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  • NDAlum
    ND
    • Jun 2010
    • 11453

    #331
    Re: Was/has there been any franchise info released?

    Originally posted by CM Hooe
    Just came across this:





    Take that for what you will. Not sure if its as big a win as custom draft classes would be, but the online draft guide issue was a big problem for multiplayer online CFMs which sorely needed to be addressed.
    My concern is that he only means it won't be sequential like past years. I want random names/ratings/colleges...everything. The way it is worded it sounds like they could have 30 draft classes but they'll be randomized instead of sequential order. But the class population will remain static.
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    • Hooe
      Hall Of Fame
      • Aug 2002
      • 21554

      #332
      Re: Was/has there been any franchise info released?

      Originally posted by NDAlum
      My concern is that he only means it won't be sequential like past years. I want random names/ratings/colleges...everything. The way it is worded it sounds like they could have 30 draft classes but they'll be randomized instead of sequential order. But the class population will remain static.
      "Guides will be useless this year" implies to me that, regardless if the tailored draft classes are ordered or unordered, users will not be able to document the players to crib sheets to create cheat sheets for all online players going forward, which is the biggest concern.

      I personally don't really care if the 30 draft classes are completely random or not so long as other users I can't control can no longer game the system, putting me at a disadvantage because I choose to not read said guides. Fairness is my biggest concern.

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      • LorenzoDC
        MVP
        • Sep 2010
        • 1857

        #333
        Re: Was/has there been any franchise info released?

        Originally posted by NDAlum
        My concern is that he only means it won't be sequential like past years. I want random names/ratings/colleges...everything. The way it is worded it sounds like they could have 30 draft classes but they'll be randomized instead of sequential order. But the class population will remain static.
        I don't see how they can keep their fascination with story lines and truly randomize. Sure, they can shuffle the draft class deck in random order, but that's just an increment, not a solution.

        They have only gone about this by increments. They introduced some alternate outcomes for some story line players, and created some randomized potential ratings for a subset of non-story line players in the draft last year. Looman said that would make the draft guides obsolete last year. But it didn't.

        Taking the structure from last year and allowing any of the 30 draft classes to appear in random order will not solve any of this. The only way I can see they could solve it would be to let go of the story lines.

        In that case, you could randomize names and ratings for any draft class. With how much Looman seemed to be enamored of the whole story line feature, I doubt they let it go.

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        • Toupal
          MVP
          • May 2014
          • 1296

          #334
          Re: Was/has there been any franchise info released?

          If only there was a way around the draft classes, by allowing us to edit them...

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          • ggsimmonds
            Hall Of Fame
            • Jan 2009
            • 11235

            #335
            Re: Was/has there been any franchise info released?

            Originally posted by Cowboy008
            Didn't they say this before though?
            And their "fix" did more harm then good. By introducing a random element it resulted in messed up ratings. I got a CB rated 88 strength. The draft classes actually got worse this past year. Way to go EA.

            I really hope Clint was being sneaky and in two weeks or so will come out and say guides will be useless because of the edit draft class feature. But I am also hoping to be captain of the starship Enterprise.

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            • Reejer
              Rookie
              • Jun 2010
              • 191

              #336
              Re: Was/has there been any franchise info released?

              Originally posted by LorenzoDC
              The only way I can see they could solve it would be to let go of the story lines.
              They can maintain the storylines and just randomize the players names, and schools.

              Ex: Have a one and done, roulette set of storylines for each position, draft projection, etc. then fit the storyline with the appropriate positional (a low CTH rating could fit into a storyline about a player that dropped a couple of passes at the Combine), and universal ratings (a low INJ rating could fit into an injury prone storyline). Then you would just have to adjust the code to insert a random player name, picture, and school.

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              • Birdman85
                Rookie
                • Jun 2014
                • 20

                #337
                Re: Was/has there been any franchise info released?

                Originally posted by goravens2052
                Looks like I'm sticking to my PS3 and Madden 25 with created rookies for another year. As much as I like the defensive improvements, I'm more of an offline franchise guy and enjoy rebuilding teams. I was hoping for this so I can have the actual 2015 draft class. Plus at this point, it seems there will be no vast improvement to it so Madden 25 and the PS3 it is.
                I love the offline franchise. If they don't add some kind of a draft class editing feature, I'll be ok playing Madden 07 and 08 on my PS2 and I'll stick with 25 on the PS3. I don't mind using created prospects (when they are put together well like on 07 for the PS2) but I can't remember ever completing more than a year on the recent Maddens because of how stupid these bogus classes are. And while I am mentioning the PS2 games, why can't they just go back to that? Training camp, still had progressing throughout the season, and you could actually scout the draft prospects.

