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  • LovejoyOTF
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    • Nov 2010
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    #151
    Re: Madden NFL 15 Trailer - See The Transformation This June, Releases on August 26th

    " 'er indoors " is going to throw a lot of yanks.

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    • FaceMask
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      • Oct 2013
      • 847

      #152
      Re: Madden NFL 15 Trailer - See The Transformation This June, Releases on August 26th

      Originally posted by LovejoyOTF

      the whole british NFL fan is a tough one though. i think it's assumed we don't understand, like perhaps we naively believe a lot of the US don't "get" soccer, but we both know it couldn't be further from the truth.
      Big difference is, in the U.S. soccer is played all over the country with a lot of Kids leagues, Junior High systems, High School systems, Collegiate systems, and a few pro leagues. I'd be surprised if American football has even 1/10th the level of participation in Britain as Soccer has in America.

      The fact that soccer actually has that much penetration in the U.S. market makes it strange to me that the sport isn't more popular at the pro level here in the U.S.
      Last edited by FaceMask; 05-02-2014, 12:03 PM.

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      • Trick13
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        • Oct 2012
        • 780

        #153
        Re: Madden NFL 15 Trailer - See The Transformation This June, Releases on August 26th

        Originally posted by FaceMask
        Big difference is, in the U.S. soccer is played all over the country with a lot of Kids leagues, Junior High systems, High School systems, Collegiate systems, and a few pro leagues. I'd be surprised if American football has even 1/10th the level of participation in Britain as Soccer has in America.

        The fact that soccer actually has that much penetration in the U.S. market makes it strange to me that the sport isn't more popular at the pro level here in the U.S.


        Soccer is boring. It is like hockey without the fist fights - zero point. Not enough scoring, not enough meaningful action for a casual fan.
        In football and basketball - America's two top sports - there is constant action - basketball has tons of scoring and football has hitting on every play.


        Soccer is a good sport for kids - non-contact and tons of cardio, but as an adult sports fan I am not interested. Personally, I would love to see soccer banned from TV. It is like watching paint dry. Hockey, to me is fairly boring too, but at least hockey has checking and the occasional glove dropping action. I would rather watch lacrosse, women's volleyball (more for the scenery) heck I would rather watch women's college softball than soccer.


        You may disagree with my sentiments, and I don't begrudge anyone of their opinion, but that is how many Americans view soccer.

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        • FaceMask
          Banned
          • Oct 2013
          • 847

          #154
          Re: Madden NFL 15 Trailer - See The Transformation This June, Releases on August 26th

          Originally posted by Trick13
          Soccer is boring.

          *snip*

          You may disagree with my sentiments, and I don't begrudge anyone of their opinion, but that is how many Americans view soccer.
          I actually agree 100%. But then again, I find every sport boring except for football, so I'm probably not the best judge on that end.

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          • roadman
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            • Aug 2003
            • 26339

            #155
            Re: Madden NFL 15 Trailer - See The Transformation This June, Releases on August 26th

            Eh, to me, watching golf is boring as watching paint dry.

            Our son plays soccer at the collegiate level, so, no, soccer isn't boring to us and we enjoy watching on tv.

            Different strokes....................

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            • Trick13
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              • Oct 2012
              • 780

              #156
              Re: Madden NFL 15 Trailer - See The Transformation This June, Releases on August 26th

              Originally posted by roadman
              Eh, to me, watching golf is boring as watching paint dry.

              Our son plays soccer at the collegiate level, so, no, soccer isn't boring to us and we enjoy watching on tv.

              Different strokes....................


              Fair enough, but I wonder if you did not have that vested interest (your son plays the game) would it interest you at all? Not that it matters really. Great thing about life is the differences, so at this point I am just asking because of my curiosity rather than attempting any counter point.

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              • Soprano00
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                • Mar 2012
                • 248

                #157
                Re: Madden NFL 15 Trailer - See The Transformation This June, Releases on August 26th

                Originally posted by Trick13
                Fair enough, but I wonder if you did not have that vested interest (your son plays the game) would it interest you at all? Not that it matters really. Great thing about life is the differences, so at this point I am just asking because of my curiosity rather than attempting any counter point.
                I don't get your point: soccer is a game which makes hundreds of millions of people around the world watch it with passion and emotion, and not because they have a son playing it I'm European and play American Football in real life (yes: here in Europe) but I can see the beauty of both sports. American Football is much less dinamic if you analyze it, how much time in a game the ball is in movement ? 5 minutes maximum ? However I agree that many games of soccer may seem boring because there are no scores, but a person liking the game still may appreciate the strategic side of it, how a defense is able to stop a very powerful offense, for example.
                On the other side an "All American" sport which for me is really boring to watch is baseball

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                • roadman
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                  • Aug 2003
                  • 26339

                  #158
                  Re: Madden NFL 15 Trailer - See The Transformation This June, Releases on August 26th

                  Originally posted by Trick13
                  Fair enough, but I wonder if you did not have that vested interest (your son plays the game) would it interest you at all? Not that it matters really. Great thing about life is the differences, so at this point I am just asking because of my curiosity rather than attempting any counter point.
                  I would like to believe, so, yes. All three of our kids played soccer at one level or another. We didn't have soccer around us where I grew up. Heck, we've met other soccer parents throughout the years who we are still friends with. I doubt we ever meet these people without crossing paths with soccer.

