only $20.00.

I was unaware that you could advance dynasties, do your recruiting, and sim games from a PC in any previous xbox football title. Please show me where that happened before.

When there was no monopoly, similar features were all-inclusive. Now that there is a monopoly, we're forced to pay extra for them.

I don't believe there have been features similar to this web content in the past. This is a new type of feature. I could be wrong and if so please show me past examples.

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I was away for a while and just came across these, I know I'm a little late in responding to these... the rest of the thread has devolved quite a bit. I respect anyone's opinion who does not like having to pay for these, and anyone who refuses to buy them or doesn't want them... I've taken offense when the argument has turned into "how can you defend this" or being called out because I have a different opinion, or have been treated as though I was stupid for not following someone else's opinion/logic on this topic. And so I have defended MY opinion, but I've tried to value everyone's opinions on this.

Unless some new info is released on this I'm out of this discussion from now (unless someone specifically asks a question pointed at me).

Thanks for the discussion.

[JaySmooov]

Yeah I agree, I'm done with this thread. Looking forward to E3 and the gameplay videos that should come from it.

[Qdiddy]

I don't mind DLC in a game as it is the new norm, however I think it should be for enhancements/cheat or special perks, map packs etc. Not for features that should be in the game already. better yet make the whole game downloadable al la carte, where you can download the basic game for a set price and whatever features you want. Example basic game say $30, then if I want online dynasty I can pay extra for that if I don't play online then no need for me to pay for that.

[ab2c4]

Re: New Features Aren’t All Free in NCAA Football 12

I don't mind DLC in a game as it is the new norm, however I think it should be for enhancements/cheat or special perks, map packs etc. Not for features that should be in the game already. better yet make the whole game downloadable al la carte, where you can download the basic game for a set price and whatever features you want. Example basic game say $30, then if I want online dynasty I can pay extra for that if I don't play online then no need for me to pay for that.

I would love for it to be done that way. If you only want to play offline Dynasty mode: $29.99. Only want to play online: $29.99. Want the ability to play offline Dynasty as well as play online: $59.99.

I am pretty much just an offline gamer and I hate paying $60 for some games where half of the game is online and I don't use it at all. EA always wants to be innovative in the industry with stuff like this, here is their chance, lol.

[JaySmooov]

I don't mind DLC in a game as it is the new norm, however I think it should be for enhancements/cheat or special perks, map packs etc. Not for features that should be in the game already. better yet make the whole game downloadable al la carte, where you can download the basic game for a set price and whatever features you want. Example basic game say $30, then if I want online dynasty I can pay extra for that if I don't play online then no need for me to pay for that.

And what about people without an internet connection, or XBOX Live/PSN?

Suggesting EA should make a "basic" game is a selfish and senseless claim. Think of the ramifications it could have on the whole, before posting a biased opinion, based off of what YOU want.

[ab2c4]

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And what about people without an internet connection, or XBOX Live/PSN?

Suggesting EA should make a "basic" game is a selfish and senseless claim. Think of the ramifications it could have on the whole, before posting a biased opinion, based off of what YOU want.

Well, people without an internet connection can't get patches for the game either, correct? So what's the difference?

Plus they could sell the basic game on disc for $29.99 (offline modes only) and if you don't have an internet connection you wouldn't need any more than that. If you wanted the online portion you would obviously have an internet connection and you could purchase the online portion for an additional $29.99.

[jeremym480]

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I would like that, as well. I'd also like for my cable company to let me select the channels that I want and pay for them a la carte. That a way I don't have to pay for Oxygen, Lifetime, CMT and a plethora of other channels that I've never watched. However, it ain't happening. Oh yeah and I'd also like for them to let me have HBO, Showtime & all UFC PPV's for free. That would be real nice of them.

[DCDuck]

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I have no problem with extra features being added as DLC and having a price tag attached to them just as long as I can buy the game off of store shelves and have a complete game experience. I don't want to buy a stripped-down version of the game at full retail price then have to pay extra to play the full version.

It's the difference between getting a bonus and getting gouged. It all boils down to "can I enjoy playing this game without having to spend extra on features that should have been in the game to begin with?".

[noplace]

Re: New Features Aren’t All Free in NCAA Football 12

Any word on what this content is?

[PowerPitcher]

Price of NCAA '07? $60
Price of NCAA '12? $60

They know better than to jack with the price of the disk every year, charging $60 back in '07 was a HUGE bend over and cough!
I think if they thought they could nickel and dime their fan base and get a way with it, they would DO IT! But they know way too many people would realize paying over $60 every year for something they ultimately are disappointed with the progression of, would COST them money in the long run.
If they want to raise the price every year, they had better blow my hair back with the improvements they make EVERY YEAR! The whole Erin Andrews 10-11 same outfit thing would be a deal breaker, no sale!

[bkrich83]

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They know better than to jack with the price of the disk every year, charging $60 back in '07 was a HUGE bend over and cough!
I think if they thought they could nickel and dime their fan base and get a way with it, they would DO IT! But they know way too many people would realize paying over $60 every year for something they ultimately are disappointed with the progression of, would COST them money in the long run.
If they want to raise the price every year, they had better blow my hair back with the improvements they make EVERY YEAR! The whole Erin Andrews 10-11 same outfit thing would be a deal breaker, no sale!

Absolutely amazing..

[PaperBoyx703]

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Absolutely amazing..

Yup sums up my thoughts.

[poopoop]

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Hilarious watching people claim over and over again they're done, then come back again and again to offer up more defenses.

Also no idea why people keep bringing up cell phones, car dealerships and cable companies. Companies that have direct competition and have a lot more motivation to give me the most value for my dollar. Cable companies around me give deals to try and get my business. These companies aren't perfect either but I don't think it's a very good analogy. I guess I'll just be happy I have a choice what cell phone company to choose, who to get cable from, and where to buy my cars. And that the threat of me choosing a competitor, helps prevent companies from going overboard.

Oh yeah and I'd also like for them to let me have HBO, Showtime & all UFC PPV's for free. That would be real nice of them.

I have gotten showtime for free, as a reward for signing up with a cable company before. Was great.

[Cubfan]

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I will just speak with my wallet and not buy NCAA 12. It is not ok to nickle and dime your customers after spending $60.