50(ish) Threshold-based Slider Set for NCAA 14

[JoshC1977]

Re: 50(ish) Threshold-based Slider Set for NCAA 14

I think your sack levels are about right now.

The CPU deep game....boy, I can write a very large tome describing this. Here are a few things that determine the tendency of the CPU to attack deep:

• How you play on defense...the CPU adjusts to what IS and IS NOT working based on how you play (you can roll player ratings into this one)
• THP and STR rating of the QB
• Overall tightness of coverage (too tight, no throw....)
• Amount of time in the pocket (which is why keeping CPU PBK at 50 is key)
• The playbook being used
• The QB's style (most scramblers will take-off before a deep pass develops)

I can go on...but I think you get the idea....lots of variables. I have some games where I see a ton of deep balls, others where I don't. When you know there is a problem though is when the CPU starts running screens on every god-forsaken third down. As long as you're still seeing the pass variety, then the deep balls will come.


Note: if you tweaked your user PBK slider up, that could also affect the CPUs deep game....

[Frank the Tank]

Re: 50(ish) Threshold-based Slider Set for NCAA 14

There certainly is variety in the game results. I played Alabama against Ole Miss, and even with all of Alabama's talent on the front 7, I could not stop their running game, they had like 267 yards. Their puny running backs just wouldn't go down. And their QB threw just one incompletion. (Although I basically count screen passes as incompletions. They gain about the same yardage half the time.) Then I played Washington State against Stanford, and basically shut down the Stanford running game despite greatly inferior talent.

Does it matter that Ole Miss runs spread while Stanford runs a power game? Just curious if you ever thought about using different sliders depending on the style of opponent. But at least the Stanford defense presented a good level of toughness. They just shut down my WRs, rarely was anyone open. So I had to turn to the running game with WSU. It totally didn't feel right, and it didn't work that great, either, except I broke through the line for a few big runs.

So I'd say the difficulty against the defense is about right now. It feels about like it should.

Here is one last question, I hope. On kickoff returns, do the blockers block based on run blocking skill or pass blocking skill?

[JoshC1977]

Re: 50(ish) Threshold-based Slider Set for NCAA 14

There certainly is variety in the game results. I played Alabama against Ole Miss, and even with all of Alabama's talent on the front 7, I could not stop their running game, they had like 267 yards. Their puny running backs just wouldn't go down. And their QB threw just one incompletion. (Although I basically count screen passes as incompletions. They gain about the same yardage half the time.) Then I played Washington State against Stanford, and basically shut down the Stanford running game despite greatly inferior talent.

Does it matter that Ole Miss runs spread while Stanford runs a power game? Just curious if you ever thought about using different sliders depending on the style of opponent. But at least the Stanford defense presented a good level of toughness. They just shut down my WRs, rarely was anyone open. So I had to turn to the running game with WSU. It totally didn't feel right, and it didn't work that great, either, except I broke through the line for a few big runs.

So I'd say the difficulty against the defense is about right now. It feels about like it should.

Here is one last question, I hope. On kickoff returns, do the blockers block based on run blocking skill or pass blocking skill?

I considered separate sliders for play styles a long time ago - but really, if set up correctly, one slider set should be universal and reflect a team's philosophy. Every game WILL though, as you alluded to, feel different. It may not always make sense...but neither does college football.

No idea on the KO return blocking question....I can't even speculate.

[BlackRain37]

Re: 50(ish) Threshold-based Slider Set for NCAA 14

There certainly is variety in the game results. I played Alabama against Ole Miss, and even with all of Alabama's talent on the front 7, I could not stop their running game, they had like 267 yards. Their puny running backs just wouldn't go down. And their QB threw just one incompletion. (Although I basically count screen passes as incompletions. They gain about the same yardage half the time.) Then I played Washington State against Stanford, and basically shut down the Stanford running game despite greatly inferior talent.

