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  • Scott
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    • Jul 2002
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    #166
    Re: Madden NFL 15 Developer Livestream Starts at 4:30 PM EST, Watch it Here

    Originally posted by StL_RamZ
    for those who watched it

    is this the video?

    http://youtu.be/safhjnj8Occ
    Thanks for posting this...
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    • 4thQtrStre5S
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      • Nov 2013
      • 3051

      #167
      Re: Madden NFL 15 Developer Livestream Starts at 4:30 PM EST, Watch it Here

      Originally posted by GiantBlue76
      I wish Rex could enlighten us on the sliders and let us know if things work as they should. Also, a large document describing the sliders and what they do in detail would REALLY do wonders for the community. Is there any chance we could get that? Explain in detail what lowering and raising each slider actually does.
      AGREE 100,000,000%

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      • Big FN Deal
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        • Aug 2011
        • 5993

        #168
        Re: Madden NFL 15 Developer Livestream Starts at 4:30 PM EST, Watch it Here

        Originally posted by StL_RamZ
        for those who watched it

        is this the video?

        http://youtu.be/safhjnj8Occ
        Yes, it's the last 45 minutes of it, missing the first 35 minutes. I think the entire thing was like 1hr 20 minutes.

        I like the way Rex explained the tackling cone and what the entire concept behind it is, makes a lot more sense to me now. To those that haven't or can't see the video yet, one of my biggest complaints about Madden over the years has been the lack of contextual tackles in open space, not engaged with a blocker, which allowed the ball carrier to run beside, behind and slide off would be tacklers, since they weren't at a proper angle to trigger a tackle animation. It seems that the tackle mechanic now allows for the defender to transition to a proper tackle in those situations, based on the proximity and angle of the ball carrier, using various buttons, with the visual cone just being an on field indicator to help people understand why the tackle that triggered, did. So no more defenders diving flat on their face and chest without any awareness of the ball carrier, whatever attempted tackles should make sense for the given situation. Not to go on and on about this because we don't know how well it will work in-game but that's definitely promising for those times when the User gets switched to the wrong defender and could accidentally dive tackle a defender out the play, lol.
        Last edited by Big FN Deal; 07-18-2014, 11:12 PM.

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        • bad_philanthropy
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          • Jul 2005
          • 12167

          #169
          Re: Madden NFL 15 Developer Livestream Starts at 4:30 PM EST, Watch it Here

          Like other posters, I had low expectations, but in the end it was probably the most impressive, non-fluff, breakdown I've seen a sports game dev do—I don't know. Maybe ever? I haven't really followed the nitty gritty of Madden dev teams, and complaints since Ian, but I appreciate the concise way Rex expressed his vision for the series, and candor about the game's current shortcomings. I'll reserve judgment until I play it, but I'm definitely willing to support Rex's Madden with my wallet.

          Technically, the game seemed a lot fresher, animations wise, that I'd seen in previous footage. There was still some funky stuff, and bad lack of credible player momentum, but I was surprised how impressed I was. Pre-release footage for a football game hasn't done that for me for ages.

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          • DeuceDouglas
            Madden Dev Team
            • Apr 2010
            • 4297

            #170
            Re: Madden NFL 15 Developer Livestream Starts at 4:30 PM EST, Watch it Here

            Originally posted by jmurphy31
            I still think the replays are too quick and have poor angles. Show me how the play develop from a broadcast angle and then show another angle after of a tackle or pass break up.
            Yeah, they still look awkward. The one where the camera followed the ball on the deep pass looked really bad. The camera views on them don't look right either. Too many weird angles and field level views. Need more top of the stadium, nearly all-22 type shots like these:
            Spoiler

            Spoiler


            And then the lower level corner end-zone shot:

            Spoiler


            Those two angles alone make up the majority of replays. Throw in the other stuff here and there too for variety. Then for bigger games have the wire cam angle for replays as well.

            Spoiler


            Haven't really paid attention but I don't believe I've seen anything like this used at the goal line either. And it's a staple of anything inside the five as well as the goal post cam.

            Spoiler


            They really need to get the camera off the ball when showing replays too. Nothing ruins a replay or angle more than when the ball is stuck in the center the whole time. They had the same problem with the kickoff camera angle where it just looked weird.

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            • StefJoeHalt
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              • Feb 2014
              • 1058

              #171
              Re: Madden NFL 15 Developer Livestream Starts at 4:30 PM EST, Watch it Here

              Originally posted by jpdavis82
              I'm not here to say I told you so guys, I just want everyone to have a good game of football. They still have work to do and you heard them admit that more than once. I still think this is just the turning point, it will get better from here IMO


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              • friscob
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                • Jun 2013
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                #172
                Re: Madden NFL 15 Developer Livestream Starts at 4:30 PM EST, Watch it Here

                Halfway through the video and im definitely impressed. Visuals look great and gameplay is noticeably better. Its been awhile since ive enjoyed a madden game but this looks like it will be a big step in the right direction

                Really happy they took the time to correct some of the exploits that have been plaguing madden for yrs. Shows theyre listening, rex seems like a good dude
                Last edited by friscob; 07-18-2014, 11:18 PM.
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                • SECElit3
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                  • Jul 2009
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                  #173
                  Re: Madden NFL 15 Developer Livestream Starts at 4:30 PM EST, Watch it Here

                  did anyone else hear Rex when he talked about how they tuned the penalties? I wonder what he meant there.

