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  • tebowfanai
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    • Jan 2010
    • 148

    #166
    Re: Staff Roundtable: How Are We Feeling About NCAA Football 12 Now?

    The leaping linebackers have really got on my nerves but other than that I love this game.
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    • Playmakers
      Hall Of Fame
      • Sep 2004
      • 15340

      #167
      Re: Staff Roundtable: How Are We Feeling About NCAA Football 12 Now?

      Originally posted by SGMRock
      Well not everyone plays the same or has the same skill level. But some of these things can be fixed by sliders. The leaping LB's I am not sure how to fix those with sliders though
      I've showed video's and explained how to fix leaping LB's

      The problem is most people don't particulary care about doing it.....they will rely on EA to do it and much like every year EA never does it for them so this complaint is constant all year.

      There is no slider in this game that can stop leaping LB's not one single slider is a releated to a players vertical jump ratings

      This is not NBA 2K11 where you have a global slider for gameplay to lower verticals

      I'm not speaking of you but the leaping LB's out cry's really get old especially when you have like 2-3 guys on these boards who have explained how to fix the issue. It's not the best way to go about it because it takes time but hey if people truly wanted to fix it and not see it then they would take action on their own otherwise they will be on here all year complaining the problem
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      • jkra0512
        MVP
        • Sep 2006
        • 2277

        #168
        Re: Staff Roundtable: How Are We Feeling About NCAA Football 12 Now?

        Originally posted by Playmakers
        I've showed video's and explained how to fix leaping LB's

        The problem is most people don't particulary care about doing it.....they will rely on EA to do it and much like every year EA never does it for them so this complaint is constant all year.

        There is no slider in this game that can stop leaping LB's not one single slider is a releated to a players vertical jump ratings

        This is not NBA 2K11 where you have a global slider for gameplay to lower verticals

        I'm not speaking of you but the leaping LB's out cry's really get old especially when you have like 2-3 guys on these boards who have explained how to fix the issue. It's not the best way to go about it because it takes time but hey if people truly wanted to fix it and not see it then they would take action on their own otherwise they will be on here all year complaining the problem
        PM, even though there is a workaround for it, doesn't mean those upset about it can't complain. It's not our "job" to make sure these issues aren't...well...issues.

        It's ridiculous that people have been complaining about this for a few years now and EA continues to turn the other cheek...

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        • Playmakers
          Hall Of Fame
          • Sep 2004
          • 15340

          #169
          Re: Staff Roundtable: How Are We Feeling About NCAA Football 12 Now?

          Originally posted by Spanky
          Wait a minute, how can it be a "fantastic game'' if it had major bugs? Doesn't having major bugs relegate this to anything but a "fantastic game?'' How in the world can you call this a "fantastic game?''

          That's like saying you just had a "fantastic'' cheesesteak with spoiled meat.
          well they did include dreads for him this year so that might be why other problems are irrelevant to him

          some people prefer gameplay while others prefer cosmetic upgrades
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          • Playmakers
            Hall Of Fame
            • Sep 2004
            • 15340

            #170
            Re: Staff Roundtable: How Are We Feeling About NCAA Football 12 Now?

            Originally posted by jkra0512
            PM, even though there is a workaround for it, doesn't mean those upset about it can't complain. It's not our "job" to make sure these issues aren't...well...issues.

            It's ridiculous that people have been complaining about this for a few years now and EA continues to turn the other cheek...
            Trust me i know very well EA should fix this issue

            But i really don't think they will take action on it....they didn't last year and they didn't in NCAA 09

            In fact i've yet to see any EA rep come on here and talk about ever fixing leaping LB's shoudln't that tell you guys something?

            I remeber the NBA Live team having a guy who actually dealt with ratings and would listen to the Live community and then go in and make the chages right away

            I've never recalled a NCAA guy doing anything of that magnitude
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            • PowerPitcher
              Banned
              • Mar 2011
              • 112

              #171
              Re: Staff Roundtable: How Are We Feeling About NCAA Football 12 Now?

              Even with all its faults ( I don't need to make a very long list of them, we all know what they are) but with that said this the BEST Football game I have EVER played, as in I have had more fun with NCAA 12 than any other version to date. Thats not to say that I don't expect NCAA 13 to blow my socks off with all off the improvements they had better make, but I DO believe they are on the right track!