Does it matter that Ole Miss runs spread while Stanford runs a power game? Just curious if you ever thought about using different sliders depending on the style of opponent. But at least the Stanford defense presented a good level of toughness. They just shut down my WRs, rarely was anyone open. So I had to turn to the running game with WSU. It totally didn't feel right, and it didn't work that great, either, except I broke through the line for a few big runs.

So I'd say the difficulty against the defense is about right now. It feels about like it should.

Here is one last question, I hope. On kickoff returns, do the blockers block based on run blocking skill or pass blocking skill?

In my experience, the spread seems to be more run friendly than a pro set. My games against Stanford vary year to year based on their personal. One year I pretty much hold them "in check" to 130 rushing yards or so.....the next year, they roll for 200+....very reflective of real life IMO

[JoshC1977]

Re: 50(ish) Threshold-based Slider Set for NCAA 14

In my experience, the spread seems to be more run friendly than a pro set. My games against Stanford vary year to year based on their personal. One year I pretty much hold them "in check" to 130 rushing yards or so.....the next year, they roll for 200+....very reflective of real life IMO

True enough....that's the entire point of the spread....to spread out the defense to make it easier to run....it's why so many college teams (especially lower level teams) go with it....you don't need kick A** players to get the job done....though they help.

[ncromnd]

Re: 50(ish) Threshold-based Slider Set for NCAA 14

Hay hay!! Here's a video of me getting out played as kstate!!https://vimeo.com/173855116

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[ncromnd]

Re: 50(ish) Threshold-based Slider Set for NCAA 14

Granted josh all is the same as it was when u left the set as it. And the joshc1977 file the same that's what km playing with

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[ncromnd]

Re: 50(ish) Threshold-based Slider Set for NCAA 14

https://vimeo.com/173855972 I'm gaining momentum w this first down conversion down 14-7

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[ncromnd]

Re: 50(ish) Threshold-based Slider Set for NCAA 14

Love it!

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[JoshC1977]

Re: 50(ish) Threshold-based Slider Set for NCAA 14

Howdy All!

I have been doing a ton of testing the last few weeks. The goal has been to give the defense some teeth while keeping the CPU offense as deadly as possible.

One thing I have come to realize is that the main menu slider settings directly influence the dynasty sliders. I'm still not sure to what extent or the precise parameters, but, like Madden, there is a 'merging' of the settings between them. I stumbled across it by accident, but the following setup has worked quite well.

The one setting that I consider to be optional is the CPU RBA value in the main menu (100 is very high...if you're a glutton for punishment, you'll enjoy it...if you want to tame it, feel free to do so).

Hope all of you enjoy!! The OP has been updated. I also updated my PS3 2013 roster with all of the coach setting adjustments to the server under the user name JoshC1977.

[jhogan3132]

Re: 50(ish) Threshold-based Slider Set for NCAA 14

What effect has HFA being on had on these sliders?


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[JoshC1977]

Re: 50(ish) Threshold-based Slider Set for NCAA 14

What effect has HFA being on had on these sliders?


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Hfa in general doesn't work well. It functions more as a 'keep games close' function instead of how it should be based on ratings.

[ncromnd]

Re: 50(ish) Threshold-based Slider Set for NCAA 14

What are the new updates again? Rba 100??? Lol josh?? I'm going to try it, I thought it was good before, hey is ur joshc1977 file still the same?

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[ncromnd]

Re: 50(ish) Threshold-based Slider Set for NCAA 14

Omg nvm you answered all my questions well time to pick a team and go!!!!

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[JoshC1977]

Re: 50(ish) Threshold-based Slider Set for NCAA 14

Omg nvm you answered all my questions well time to pick a team and go!!!!

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Lol...I try to be thorough...

The 100 RBA in the main menu seems extreme, but the penalty adjustments really stiffen the defense quite a bit. Unless you have a mismatch, I still think it is fair. I have been totally gashed some games and have held opponents well in others.