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  • OUByron
    Rookie
    • Sep 2011
    • 210

    #751
    Re: Matt10's Heisman **Very Slow Speed** Sliders

    Originally posted by Chedapalooza
    Lol that is why I test my a$$ off with a test dyn w random team and dint recruit so I do t get attached to my players hahaha.. But honestly yes.. Night and day once I fired up a new dynasty after the patch.. No coach sliders were used either.. Just lightsguy rosters.. He's on top of his sh!t !!
    So you are using the default coaching sliders now? Not even putting defend pass/run at 50/50? And you're leaving aggressive/conservative alone for both offense and defense?
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    • Chedapalooza
      MVP
      • Jul 2011
      • 2467

      #752
      Re: Matt10's Heisman **Very Slow Speed** Sliders

      Originally posted by OUByron
      So you are using the default coaching sliders now? Not even putting defend pass/run at 50/50? And you're leaving aggressive/conservative alone for both offense and defense?
      For now, yes.. I want to play a few games and see how it goes.. After last nights quick test I'm giving ea benefit of the doubt.. I think the patch helped.. Just have to start a new dynasty for it to take affect!
      J-E-T-S
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      • PioneerRaptor
        Rookie
        • May 2008
        • 466

        #753
        Re: Matt10's Heisman **Very Slow Speed** Sliders

        Originally posted by Chedapalooza
        For now, yes.. I want to play a few games and see how it goes.. After last nights quick test I'm giving ea benefit of the doubt.. I think the patch helped.. Just have to start a new dynasty for it to take affect!
        That's good and bad. I'm in Year 4 and would hate to start over. However, if it really does help that much, I would be willing to do. Hopefully others can clarify this.

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        • RollinsRedSox
          Rookie
          • Mar 2004
          • 7

          #754
          Re: Matt10's Heisman **Very Slow Speed** Sliders

          if we do have to start new dynasties, I wonder if launching a new dynasty from the save file of your current dynasty will do the trick?

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          • Chedapalooza
            MVP
            • Jul 2011
            • 2467

            #755
            Re: Matt10's Heisman **Very Slow Speed** Sliders

            Originally posted by RollinsRedSox
            if we do have to start new dynasties, I wonder if launching a new dynasty from the save file of your current dynasty will do the trick?
            interesting idea. im not sure AT ALL.. but i suppose its worth a shot if youre super attached to a particular one.. i think you would be able to tell the difference (or not) in gameplay...

            otherwise-- anyone got updates here?
            J-E-T-S
            WCSU Football '10-'11 WR#87
            UCONN HUSKIES Football
            D2 Football Coach (receivers) in the PSAC

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            • RollinsRedSox
              Rookie
              • Mar 2004
              • 7

              #756
              Re: Matt10's Heisman **Very Slow Speed** Sliders

              Originally posted by Chedapalooza
              interesting idea. im not sure AT ALL.. but i suppose its worth a shot if youre super attached to a particular one.. i think you would be able to tell the difference (or not) in gameplay...

              otherwise-- anyone got updates here?
              is there any other way for me to tell if the patch has been implemented apart from the safety play? wasnt there something about the names appearing pre-snap that was broken and fixed too? I feel like its playing better but it could just be placebo.

              Im in a 5 team dynasty with some of my buddies and we are finishing year 2, nobody wants to restart and have to bring in all new players now that "our guys" are getting ready to be big contributores.

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              • aerovt
                Rookie
                • Oct 2009
                • 308

                #757
                Re: Matt10's Heisman **Very Slow Speed** Sliders

                Ok, after using this set as a base, I made a few modifications. I basically felt passing was too easy and running too hard (for both users and CPU). These sliders are an attempt to adjust that, while also lowering the spd threshold to produce more accurate speed differences. Feel free to try these out, though they are still a bit of a work in progress.

                I've bolded the values I tweaked so you can get a quick idea of what is different if interested

                User/CPU
                QBA 5/20
                PBL 0/0
                WRC 45/55
                RBA 60/70
                RBL 50/50
                PCV 70/95
                PRsh 20/0
                Int 40/40
                RD 60/55
                Tck 45/35
                Special teams sliders havent been changed
                Spd threshold: 65 (thinking about tweaking to ~68 to boost DB coverage without having to put PCV at 100)

                On an unrelated note, is anyone else having troubles with getting counters to work this year? In general it seems most plays that have a pulling guard or tackle are getting blown up more often than not as a LB rushes through the pulled gap. Dives and Power O's seem to work great though
                Last edited by aerovt; 08-18-2012, 12:18 PM.