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                • Birdman85
                  Rookie
                  • Jun 2014
                  • 20

                  #338
                  Re: Was/has there been any franchise info released?

                  I'm okay with the old games, the new madden was gonna be the game that pushed me to get a PS4, but I'm not interested spending close to $500 for a gamble that EA has put together a good game. I think that everyone is over looking the fact that this game could very well be loaded with bugs and glitches, they are re doing the whole game play and what not, first year could be rough.

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                  • MajorSupreme
                    MVP
                    • Aug 2013
                    • 1559

                    #339
                    Re: Was/has there been any franchise info released?

                    A practice squad would be nice. It was in Madden 12 PSP, but never since. Really?

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                    • msdm27
                      Pro
                      • Nov 2009
                      • 956

                      #340
                      Re: Was/has there been any franchise info released?

                      Glimmer of hope for CFM....

                      Regarding EA being aware of flawed draft classes......

                      Doc Digital ‏@MadScientist06 43m
                      @DiegoMB27 @ClintOldenburg Hey man. Yes, they know. That's one of the big issues we've discussed with them in our feedback sessions.

                      Doc Digital ‏@MadScientist06 43m
                      @DiegoMB27 @ClintOldenburg Not just CBs, but SS, FS, HBs, FBs as well.

                      Doc Digital ‏@MadScientist06 26m
                      @DiegoMB27 @ClintOldenburg Oh yeah, WRs too. I passed along some stats of one of my draft classes to demonstrate the point.

                      Big props to MadScientist for answering my question too, he wasn't even tagged in my original tweet to Clint. Cool stuff! Hopefully the new draft classes are much more realistic, given the lack of options.

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                      • StefJoeHalt
                        MVP
                        • Feb 2014
                        • 1058

                        #341
                        Re: Was/has there been any franchise info released?

                        Originally posted by msdm27
                        Glimmer of hope for CFM....

                        Regarding EA being aware of flawed draft classes......

                        Doc Digital ‏@MadScientist06 43m
                        @DiegoMB27 @ClintOldenburg Hey man. Yes, they know. That's one of the big issues we've discussed with them in our feedback sessions.

                        Doc Digital ‏@MadScientist06 43m
                        @DiegoMB27 @ClintOldenburg Not just CBs, but SS, FS, HBs, FBs as well.

                        Doc Digital ‏@MadScientist06 26m
                        @DiegoMB27 @ClintOldenburg Oh yeah, WRs too. I passed along some stats of one of my draft classes to demonstrate the point.

                        Big props to MadScientist for answering my question too, he wasn't even tagged in my original tweet to Clint. Cool stuff! Hopefully the new draft classes are much more realistic, given the lack of options.

                        But you would think..it is easier to have edits..then them try and fix it.


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                        • msdm27
                          Pro
                          • Nov 2009
                          • 956

                          #342
                          Re: Was/has there been any franchise info released?

                          Originally posted by StefJoeHalt
                          But you would think..it is easier to have edits..then them try and fix it.


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                          I don't think anyone argues that.... But since it was already confirmed editing is not in..... better draft classes gives some hope for a playable mode.

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                          • StefJoeHalt
                            MVP
                            • Feb 2014
                            • 1058

                            #343
                            Re: Was/has there been any franchise info released?

                            Originally posted by msdm27
                            I don't think anyone argues that.... But since it was already confirmed editing is not in..... better draft classes gives some hope for a playable mode.

                            Agreed but my worry is the past at which they have done this..their history tells me that getting class right is small %..but hope is all we have


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                            • Robcards
                              Rookie
                              • Aug 2011
                              • 2

                              #344
                              Re: Was/has there been any franchise info released?

                              Why in the world is editting draft classes not in the game? I was really looking forward to getting a next gen and m15, but if I'm forced to play with Rob Robinovich and Timmy Virgin, no thanks

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                              • LorenzoDC
                                MVP
                                • Sep 2010
                                • 1857

                                #345
                                Re: Was/has there been any franchise info released?

                                Originally posted by Reejer
                                They can maintain the storylines and just randomize the players names, and schools.

                                Ex: Have a one and done, roulette set of storylines for each position, draft projection, etc. then fit the storyline with the appropriate positional (a low CTH rating could fit into a storyline about a player that dropped a couple of passes at the Combine), and universal ratings (a low INJ rating could fit into an injury prone storyline). Then you would just have to adjust the code to insert a random player name, picture, and school.
                                No, it would also affect the in season draft related tweets, and the audio during the draft where specific player names are recorded for the story lines. So there's more to it than what you described.

                                Randomizing the players' names would require code to plug the random names into the draft tweets and audio during the draft that records the full possible range of fist and last names.

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