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              • jkra0512
                MVP
                • Sep 2006
                • 2277

                #172
                Re: Staff Roundtable: How Are We Feeling About NCAA Football 12 Now?

                PowerPitcher, I'm not calling you out...but it's another thing I have a problem with, with people who have this game. The phrase, "they are on the right track." How long do we have to wait/sink money into this franchise before they are "on track"? Seems like they have been "on the right track" for so many years now.

                I'm not totally disgusted with this game, because I am still playing it and mildly enjoying it. However, it's clear EA's NCAA team cares more about adding half-assed features than fixing "under the hood" mechanics of the game. That is a business model I won't get burned by anymore. Definitely waiting on Madden this year because of it.

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                • Gotmadskillzson
                  Live your life
                  • Apr 2008
                  • 23424

                  #173
                  Re: Staff Roundtable: How Are We Feeling About NCAA Football 12 Now?

                  People been saying they are on the right track for the past 6 years now. Grant it they are, however it is come to the point now they need to make it to the station.

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                  • ODogg
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 37953

                    #174
                    Re: Staff Roundtable: How Are We Feeling About NCAA Football 12 Now?

                    Originally posted by Spanky
                    Wait a minute, how can it be a "fantastic game'' if it had major bugs? Doesn't having major bugs relegate this to anything but a "fantastic game?'' How in the world can you call this a "fantastic game?''

                    That's like saying you just had a "fantastic'' cheesesteak with spoiled meat.
                    Because with slider adjusments the game plays great, not perfect, but great in my opinion. I've had a fantastic time wit it, when it hasn't froze on me.

                    As for your analogy I'd say its like a fantastic , meaty cheesesteak with a piece of gristle in every other bite. Remove the gristle and you've got a great sandwich.
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                    • ODogg
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Feb 2003
                      • 37953

                      #175
                      Re: Staff Roundtable: How Are We Feeling About NCAA Football 12 Now?

                      Originally posted by Playmakers
                      well they did include dreads for him this year so that might be why other problems are irrelevant to him

                      some people prefer gameplay while others prefer cosmetic upgrades
                      You're way off the mark here, I have posted more than anyone here in some of these glitch threads, such as the freezing thread.
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                      • aarontab
                        Rookie
                        • Mar 2011
                        • 468

                        #176
                        Re: Staff Roundtable: How Are We Feeling About NCAA Football 12 Now?

                        Originally posted by Gotmadskillzson
                        People been saying they are on the right track for the past 6 years now. Grant it they are, however it is come to the point now they need to make it to the station.
                        "on the right track" is a tough pill to swallow. I don't think they think EA ever thought it wasn't on the right track, so that really can't apply. The reviews and the sales and all that mean that we are still (to them anyways) the vocal minority, and they aren't trying to "get back on track" when they succeed in their eyes year after year.

                        EA will never be on the right track to making games that are free of glitches and bugs, and they aren't even working hard to correct the other things because they are just tweaking the existing successful formula. All you can do is enjoy NCAA for what it is, I myself am having no problem doing exactly that.

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                        • JaySmooov
                          Banned
                          • May 2011
                          • 1693

                          #177
                          Re: Staff Roundtable: How Are We Feeling About NCAA Football 12 Now?

                          I'll just put it like this: When I play online, I feel like not only do I have to beat the guy I'm playing against (Most Level 8's and higher, especially the top 100, are fake and use glitches/nano blitzes/some cheese formation/some formation glitch, etc.), But I have to beat the game as well. There's no reason I should have to resort to running double outside slants in the bunch formation just to get a guy open.

                          Also, what's funny is that these "Superman LBs" and "Psychic DBs" only make unrealistic plays on the ball when the CPU is controlling them. Try to jump a route over the middle with a LB, superman-style. Guarantee you'll get beat.

                          Don't get me wrong, I enjoy the game A LOT. Haven't jumped into Dynasty or RTG much yet, so I don't know the problems with those. Pretty sure I'll enjoy both.

