Madden NFL 15 Developer Livestream - Presentation and Graphics

[strawberryshortcake]

Re: Madden NFL 15 Developer Livestream - Presentation and Graphics

Forgive me if someone has already mentioned it earlier in the thread since I havent read the whole thing. But, looks like during a change in quarters they will be showing highlights from the previous quarter that just ended and in 25 it just changes to the next quarter with no highlights at all.

Also something I noticed and I think someone said the Jumbo Tron graphic doesnt change, but I noticed it go from just saying Jaguars all the time to Red Zone on the Gerhart attempt and then Touchdown. During the Gerhart TD I also noticed when the LB stopped him from scoring in the redzone he just gets up and walks back to the huddle. I am pretty sure if you stop the other team from scoring at anytime during the game not only will you get up and celebrate, other teammates are going to come and mob you, at least a couple should show up and do something.

Is this the goal line stoppage that you are referring to? If so, I agree -- there should be some type of defensive celebration. Secondly, there wasn't really any TD group celebration of any sort when the TD was finally scored.

@43:30 mark
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The jumbotrons are definitely dynamic, there's 22 different triggers. They said some of them like Heinz field are team specific, they will show the ketchup bottles pour in the red zone. There are all kinds of multi player celebrations going on in this video, some are very subtle, at one point two of the chiefs do a chest bump after a completion to Baldwin I believe.

I honestly like how you bring up good points that are supportive of team Madden, and continually find Madden 15 stuff on the internet. It's like a "yin and yang" relationship with those who have a more critical eye.

But it can be a tad annoying when you either deflect or don't address what the user brings up. You have like a politician's way of approaching things. User leathrneck34 mentions that there was no defensive celebration when Toby Gerhart was stopped at the 1 yard line. Instead of addressing it, you skirt around that particular sequence to reference a completely different sequence (Chief's two player chest bump). Yes, we know defensive and offensive celebrations are present. But the problem is context, and how frequently? Does the celebrations or lack thereof fit the context? When a celebration is suppose to happen, does it? Are the types of celebrations appropriate to the situation?


Lesean McCoy's magnificent touchdown run straight into a celebration was absolutely stellar sequence of events. This was something that completely jumped out at me as authentically replicated. The celebration context was great. Where was the defensive contextual celebration when Gerhart was stopped at the goaline? Where was the offensive contextual celebration when Gerhart finally scored the touchdown?

Side Note: But strange that the commentator (was it AJ?) said McCoy called over his Tight-end to come celebrate? Um ... I didn't see where McCoy "called" over his teammate for a celebration. More importantly in real life, teammates naturally go congratulate their teammates... you don't really "call" over teammates to celebrate.

@38:52 mark - Lesean McCoy's Touchdown and proper solo contextual celebration...
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[OhMrHanky]

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Lol that's not even the halftime show, it's a presentation feature

Good god. That looks fantastic!! It feels like you're really on the court. Player models look good. Real player voices commenting on the game. Wow. Amazing. Madden will NEVER reach this level. Lol.

[m-dogg]

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I agree with those that were saying the replays were too short and zoomed in. The starting and ending EA screen wipes added together take as much time as the actual replay. The first showing of a replay should always be from regular broadcast camera distance, then the second replay a closer look. it does not look good the way it is right now, especially the ones that lock onto the football -- the NFL does not currently employ robotic cameras that lock onto a chip in the football to keep it in the exact center of the screen at all times.

I miss the overhead view of the stadiums, the chrome fly in does nothing for me..once again, this is not something I am going to see on sundays watching the NFL (although I wouldnt put it past fox, please EA stop giving them ideas). I loved the overhead stadium shots in last gen, and was excited to see them with the new detail of next gen..never got tired of them oh well. its all about the close ups in next gen I guess. I skipped madded 25, were they still in then?

The coach reactions are also too redundant. If you are going to cut to the coach after every poor play, then you better have a pool of 100 reactions to randomly pull from -- not show the same look-up-to-the-sky-in-disgust animation over and over. I love the no more cut scenes mantra, but they need way more reactions to really make it look good and keep it fresh and not ruin the immersion. too many players performing the exact same post play reactions at the exact same time. In fact in the one replay they were looking at, there was another Steeler right behind him doing the exact same animation perfectly in tandem. looks comical. again, more variety for immersion sake.

I do like a lot of stuff though, especially the corners and WR's going up to play the ball. Defensive cameras are a godsend, I hope I don't have to set it every play and it stays on whatever you chose last play? saw some 2-3 man tackles which always make me happy (need waaaay more of these please!).

[jpdavis82]

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Is this the goal line stoppage that you are referring to? If so, I agree -- there should be some type of defensive celebration. Secondly, there wasn't really any TD group celebration of any sort when the TD was finally scored.

@43:30 mark
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I honestly like how you bring up good points that are supportive of team Madden, and continually find Madden 15 stuff on the internet. It's like a "yin and yang" relationship with those who have a more critical eye.

But it can be a tad annoying when you either deflect or don't address what the user brings up. You have like a politician's way of approaching things. User leathrneck34 mentions that there was no defensive celebration when Toby Gerhart was stopped at the 1 yard line. Instead of addressing it, you skirt around that particular sequence to reference a completely different sequence (Chief's two player chest bump). Yes, we know defensive and offensive celebrations are present. But the problem is context, and how frequently? Does the celebrations or lack thereof fit the context? When a celebration is suppose to happen, does it? Are the types of celebrations appropriate to the situation?


