50(ish) Threshold-based Slider Set for NCAA 14

[canes21]

Re: 50(ish) Threshold-based Slider Set for NCAA 14

Sorry if this has been answered, but do the main menu settings have an impact in online dynasties like they do offline?

[JoshC1977]

Re: 50(ish) Threshold-based Slider Set for NCAA 14

Sorry if this has been answered, but do the main menu settings have an impact in online dynasties like they do offline?

I have zero idea. I've never played online.

[Hunkerdown]

Re: 50(ish) Threshold-based Slider Set for NCAA 14

This is a tricky balance and the major reason I went back to default gameplay sliders. I flat out got sick and tired of watching the CPU throw to the TEs over and over. It's way better, but even now, it still isn't where I want it. The main issue with the CPU QB play on nearly every EA game is that the CPU QBs don't read a receiver who has a step on a defender as "open", even if he is the top-rated guy who is the primary on the play.

I've actually gone back to testing some things on this game. I'm taking another long look at the autosub settings plus a couple of other things which I am keeping under wraps for now. I'm not trying to be a tease, but I literally do not know right now if I am dealing with legit improvements or if it is a placebo. Stay tuned.

josh,

I dusted off 360, any updates to OP? I tested, game was solid, just qbs super accurate, ex. akron qb was 24-26. You have suggested roster? default? maybe one I downloaded effecting gameplay?

[jhendricks316]

Re: 50(ish) Threshold-based Slider Set for NCAA 14

I cannot access the JPG file of the sliders in the OP. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

[honkyplaya]

Re: 50(ish) Threshold-based Slider Set for NCAA 14

Took a brief hiatus from NCAA for a couple months....I prefer to watch the real games during the season and get the itch back going into conference championship weekend each year. I am at work pondering the sub slider for each coach. I know you had mentioned about making it more difficult for the user by raising our coaches sub sliders to 60 or 65. Any idea if raising both user and cpu coaches sub slider to 85 would add more to the dynamics of stamina and possibly more fumbles, without hurting gameplay?

[JoshC1977]

Re: 50(ish) Threshold-based Slider Set for NCAA 14

Took a brief hiatus from NCAA for a couple months....I prefer to watch the real games during the season and get the itch back going into conference championship weekend each year. I am at work pondering the sub slider for each coach. I know you had mentioned about making it more difficult for the user by raising our coaches sub sliders to 60 or 65. Any idea if raising both user and cpu coaches sub slider to 85 would add more to the dynamics of stamina and possibly more fumbles, without hurting gameplay?

It will probably make the game far too easy in all honesty. I would do some test runs before implementing globally....

[honkyplaya]

Re: 50(ish) Threshold-based Slider Set for NCAA 14

It will probably make the game far too easy in all honesty. I would do some test runs before implementing globally....

10-4, I will have to hold off testing until I can narrow down my pass game. I still havent figured out how to get confident in passing and not throw more int's than td's. My only saving grace is that my ground game is clicking.

Do you use the in game coaching adjustments? In the past I always felt it was cheese with the sliders. This set I just cant seem to get the WR to focus on the catch or be aggressive enough to fight for the ball. If you see something off in the run game or pass game, or on defense, do you take advantage of the coaching adjustments or just take what you are given and adjust with play calling?

[JoshC1977]

Re: 50(ish) Threshold-based Slider Set for NCAA 14

10-4, I will have to hold off testing until I can narrow down my pass game. I still havent figured out how to get confident in passing and not throw more int's than td's. My only saving grace is that my ground game is clicking.

Do you use the in game coaching adjustments? In the past I always felt it was cheese with the sliders. This set I just cant seem to get the WR to focus on the catch or be aggressive enough to fight for the ball. If you see something off in the run game or pass game, or on defense, do you take advantage of the coaching adjustments or just take what you are given and adjust with play calling?

I use them situationally. The adaptive AI in the game seems to respond pretty well to things so I don't feel too cheesy doing it. I do tend to use them more when on defense than on offense...usually to get the CPU out of tendencies....if they are successful on a certain play type...they will pound it to death until you shut it down.

[Robo COP]

Re: 50(ish) Threshold-based Slider Set for NCAA 14

Josh (or anyone who has used these sliders a bit), have any input on how the CPU plays vs the read option?

I love the idea of reverting back to AA and 50 sliders, but I remember the CPU was always terrible vs the read option, and that was one of the biggest reasons I ever started looking for sliders many years ago

Also, have you ever tested or played as just a coordinator? I know the vast amount of testing is as a HC, I was just curious if anyone knows/feels if the gameplay plays differently as a coordinator.

[honkyplaya]

Re: 50(ish) Threshold-based Slider Set for NCAA 14

Josh (or anyone who has used these sliders a bit), have any input on how the CPU plays vs the read option?

I love the idea of reverting back to AA and 50 sliders, but I remember the CPU was always terrible vs the read option, and that was one of the biggest reasons I ever started looking for sliders many years ago

Also, have you ever tested or played as just a coordinator? I know the vast amount of testing is as a HC, I was just curious if anyone knows/feels if the gameplay plays differently as a coordinator.