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                  • LorenzoDC
                    MVP
                    • Sep 2010
                    • 1857

                    #174
                    Re: Madden NFL 15 Developer Livestream Starts at 4:30 PM EST, Watch it Here

                    Originally posted by Big FN Deal
                    lol, don't get me wrong, certain issues are still obviously present but like so many have stated before, you definitely get some tangible evidence that these guys are trying to make Madden, less Madden. When you watch the video, I think you'll get what I mean.
                    Adding to the chorus, I see it too. Rex, you guys are clearly working on details of game play that casuals haven't been aware of, but which make a big difference in the depth, quality and replayability of the title.

                    After the last recent years with the game, and especially after my buyer's remorse last year, I'm pretty impressed not only with what you have shown in this video, but with the way you are going about improving the game and communicating with people like us, the long time hard core crowd.

                    Like Big FN Deal, I feel like I want to reward that with a purchase, though I still want to hear about CFM. I'm getting close, and certainly closer than I was expecting.

                    Thanks for all your work, and for your straight up candor.

                    Odds and ends, I see defensive assignments that cover a game didn't make it in this year. I'm assuming that's also the case for formation subs, but I hope you have that on your radar as well.

                    As others have said, I'd also like to hear more about sliders, what they do this year, how they affect the game. If game balancing works as you guys have been talking about, then maybe they are less critical as a remedial necessity to try to compensate for bad gameplay.

                    Still, the ability to tweak and customize for gameplay styles, CFM leagues, etc., are all really important, and I hope you guys will give us the understanding we need of how the sliders work to make intelligent choices, and save us tons of experimental time.

                    Good job so far, on the substance and on the communications.

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                    • StefJoeHalt
                      MVP
                      • Feb 2014
                      • 1058

                      #175
                      Madden NFL 15 Developer Livestream Starts at 4:30 PM EST, Watch it Here

                      Originally posted by RexDEAFootball
                      >> I definitely plan on going out to buy M15 new, to support what these guys seem to be trying to do.



                      We REALLY appreciate it and this means a lot to us. The game needs to sell well for EA to continue to embrace our vision, so comments like these are a lot more valuable to us than you may realize.

                      ^ this right here sells me more then any of JP's sales pitch... Rex u back up 80 % of what JP is selling and half of what your selling u have a many new "old" customers..this day was a big step forward..but plz plz don't take this win as "the end of the war.. This is just one battle" but a very large victory..plz continue forward


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                      • friscob
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                        • Jun 2013
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                        #176
                        Re: Madden NFL 15 Developer Livestream Starts at 4:30 PM EST, Watch it Here

                        Originally posted by SECElit3
                        did anyone else hear Rex when he talked about how they tuned the penalties? I wonder what he meant there.
                        Probably messed with the frequency of penalties and touched up the things that can trigger them. Hope that the penalty sliders are not tied to the gameplay like they were in 25.
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                        • juduking
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                          • Apr 2010
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                          #177
                          Re: Madden NFL 15 Developer Livestream Starts at 4:30 PM EST, Watch it Here

                          Originally posted by StL_RamZ
                          for those who watched it

                          is this the video?

                          http://youtu.be/safhjnj8Occ
                          Wow, I am usually one to be a doom and gloom guy, but the comments on youtube make me seem like a saint. I doubt any of those negative comments actually watched the video.
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                          • Skyboxer
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                            • Jul 2002
                            • 20302

                            #178
                            Re: Madden NFL 15 Developer Livestream Starts at 4:30 PM EST, Watch it Here

                            Loved what I heard and even though I was already a day 1 buyer, this has me even more excited.

                            I still won't be over the top excited until a new passing system is added but thank God we have a group that feels like they want what we want finally.

                            My only concern from the broadcast (And maybe Rex can clarify)..

                            A group of us have been asking for D cam for ages and now we have it.. however.. If I heard correctly Rex said (when explaining D lock vs D camera) that you can be a D player and use the d-pad to switch players in an offline game..
                            Since he pointed out "offline game".. that makes it seem that either you can't switch players in the d cam in online games or that the D cam isn't available in online games..
                            or maybe either and I'm just freaking out for no reason..

                            I'm glad it's there at least but would like clarification.

                            Rex can you clarify? (and send me an early copy.. thanks in advance )

                            Can't really stress this enough that these guys (even though I was buying anyways) have upped my excitement , not just for this years game but for the future too, with a simple attitude of humbleness and football knowledge.

                            It really goes back a previous statement I said about certain developers giving us what they say we want instead of what we say we want.

                            Damn that's refreshing.
                            Last edited by Skyboxer; 07-18-2014, 11:39 PM.
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                            • friscob
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                              • Jun 2013
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                              #179
                              Re: Madden NFL 15 Developer Livestream Starts at 4:30 PM EST, Watch it Here

                              Originally posted by juduking
                              Wow, I am usually one to be a doom and gloom guy, but the comments on youtube make me seem like a saint. I doubt any of those negative comments actually watched the video.
                              For all the good that easily accessible internet access has done its also created a voice/platform for some of the most hateful and miserable ppl that walk this earth.
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                              • Jr.
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                                #180
                                Re: Madden NFL 15 Developer Livestream Starts at 4:30 PM EST, Watch it Here

                                Color me impressed. I would've liked to see them do more of these adjustments without telling each other what plays they were running, but it's good to know that if you make the right adjustment at the right time, you should be successful.

                                It's still Madden, but it looks like a much more polished version.
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