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                • BallinVol
                  MVP
                  • May 2003
                  • 1191

                  #758
                  Re: Matt10's Heisman **Very Slow Speed** Sliders

                  Originally posted by Matt10
                  Damnit, Cheda - that sounds nice (safeties) - so you believe a restart of the dynasty is what's needed? That would make me sad in regards to my report...but happy because this would be fixed...Anyone else?
                  Matt, I was seeing the same thing. It's definitely night and day when it comes to the safeties in an ongoing dynasty compared to a NEW dynasty. Definitely glad that I am starting over!

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                  • Chedapalooza
                    MVP
                    • Jul 2011
                    • 2467

                    #759
                    Re: Matt10's Heisman **Very Slow Speed** Sliders

                    still cannot decide if coaching sliders are needed at this point.. they were a great fix for safety and screen issues. both of which seem to actually have been fixed.. its also hard to find an up to date roster with arkansaw's coach sliders.. theyre all older versions...

                    on a side- anyone using the 'reverse' coach sliders, have you noticed a large amount of int's? perhaps due to increased coverage ability/awareness
                    J-E-T-S
                    WCSU Football '10-'11 WR#87
                    UCONN HUSKIES Football
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                    • bcduggan
                      MVP
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 659

                      #760
                      Originally posted by BallinVol
                      Matt, I was seeing the same thing. It's definitely night and day when it comes to the safeties in an ongoing dynasty compared to a NEW dynasty. Definitely glad that I am starting over!
                      So would this be the same effect in online dynasty as well

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                      • BallinVol
                        MVP
                        • May 2003
                        • 1191

                        #761
                        Re: Matt10's Heisman **Very Slow Speed** Sliders

                        I would believe so

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                        • bcduggan
                          MVP
                          • Mar 2009
                          • 659

                          #762
                          Re: Matt10's Heisman **Very Slow Speed** Sliders

                          About these sliders:

                          only changes I made were cpu QBA lowered to 10 and kac for both user and cpu lowered to 35.

                          Am planning on restarting my online dynasty, fortunately its only a 2 person dynasty, the other guy is cool about starting over. He suggested lowering user and cpu run D, if I lower both do I need to make an adjustment to "even it out"?

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                          • nortobc
                            Banned
                            • Jul 2004
                            • 1130

                            #763
                            Originally posted by Chedapalooza
                            still cannot decide if coaching sliders are needed at this point.. they were a great fix for safety and screen issues. both of which seem to actually have been fixed.. its also hard to find an up to date roster with arkansaw's coach sliders.. theyre all older versions...

                            on a side- anyone using the 'reverse' coach sliders, have you noticed a large amount of int's? perhaps due to increased coverage ability/awareness
                            I think arkansas coach slidera made sim results for cpu games more realistic. The better teams wins most of the time. Very few upsets.

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                            • nortobc
                              Banned
                              • Jul 2004
                              • 1130

                              #764
                              Im going to start a new online dynasty and report results.

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                              • bcduggan
                                MVP
                                • Mar 2009
                                • 659

                                #765
                                Re: Matt10's Heisman **Very Slow Speed** Sliders

                                Been testing sliders with new patch in various dynasties

                                The good

                                Less cpu screen passes/ less screen sacks. I think I got maybe 1 in 5-6 games.
                                Seeing less of cpu aggressive zone. It's still there, just doesn't seem like it's as much.
                                Seeing less robo qb, however, I am using cpu qba 10, but it's less than before patch at 10.

                                The bad

                                Compared to cpu getting very few user team interceptions, even when user defender leaps to intercept pass. Before I was getting reasonable # of interceptions although most were leaping. Now not getting any. On same note, computer is not deflecting enough passes, and all interceptions seem to be leaping/high point interceptions.
                                Even with good running teams, not being able to run to the outside. I think I have 1 really good outsde run in the games played since patch, it was getting bad before patch now it feels worse. User blockers tend to stand and watch the defender run right where the defenders are trying to get where they need to go. Best play I have seen work consistently, maybe too well, is the read option plays. Also see the Oline just watch the defender run by on pass plays as well.
                                Broken tackles ratio for cpu to user is too high, not saying user should be breaking more tackles, but cpu should be less.
                                When there is robo qb, it's been thru most of the game.
                                User team sacks is too high.

                                I am not trying to be critical of the sliders. If some of the bad is me, then any suggestions on how to help my game would be appreciated.

                                Thanks
                                Brian

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