                          All I'll say is, unless you plan on buying multiple new controllers and headset's, play the game with SLIDERS. Otherwise, this will be you:



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                          • Spanky
                            MVP
                            • Nov 2002
                            • 2785

                            #178
                            Re: Staff Roundtable: How Are We Feeling About NCAA Football 12 Now?

                            Originally posted by ODogg
                            Because with slider adjusments the game plays great, not perfect, but great in my opinion. I've had a fantastic time wit it, when it hasn't froze on me.

                            As for your analogy I'd say its like a fantastic , meaty cheesesteak with a piece of gristle in every other bite. Remove the gristle and you've got a great sandwich.
                            You should have quit while you were behind. Your explanation makes less sense than your original comment.

                            You've had a fantastic time when it hasn't froze on you? WTF? Doesn't the fact that it has frozen on you multiple times preclude it from being "fantastic?''

                            And I don't even know where to start with your comment about the sandwich having a piece of gristle in every other bite. I don't know about you, but one piece of gristle would ruin the sandwich for me. And this game is chok-ful of gristle.

                            "Remove the gristle and you've got a fantastic sandwich?'' Well, yeah. But how much gristle has EA removed? And do you really think they'll be able to remove a large portion of it?

                            I've noticed over the years that you seem to be overly effusive with your praise towards EA's football titles. EA thanks you.

                            But I'm not going to bend over and shout "Thank you, Sir. May I have another.''
                            It's on me. I shook his hand too hard. It was a hard ... kind of a slap-shake.

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                            • Nakeja71
                              Banned
                              • Nov 2009
                              • 136

                              #179
                              Re: Staff Roundtable: How Are We Feeling About NCAA Football 12 Now?

                              Originally posted by ODogg
                              Because with slider adjusments the game plays great, not perfect, but great in my opinion. I've had a fantastic time wit it, when it hasn't froze on me.

                              As for your analogy I'd say its like a fantastic , meaty cheesesteak with a piece of gristle in every other bite. Remove the gristle and you've got a great sandwich.
                              What sliders have you used?

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                              • canes21
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • Sep 2008
                                • 22893

                                #180
                                Re: Staff Roundtable: How Are We Feeling About NCAA Football 12 Now?

                                I don't understand why so many people get fired up when people like myself and Odogg say we're having great times with the game. This game is easily the best football gme I've ever played. Does it have problems? Definitely, there is no doubt about it.

                                I can see why some people are bummed out and are ready to sell the game off, but that's not me. I am having fun with it besides all the problems. EA finally nailed the gameplay down for the most part. When my biggest complaint about the gameplay is the occasional LB that jumps up and tips the pass, then that's a great sign.

                                For me, EA just needs to fix the tendencies bug, fix the custom playbooks bug, fix coach's progression, and fix the awareness of DB's and WR's on passes and I'll be playing this and MLB 2k11 all the way up to NCAA 13 and MLB 2k12.

                                The gameplay is there, the features are there, and the modes are there. They all just need a patch that polishes up everything and makes everything run smoothly. I'd like to see LB's with lower jump ratings so everyone would be quiet about it, but I could care less about it because I really don't have any problems with the so called "super LB".

                                My problems have already been stated in this post: CPB bug, tendencies, bug, coach progression, and DB/WR awareness on passes. That's it. I know that will be impossible for some of you to believe, but that is honestly all I find wrong with the game.

                                If all those problems are ironed out, then NCAA 13 would just need to build onto Dynasty, Presentation, and Graphics. Yes, they would need to make gameplay even better, but let's be honest, the engine(s) they're using are about as good as they are going to get. That's a shame because there is so much I think they could do with football games on these consoles still, but it's not like the games are terrible. They aren't, the football games we have(NCAA 12) and are getting(Madden 12) look to be the best NFL and NCAAF games we've ever had the chance to play.

                                There is still going to be those out there who will put NCAA 06 and ESPN NFL 2k5 on a pedestal, but you have that with every product and they are always going to blindly hate whatever new is coming out. Now I am not saying those games were not good, because, well, 2k5 was my favorite game up until NCAA 11 came out, but I can easily tell you that it's dated and there is now way it's better than EA's latest offerings.

                                And wow, I really kept on rambling for no reason at all....l
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