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  • Hooe
    Hall Of Fame
    • Aug 2002
    • 21554

    #46
    Re: BCS Will Continue as the Postseason Format For All Years of Dynasty in NCAA Footb

    Originally posted by jmik58
    No one outside of the tight inner circle of the BCS knows what all goes into it, yet it's in EA's game. So why does EA have to have all the details on the playoff selection committee before including it?
    This isn't true.

    The three components of the current BCS formula are the Harris Poll, Coaches Poll, and an average of six computerized ranking systems. Each of these three components comprises one third of a team's total score in the BCS standings. These components are all known entities and may be simulated, regardless of knowledge of exact implementation. For example, the means of computation for a team's score in the Sagarin rating, which is one component of the computer average, is not public knowledge, but exact knowledge of the Sagarin rating isn't needed to attempt to create a reasonable representation of the total computer average portion of the BCS formula.

    In contrast, there are absolutely no specifics as to how team selection will take place for the college football playoff. Any attempt to simulate it at this juncture will have no basis in reality.

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    • Ziza9Noles94
      MVP
      • Jul 2008
      • 1416

      #47
      Re: BCS Will Continue as the Postseason Format For All Years of Dynasty in NCAA Footb

      Originally posted by T-Moar
      Because:
      1. EA still has to answer to the NCAA. That's also why we don't have player discipline or storming the field.
      2. If it wound up not being exactly like its real life counterpart, this board would RIOT. If you don't believe me, just use the search function and look up "rankings."
      3. As Hooe has said, doing it now basically means they do a ton of work for nothing. Time spent coding a playoff system into the game trades directly off with other stuff.
      That's a good point. It does, however, just reinforce what he was saying. They make up their own BCS selection criteria and it has, as far as I know (which admittedly is not much, haha), has not gotten better or closer to real life over the last few years. So would they really have to tweak the playoff formula or add in other criteria if none of us would ever know what they were including in the first place? They could tell us they are looking at x, y, z, but in reality the algorithm may just always look for x and then compute the result.
      I bleed Garnet and Gold. In The 'Slim Reaper' We Trust. Go Noles!

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      • TorreyG
        Rookie
        • Aug 2010
        • 38

        #48
        Re: BCS Will Continue as the Postseason Format For All Years of Dynasty in NCAA Footb

        Wow it amazes me how people are getting mad on how the playoff system is not in the game are you serious. The playoff system has not debuted in real life and of course without NCAA permission they could not put it in the game. It is disappointing to a certain extent but I already knew it would not be in the game common sense really. If your not going to get the game just say that, no playoff system as a dealbreaker come on. Sometimes you just have to be realistic.

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        • ACardAttack
          Pro
          • Jul 2005
          • 711

          #49
          Re: BCS Will Continue as the Postseason Format For All Years of Dynasty in NCAA Footb

          Originally posted by T-Moar
          2. If it wound up not being exactly like its real life counterpart, this board would RIOT. If you don't believe me, just use the search function and look up "rankings."
          The hate for the rankings is the broken ranking system, chances are we will still have that next year...just take the top 4 bcs teams and put them in the playoff...also hopefully fix some of the rankings issues...EA could have easily put in the playoff

          Originally posted by Husker_OS
          I think EA's not doing this due to the many other problems and the criteria for picking teams shouldn't have much weight on their decision.
          I think they're mostly doing it so they have a new killer feature to kick off the next gen games

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          • JerseySuave4
            Banned
            • Mar 2006
            • 5152

            #50
            Re: BCS Will Continue as the Postseason Format For All Years of Dynasty in NCAA Footb

            Originally posted by T-Moar
            Because:
            2. If it wound up not being exactly like its real life counterpart, this board would RIOT. If you don't believe me, just use the search function and look up "rankings."
            Who cares if these boards riot? EA clearly doesn't because they continue to ignore some of the biggest complaints on these boards. And people wouldn't get mad when they know going into it that it's not based on what it's going to be like in real life. If they can manage to make fake rankings based on formulas that we don't even know, they can manage to create a playoff based on a fake formula. It already pisses off people when you get a team like San Jose State (for hypothetical purposes) in the BCS Championship when everyone knows in real life a 1 or 2 loss team would be in the BCS Title game over an undefeated San Jose State team.

            And I don't want to hear crap about money when they rob people of $60 every year by putting out a minimally updated game, slapping a new year on it and trying to tell us it's improved. They tout the run game this year as being improved but can't even bother putting in realistic looking running motions. Same thing with last year when they talked about the passing game but left the ugly throwing motions in the game. So they don't seem to be spending their time usefully improving what they claim to improve so they might as well use the time to give us a playoff option.

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            • Sparkles
              Pro
              • Jul 2011
              • 979

              #51
              i really dont care. its not ea's fault. its a reasonable excuse i guess, but this wont lower my excitement what so ever
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              • mike24forever
                Old Guy
                • Sep 2003
                • 3168

                #52
                They DO NOT rob anyone of any money. SMH. Here's an idea, if you do not like what they put on the market...DO NOT BUY IT.
                I am the lesson after the fall.

