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  • bcruise
    Hall Of Fame
    • Mar 2004
    • 23274

    #1081
    Re: NCAA Football 12 Title Update #2 - Waiting on Approval From Microsoft and Sony

    Originally posted by chia51
    Again, I could not replicate it... I will do two controllers and have the defenders do all types of different zones to see if I can get it. Also there is an HD 720p version.
    Thanks chia. That pretty much sums up my first efforts with trying to duplicate this - no success at all. The first time I actually saw it was in a CPU game. I really don't believe this issue is any different on PS3 or 360.

    There definitely seems to be a certain situation that's triggering this - and it's rare. Unfortunately, those are the worst kind of bugs - they can't be fixed unless they can be recreated.

    Nova, I tried the play you suggested many times and it didn't work for me - in practice or a game. I still think there's more to this than the option play call - it's something on the defensive side of the ball.

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    • novadolla
      Pro
      • Sep 2010
      • 551

      #1082
      Re: NCAA Football 12 Title Update #2 - Waiting on Approval From Microsoft and Sony

      What i have found is the corner just stands there so if you can get to the edge you can consistently take it to the house without him reacting. I can consistently do it and you cant so i'm just going to leave it alone and let it be. sooner or later if you all play online you will run into it.

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      • chia51
        Banned
        • Jul 2005
        • 1912

        #1083
        Re: NCAA Football 12 Title Update #2 - Waiting on Approval From Microsoft and Sony

        Originally posted by novadolla
        What i have found is the corner just stands there so if you can get to the edge you can consistently take it to the house without him reacting. I can consistently do it and you cant so i'm just going to leave it alone and let it be. sooner or later if you all play online you will run into it.
        Dude, I don't know what to say... I cannot get it to happen even with two controllers.

        One thing that I have noticed is that the defense definitely does react more now post patch the right trigger being pressed.

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        • Strings74
          Rookie
          • Mar 2010
          • 457

          #1084
          Re: NCAA Football 12 Title Update #2 - Waiting on Approval From Microsoft and Sony

          My personal jury is still out but I will say that for a change I am looking forward to going home tonight and firing up the game.

          At least offline, of course.

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          • bcruise
            Hall Of Fame
            • Mar 2004
            • 23274

            #1085
            Re: NCAA Football 12 Title Update #2 - Waiting on Approval From Microsoft and Sony

            Ok, this is the best I can do on reliably getting this to happen in practice, and it's nowhere near as awful looking as the videos that several people (including myself) have posted. I'm going to put it here so there's awareness of it, but be aware that it may get taken down as it seems to be pretty easily exploitable. This is strictly bug hunting - I don't play NCAA online and have no intention of using this.

            Go with the Air Force, I tight Load Option that Nova suggested. Put the defense in a cover 3, or any play that has the CB drop into a deep zone. Motion the WR to the opposite side, so the CB has no one to cover. Run the play and try as best you can to get in the secondary (it still won't always be easy). As you do, watch the CB - he should be backing up.

            The key to seeing the issue is making it past the first tacklers and into the secondary - if you do, one of two things will happen:

            1: The CB will get blocked, and will then attempt to pursue
            2: The CB won't get blocked, and will slide out to the sideline. He won't move, even if you run right past him

            I HAVE been able to duplicate this pretty reliably in practice now.

            As you can see, it takes a number of specific situations for even this to happen. Not only do you have to outrun 3 or 4 defenders to the outside to even SEE it, the defense has to be in a certain alignment and the CB has to not get blocked for some reason. The videos that show more than one defender being subject to this are likely even more of a perfect storm of bugs. Label me an EA fanboy or whatever, but I can understand QA missing this one if the only hint of it they ever saw was a deep zone CB not moving.
            Last edited by bcruise; 09-09-2011, 04:02 PM.

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            • NateDogPack12
              Go Pack Go!!
              • Jul 2011
              • 1271

              #1086
              Guys.

              Is there anywhere I can see what exactly is in the patch? I know EA mentioned there would be more stuff they fixed that wasn't in the original list they gave us of stuff weeks ago. Seems the "patch thread" stopped carrying a list of stuff. Would love to read about everything this most recent patch has fixed.
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              • NateDogPack12
                Go Pack Go!!
                • Jul 2011
                • 1271

                #1087
                Disregard my last question. I found the info. There is a question I have though:

                Has the Teambuilder rivalry / recruiting goal bug been fixed where rivals wouldn't count towards contract goals for a Teambuilder school? I read nothing of this. Thanks.
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                • TheDelta
                  MVP
                  • Sep 2010
                  • 1313

                  #1088
                  Re: NCAA Football 12 Title Update #2 - Waiting on Approval From Microsoft and Sony

                  I've gotten the option bug as well, although I'm quite sure I've seen it before the patch as well. I've encountered it running the Speed Option out of I-Twins, DB on the playside just backpedals into his zone and completely ignores the ballcarrier.