Lesean McCoy's magnificent touchdown run straight into a celebration was absolutely stellar sequence of events. This was something that completely jumped out at me as authentically replicated. The celebration context was great. Where was the defensive contextual celebration when Gerhart was stopped at the goaline? Where was the offensive contextual celebration when Gerhart finally scored the touchdown?

Side Note: But strange that the commentator (was it AJ?) said McCoy called over his Tight-end to come celebrate? Um ... I didn't see where McCoy "called" over his teammate for a celebration. More importantly in real life, teammates naturally go congratulate their teammates... you don't really "call" over teammates to celebrate.

@38:52 mark - Lesean McCoy's Touchdown and proper solo contextual celebration...
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I'm working so I don't have time to respond in detail. To answer your question about Gerhart, aj said different players have different celebration styles and that was supposed to be more reserved, ala Barry Sanders.

[Darth Aegis]

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This is just the beginning, Brian said he ultimately wants to see the nfl start to copy off of Madden's presentation. Obviously we are nowhere near that now, but it gives you an idea of his vision for presentation.

I almost just fell off my desk chair. I needed a good laugh on a Friday.
Thanks for that! Lol

[jpdavis82]

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I almost just fell off my desk chair. I needed a good laugh on a Friday.
Thanks for that! Lol

He said it, we'll see what happens from here.

[playajay98]

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Really, really tiny gripe..I saw defensive players pointing to their nameplate post play when they were NOT the one to make the play. That's awkward. Other than that, I'm encouraged by what I've seen.

[Darth Aegis]

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He said it, we'll see what happens from here.

I know lol. I just think as long as they can replicate it everyone will be happy.No need to create something new here. Sometimes I think ea over thinks things, keep it authentic and remember the little details that make it feel like a authentic presentation broadcast so special Thats all we need dont need tons of fluff.

[SECElit3]

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This is just the beginning, Brian said he ultimately wants to see the nfl start to copy off of Madden's presentation. Obviously we are nowhere near that now, but it gives you an idea of his vision for presentation.

I don't know whether to laugh, gag, or feel sorry for him.

[GiantBlue76]

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I don't know whether to laugh, gag, or feel sorry for him.

lol - apparently he has the same line of thinking that the other presentation folks at Tiburon had.

[kehlis]

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If you want your experience to be THAT real, then go to the games or watch the TV, THIS IS A VIDEO GAME PEOPLE!!!!!

This is such a tired rhetoric and needs to go away.

I know your attempting to get smart with others for whatever reason but you fail to see there is zero logic in saying this.

First, I'm willing to bet everyone here does watch the games when they are on and do go to games in person.

I for one play Madden when football isn't on. Now answer me this a quiet pro, how can I go watch a game at 8pm on a Wednesday night rather than play Madden?

[kjcheezhead]

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That video wasn't impressive at all. The only one I've liked was the first stream with the developers. The rest don't show the touted improvements. Inaccuracies are rare, the defense doesn't appear greatly improved. The stiff animations and sliding is very evident.

It's an improvement, but not that drastic. I see myself getting 4 weeks into a franchise tops before the game just feels stale and boring again. Too many legacy issues still.

[A_Quiet_Pro]

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This is such a tired rhetoric and needs to go away.

I know your attempting to get smart with others for whatever reason but you fail to see there is zero logic in saying this.

First, I'm willing to bet everyone here does watch the games when they are on and do go to games in person.

I for one play Madden when football isn't on. Now answer me this a quiet pro, how can I go watch a game at 8pm on a Wednesday night rather than play Madden?

I dont mean this in a literal sense man. My point I try to make is, yes, the game needs to be and feel Authentic, BUT people ask for too much and are too nitpicky. It's one thing to want authenticity, it's another to ask for things as small as some people ask for. Main Point.. It's a game, why can't people just enjoy it for what it is... a game?

[vision]

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I dont mean this in a literal sense man. My point I try to make is, yes, the game needs to be and feel Authentic, BUT people ask for too much and are too nitpicky. It's one thing to want authenticity, it's another to ask for things as small as some people ask for. Main Point.. It's a game, why can't people just enjoy it for what it is... a game?

Dude.. you're in an operation sports, hardcore madden football thread.. We know it's a game. We know this. Some folks just want more authenticity to enhance the experience. Not too much to ask.

MLB the show is just a game. But they get the little things right that separate the gamplay experience from the rest. It's arguably the best sports game on the market. If you are satisfied with maddens presentation that's great, but certain people have different standards. It's ok .

[A_Quiet_Pro]

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Dude.. you're in an operation sports, hardcore madden football thread.. We know it's a game. We know this. Some folks just want more authenticity to enhance the experience. Not too much to ask.

MLB the show is just a game. But they get the little things right that separate the gamplay experience from the rest. It's arguably the best sports game on the market. If you are satisfied with maddens presentation that's great, but certain people have different standards. It's ok .

Yeah, maybe it's just because I have no problems with the game other than a few gameplay issues, so things dont bother me too much. THAT being said, maybe I think the tiny minutia is ridiculous because they should make sure they have solid gameplay down first, which as everyone knows they dont. idk. That's why The Show is so good at authenticity. Their gameplay is so rock solid, they can do the little things. Madden has A LONG WAY to go before their gameplay is rock solid. They shouldn't be focusing on the little things.

How's this, a list of things Madden needs to completely overhaul.

Presentation
gameplay
RATINGS!!!!!!!