                  I appreciate not growing up with something and learning about it later in life.

                  So, once we learned how the game was played and the different styles of play, we started to appreciate the game more plus the friendships our children and the parents endured and still have to this day.

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                  • Trick13
                    Pro
                    • Oct 2012
                    • 780

                    #159
                    Re: Madden NFL 15 Trailer - See The Transformation This June, Releases on August 26th

                    Originally posted by Soprano00
                    I don't get your point: soccer is a game which makes hundreds of millions of people around the world watch it with passion and emotion, and not because they have a son playing it I'm European and play American Football in real life (yes: here in Europe) but I can see the beauty of both sports. American Football is much less dinamic if you analyze it, how much time in a game the ball is in movement ? 5 minutes maximum ? However I agree that many games of soccer may seem boring because there are no scores, but a person liking the game still may appreciate the strategic side of it, how a defense is able to stop a very powerful offense, for example.
                    On the other side an "All American" sport which for me is really boring to watch is baseball


                    Look, I was not "attacking soccer". Just giving my opinion, which in my travels across the US (I have been in all 50 states and lived for 3 months or more in 20 of them) is commonplace within American society. I am not claiming to be an expert, just articulating my perspective and the ones I have been privy to.


                    I have played the game - many moons ago as a child in the Mesa, AZ area. I understand the basics and it is still boring to me, especially to watch. I imagine it is a bit like baseball which is dreadful on TV, and I mean absolutely dreadful. You just watch the pitcher and hitter all game long. You rarely see the defensive shifts, the varying depths of the outfielders - I hate the way baseball is broadcast on TV. That being said, I love to play baseball, or rec league softball (I am getting old). And I do enjoy going to baseball games, despite the fact that I am not a "student of the game" at all. I am not one of those guys who can tell you who is leading the league in BA, or Ks, or saves. The baseball strike that occurred when I was in JR High school turned me off the pro game as a "follower" of the sport.


                    Soccer on the other hand, I don't enjoy - at all. It is fairly simple. I don't like it. I am not trying to convince anyone else to not like it, I just don't. The fact that millions of people like it is irrelevant to me. I have never been influenced much by outside opinions, even though I am smart enough to respect them and see their value.


                    Roadman, I hope you realize I meant no disrespect to you or yours. I was just curious if you felt that your son playing was the largest factor in your appreciation for the game. And their was no reason behind the question - I am just naturally curious. If I offended anyone, I apologize - truly.
                    Last edited by Trick13; 05-03-2014, 01:33 PM.

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                    • charter04
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                      • May 2010
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                      #160
                      Re: Madden NFL 15 Trailer - See The Transformation This June, Releases on August 26th

                      Boy O Boy. I thought this was the Madden Trailer thread. Lol not sure were this is going. Maybe you guys should start a general sports discussion thread.
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                      • N51_rob
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                        #161
                        Re: Madden NFL 15 Trailer - See The Transformation This June, Releases on August 26th

                        Yes, please get this thread back on topic.


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                        • bxphenom7
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                          • Feb 2012
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                          #162
                          What if this is finally the year Madden breaks the mold of being the same game every year and takes that pivotal step in become legendary like NFL 2k5? Only time will tell. Doubt it though...again...EA hasn't given me a reason to buy Madden since Madden 08 lol

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                          • Ueauvan
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                            • Mar 2009
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                            #163
                            Re: Madden NFL 15 Trailer - See The Transformation This June, Releases on August 26th

                            i apologise if my post then spawned the derailment, it wasn't meant to.
                            as an aside when i graduated in 87 i was pondering doing a Ph.D. in Marketing. The topic i submitted was "Marketing American Football in Europe compared to marketing Association Football in the US"

                            i lined up a SERC grant (govt funding) and part time tutoring which would have made me a cash rich post grad in a target rich environment This was when World league was going and soccer was very small in the US. Then a certain large global company offered me a job the bastages ...

                            anyhoo back to the thread, a lot of us outside of the 50 states are avid fans, using NFL network, gamepass, espn etc to keep in touch with the game. I am staying up all days of the draft with my gf ('er indoors) playing madden and ncaa while watching the picks.

                            i have a hypothesis that a lot of brit madden players are over 30 and in my case nearly 50 as i started watching in the days of montana and lott

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                            • adroscoe
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                              • May 2014
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                              #164
                              I've read on several post that the Madden team has been going around scanning players faces for Madden 15 and plan to scan as many players as possible up until their deadline. They also mentioned that Madden will look much more real as they are able to save much more texture on the PS4 format that they couldn't in the past.

                              I do not want to be fooled again but this sounds promising....idk

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                              • strawberryshortcake
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                                • Sep 2009
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                                #165
                                Re: Madden NFL 15 Trailer - See The Transformation This June, Releases on August 26th

                                Originally posted by adroscoe
                                I've read on several post that the Madden team has been going around scanning players faces for Madden 15 and plan to scan as many players as possible up until their deadline. They also mentioned that Madden will look much more real as they are able to save much more texture on the PS4 format that they couldn't in the past.

                                I do not want to be fooled again but this sounds promising....idk
                                ... "They also mentioned that Madden will look much more real as they are able to save much more texture on the PS4 format that they couldn't in the past."

                                We're they referring to static magazine still images or the actual product in motion when one is playing the game?
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