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                • Noble Evildoer
                  Pro
                  • Jun 2009
                  • 717

                  #53
                  Re: BCS Will Continue as the Postseason Format For All Years of Dynasty in NCAA Footb

                  Originally posted by mike24forever
                  They DO NOT rob anyone of any money. SMH. Here's an idea, if you do not like what they put on the market...DO NOT BUY IT.
                  You sound like all those people who keep telling me to be responsible and not buy things with money I don't have.
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                  • mike24forever
                    Old Guy
                    • Sep 2003
                    • 3168

                    #54
                    Re: BCS Will Continue as the Postseason Format For All Years of Dynasty in NCAA Footb

                    Originally posted by Noble Evildoer
                    You sound like all those people who keep telling me to be responsible and not buy things with money I don't have.
                    Not at all. Spend your money however you like, but being melodramatic about a company stealing your money on a product you DO NOT need to buy is ridiculous. Good try though.
                    I am the lesson after the fall.

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                    • JerseySuave4
                      Banned
                      • Mar 2006
                      • 5152

                      #55
                      Re: BCS Will Continue as the Postseason Format For All Years of Dynasty in NCAA Footb

                      Originally posted by mike24forever
                      Not at all. Spend your money however you like, but being melodramatic about a company stealing your money on a product you DO NOT need to buy is ridiculous. Good try though.
                      apparently you've never felt ripped off after buying something. And just so you know, I didn't buy the game last year because I did not want that feeling of being ripped off once again.

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                      • theycallmeSEABASS
                        Rookie
                        • Apr 2013
                        • 67

                        #56
                        Re: No Playoffs in NCAA 14

                        EA... your EA is showing.

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                        • mike24forever
                          Old Guy
                          • Sep 2003
                          • 3168

                          #57
                          Re: BCS Will Continue as the Postseason Format For All Years of Dynasty in NCAA Footb

                          Originally posted by JerseySuave4
                          apparently you've never felt ripped off after buying something. And just so you know, I didn't buy the game last year because I did not want that feeling of being ripped off once again.
                          I have, however you know what you are getting into with these EA titles. There are really no secrets, and being a member at OS you know you are going to get honest impressions about the game. That way, you will be able to make an informed judgement about buying it or not. Since you did not but it last year, EA did not "steal" any of your money last year in regards to this title, and if you do the same this year...you will have $60 in your pocket and actually made a stronger statement to EA by not purchasing it, then those people who buy the game and complain on message boards about a game that they feel never improves.
                          I am the lesson after the fall.

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                          • JerseySuave4
                            Banned
                            • Mar 2006
                            • 5152

                            #58
                            Re: BCS Will Continue as the Postseason Format For All Years of Dynasty in NCAA Footb

                            Originally posted by mike24forever
                            I have, however you know what you are getting into with these EA titles. There are really no secrets, and being a member at OS you know you are going to get honest impressions about the game. That way, you will be able to make an informed judgement about buying it or not. Since you did not but it last year, EA did not "steal" any of your money last year in regards to this title, and if you do the same this year...you will have $60 in your pocket and actually made a stronger statement to EA by not purchasing it, then those people who buy the game and complain on message boards about a game that they feel never improves.
                            I stopped buying Madden about 3 or 4 years ago, don't miss it one bit. NCAA was always the game I preferred over Madden and I was noticing more and more that i'd buy Madden, play it for 2 weeks, get bored of it or not enjoy it and either sell it back or it'd collect dust. So I stopped buying it and would use the demo to decide if I felt it was worth buying.

                            A few years ago NCAA was starting to give me that similar feeling. I was getting tired of the excuses and stuff that used to be in the old games no longer be in the game. That combined with the ridiculously slow menus made the game almost unbearable to play so I finally got smart and didn't give in to buying it just because I bought it every year and thought I needed to have it. Instead I found myself playing games like NBA 2k & MLB the Show longer than just when it was "in-season" and I enjoyed playing much more higher quality games than playing a mediocre at best game just because it was football.

                            I still come back to Madden & NCAA boards looking for new info and hoping they made drastic improvements but year after year with EA it appears to be the same thing. Minimally updated game with a new number on it. And the more I resist playing these games, the more I realize how bad they really are when you play other games that are much higher in quality. When you play these games where the guys run and move realistically and there are things such as broadcast cameras, real time presentation and great commentary and then you pop in NCAA and see the sliding, repetitive commentary, boring cutscenes and terrible camera angles, its too much to just overlook.

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                            • tacosaban
                              Pro
                              • Jul 2009
                              • 809

                              #59
                              Re: BCS Will Continue as the Postseason Format For All Years of Dynasty in NCAA Footb

                              Gonna wait until next years game (if and its a big if, they include it for Ncaa 15) for the PS4. Hopefully it will be in next years game!
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                              • ACardAttack
                                Pro
                                • Jul 2005
                                • 711

                                #60
                                Re: BCS Will Continue as the Postseason Format For All Years of Dynasty in NCAA Footb

                                Originally posted by tacosaban
                                Gonna wait until next years game (if and its a big if, they include it for Ncaa 15) for the PS4. Hopefully it will be in next years game!
                                I don't see any reason it wouldn't be in next years game

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