                  I'm not saying it happens every time and I haven't tried to reproduce it, but I've definitely seen it happen.
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                  • rollinphat
                    Rookie
                    • May 2003
                    • 476

                    #1089
                    Re: NCAA Football 12 Title Update #2 - Waiting on Approval From Microsoft and Sony

                    what is the problem with custom playbooks now?

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                    • novadolla
                      Pro
                      • Sep 2010
                      • 551

                      #1090
                      Re: NCAA Football 12 Title Update #2 - Waiting on Approval From Microsoft and Sony

                      Originally posted by rollinphat
                      what is the problem with custom playbooks now?
                      Nothing, the patch fixed everything, the game is great. You probably wont even notice anything broken unless you read it here, so i would say just go play the game.

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                      • jhogan3132
                        OHIO ST8
                        • Jan 2005
                        • 6942

                        #1091
                        Originally posted by novadolla
                        Nothing, the patch fixed everything, the game is great. You probably wont even notice anything broken unless you read it here, so i would say just go play the game.
                        Unless you play online dynasty or run a no huddle, or was that sarcasm?

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                        • theonlywhiteout
                          Rookie
                          • Jul 2011
                          • 32

                          #1092
                          Re: NCAA Football 12 Title Update #2 - Waiting on Approval From Microsoft and Sony

                          This is still a boring game compared to Madden. I have to give EA huge credit for the Madden effort this year. It's just miles ahead in presentation and is a treat to play. Presentation needs to be beefed up

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                          • coogrfan
                            In Fritz We Trust
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 15645

                            #1093
                            Re: NCAA Football 12 Title Update #2 - Waiting on Approval From Microsoft and Sony

                            Originally posted by novadolla
                            Nothing, the patch fixed everything, the game is great. You probably wont even notice anything broken unless you read it here, so i would say just go play the game.

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                            • TheDelta
                              MVP
                              • Sep 2010
                              • 1313

                              #1094
                              Re: NCAA Football 12 Title Update #2 - Waiting on Approval From Microsoft and Sony

                              Originally posted by novadolla
                              Nothing, the patch fixed everything, the game is great. You probably wont even notice anything broken unless you read it here, so i would say just go play the game.
                              Unless of course you do something so crazy and unpredictable like trying to use the no huddle or creating a custom playbook.
                              You gotta have Hope! (My Minnesota Vikings franchise)

                              After an incredible 2012 season ends with a Super Bowl win, Hope Turner and her Vikings are trying to prove that their performance was more than just a one-shot.

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                              • balcobomber25
                                Banned
                                • Aug 2011
                                • 259

                                #1095
                                Re: NCAA Football 12 Title Update #2 - Waiting on Approval From Microsoft and Sony

                                Originally posted by theonlywhiteout
                                This is still a boring game compared to Madden. I have to give EA huge credit for the Madden effort this year. It's just miles ahead in presentation and is a treat to play. Presentation needs to be beefed up
                                Couldn't disagree more with this post. Madden is still the same exact game as years past. Only now they added shiny new menus to the same broken, boring franchise mode. The commentary is among the worst ever in the history of sports video games. In my opinion the only good next gen commentary Madden ever had was the "hometown radio announcer" he was the only one to provide solid play by play without meaningless mindless chatter (i.e. Chris Collinsworth). The team specific entrances this year which was one of the most hyped features, pale in comparison to NCAA's. For a 2011 title I would expect a full team entrance and not just two guys randomly selected. Half the time they announce my backup RB as the starter...

                                The dynamic player performance is broken. At times you don't even notice it, at other times all it takes is one missed tackle, one fumble or a dropped catch and your player is done for the game. The accelerated game clock being forced on in franchise mode is a joke, I've had more than one two minute drive effectively ended because of it. Until Madden and NCAA takes a year off for a total overhaul this game is going to continue sinking into an abyss, there is simply not enough time to change the key components of the game in a one year development cycle. It is going to suffer the same fate as NBA Live (or whatever they call it these days), NHL 2K and eventually MLB 2k (which is only kept alive by an exclusive license).

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