Depends on who you play against. Thats why I love this set so much. I've had times where I can run all over a team with the read option, other times where I cant run period. Depends on who its against and ratings rather than always being a gimme. Also I noticed that I may have ran all over them the first half, but eventually they start to adapt. Set the sliders up how he has them listed. Make sure you set your coaches and their coaches up how he recommends. And like he says, dont take the first game or even two as your benchmark for how these play. If you think its too easy or too hard, take some time to dive into the stats of how your players stack up against your competition.

I have gone undefeated so far in the MAC, but my QB is 98ovr, receivers in the mid to high 80's, and HB is 88. My only loss is to a ranked Missouri team, and I am dreading my bowl game as I know they will be ranked and I will get hammered. If your looking for a set that requires elite talent to make a run at a championship, as well as depth to make consecutive runs each year....I havent played a set that does all that and play so smooth as these ones.

[JoshC1977]

Re: 50(ish) Threshold-based Slider Set for NCAA 14

Josh (or anyone who has used these sliders a bit), have any input on how the CPU plays vs the read option?

I love the idea of reverting back to AA and 50 sliders, but I remember the CPU was always terrible vs the read option, and that was one of the biggest reasons I ever started looking for sliders many years ago

Also, have you ever tested or played as just a coordinator? I know the vast amount of testing is as a HC, I was just curious if anyone knows/feels if the gameplay plays differently as a coordinator.

I think honkyplaya really summed-up my feels regarding the read option with this set.

Back in the early days when the game came out, we didn't understand the impact of the various coach sliders, how autosubs impacted gameplay, or even the use of turning fatigue off in the main menu. Most people probably went to default gameplay sliders first, but immediately modified penalty sliders, autosubs, and so on to various settings...and yeah, those ancillary settings de-balanced the game and might very have well made AA rather easy at that time. With our limited understanding at that time, we immediately went to gameplay sliders to "fix" what we ourselves unwittingly broke....and it all went downhill.

This set is designed to keep things in balance and to allow the player ratings to stand-out the most. Also, being on AA, you see far less of the overdone player aggression that you see on Heisman (the Heisman aggression causing lack of proper contain on read option plays).

Hope this helps a bit.

[honkyplaya]

Re: 50(ish) Threshold-based Slider Set for NCAA 14

I think honkyplaya really summed-up my feels regarding the read option with this set.

Back in the early days when the game came out, we didn't understand the impact of the various coach sliders, how autosubs impacted gameplay, or even the use of turning fatigue off in the main menu. Most people probably went to default gameplay sliders first, but immediately modified penalty sliders, autosubs, and so on to various settings...and yeah, those ancillary settings de-balanced the game and might very have well made AA rather easy at that time. With our limited understanding at that time, we immediately went to gameplay sliders to "fix" what we ourselves unwittingly broke....and it all went downhill.

This set is designed to keep things in balance and to allow the player ratings to stand-out the most. Also, being on AA, you see far less of the overdone player aggression that you see on Heisman (the Heisman aggression causing lack of proper contain on read option plays).

Hope this helps a bit.

For anyone that dives deep into dynasty these are the way to go. If you want to run a specific type offense or defense, you def need to recruit to those specifics.I want games to play like the BIG championship....if you run a Wisconsin big brute type offense, you should struggle when that isnt working for you. If your a Penn State RPO type, your gonna struggle trying to power run. As you said its organic, very unscripted.

[VTHokie525]

Re: 50(ish) Threshold-based Slider Set for NCAA 14

Hey Josh, a while back ago you said you were working on something. Have you still been testing sliders or have you found anything new?

[Gtl420]

50(ish) Threshold-based Slider Set for NCAA 14

Has anyone ever attempted to use this set with updates penalty sliders?


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[OBinKC]

Re: 50(ish) Threshold-based Slider Set for NCAA 14

I think honkyplaya really summed-up my feels regarding the read option with this set.

Back in the early days when the game came out, we didn't understand the impact of the various coach sliders, how autosubs impacted gameplay, or even the use of turning fatigue off in the main menu. Most people probably went to default gameplay sliders first, but immediately modified penalty sliders, autosubs, and so on to various settings...and yeah, those ancillary settings de-balanced the game and might very have well made AA rather easy at that time. With our limited understanding at that time, we immediately went to gameplay sliders to "fix" what we ourselves unwittingly broke....and it all went downhill.

This set is designed to keep things in balance and to allow the player ratings to stand-out the most. Also, being on AA, you see far less of the overdone player aggression that you see on Heisman (the Heisman aggression causing lack of proper contain on read option plays).

Hope this helps a bit.

Thanks to you and honkyplaya for answering the recent questions. They have answered some questions I had, because after still trying to find a ratings-based challenge on Heisman with as tough of sliders I can use and still beating teams rated well above me, I am ready to give this set a try. But I do have a couple more questions, and my apologies if they’ve been answered before but I couldn’t find them.

1. Can I use this set with Fatigue OFF or will it mess with the setup? I just can’t stand the CPU quitting in the second half. I end up going undefeated every season because all I need to do is keep the game close enough in the first half for the automatic victory.

2. Will an overpowering defensive line finally stop the shotgun runs? Yesterday (and this is the reason I’ve nearly lost all hope), I was playing with Texas State against a 2013 South Carolina roster complete with Jadeveon Clowney, on Heisman with USER run blocking at 5, RB ability at 40, and CPU rush defense at 50. And I ran for almost 200 yards. I don’t mind dominating the run game as long as I have the players to do so. But that was ridiculous.