Per the bolded, while you are correct, what then would be the case is the game is radically inconsistent in its ratings. Yes field speed and 40 speed are different, but then when does one determine when a person's rating should move from 40 to field speed? What's the variable that determines that? Seems to be very subjective no?
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Per the bolded, while you are correct, what then would be the case is the game is radically inconsistent in its ratings. Yes field speed and 40 speed are different, but then when does one determine when a person's rating should move from 40 to field speed? What's the variable that determines that? Seems to be very subjective no? -
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Ravens fan so I got a few things to say.
Joe Flacco -- Gasp, this is actually a good rating. To my fellow Ravens fan who thinks Joe deserves better than that 63 deep accuracy, Joe was dreadful on his downfield passes last season (last among QBs if I recall). Now we can argue that part of the reason was how often he threw deep (loses the surprise factor) but either way he was terrible.
Jimmy Smith -- Rubbish rating. Jimmy and Webby should both be an 88.
Rest of the team -- Most of our top guys, with the exception of Tucker, are overrated. But then again the league as a whole is overrated so it balances out. But personally I don't think a single player aside from the goofy kicker is deserving of a 90+ rating.
I will be editing quite a bit this year.Comment
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Ravens fan so I got a few things to say.
Joe Flacco -- Gasp, this is actually a good rating. To my fellow Ravens fan who thinks Joe deserves better than that 63 deep accuracy, Joe was dreadful on his downfield passes last season (last among QBs if I recall). Now we can argue that part of the reason was how often he threw deep (loses the surprise factor) but either way he was terrible.
Jimmy Smith -- Rubbish rating. Jimmy and Webby should both be an 88.
Rest of the team -- Most of our top guys, with the exception of Tucker, are overrated. But then again the league as a whole is overrated so it balances out. But personally I don't think a single player aside from the goofy kicker is deserving of a 90+ rating.
I will be editing quite a bit this year.OS Red Zone
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Toughness is supposedly how quick someone rebounds from injury. Cutler has always appeared to be a whiny sulker, so they prob don't think he rebounds well. Lol.Comment
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Per the bolded, while you are correct, what then would be the case is the game is radically inconsistent in its ratings. Yes field speed and 40 speed are different, but then when does one determine when a person's rating should move from 40 to field speed? What's the variable that determines that? Seems to be very subjective no?Dan B.
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Players might not get faster, but they definitely can get slower. That part isn't a myth. That's what "game speed" really meansOS Red Zone
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Only speed is speed. For every reason you can think that a player's speed would be affected, I can think of 10 times more reasons why it wasn't, but other attributes made it seem as though it was...simply because there are far more variables to creating a player profile than just speed.Dan B.
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"Game Speed" is a myth. Nobody is actually faster on the playing field vs. running in their 40 trials. What you call "game speed" is actually reaction, anticipation, and technique being utilized to increase/decrease separation between players. How else could Jerry Rice get open at 40 and Ray Lewis tackle a sub 4.5 RB at 35? Players don't get faster - they get smarter and more technically sound to keep them in the game.
I also dont think the notion of game speed has ever suggested that a player in full pads on game day would be faster than his ideal 40 time. Rather, it is suggesting how close a player is to the ceiling he had set for himself on a track.Comment
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The notion that speed is what is causing a player to move faster though, is a myth. There is a great topic buried in the annals of OS about this. I believe it is the "Speed is Speed" thread. Speed in Madden refers to the top maximal velocity of a player achieved during a run. Vision is not speed. Reaction is not speed. Agility is not speed. Route-running is not speed. Acceleration is not speed. Awareness is not speed. Play recognition is not speed.
Only speed is speed. For every reason you can think that a player's speed would be affected, I can think of 10 times more reasons why it wasn't, but other attributes made it seem as though it was...simply because there are far more variables to creating a player profile than just speed.OS Red Zone
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Originally posted by TheSaints7Dalton is rated too high, he is average at best.
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"Game Speed" is a myth. Nobody is actually faster on the playing field vs. running in their 40 trials. What you call "game speed" is actually reaction, anticipation, and technique being utilized to increase/decrease separation between players. How else could Jerry Rice get open at 40 and Ray Lewis tackle a sub 4.5 RB at 35? Players don't get faster - they get smarter and more technically sound to keep them in the game.Comment
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I get that. I'm just responding to the previous poster who's basing Sherman's rating strictly on game speed. This was brought up because I posted Sherman's 40 time vs Jimmy Smith and Matt Elam's, both who have faster 40 times than Sherman yet Sherman is much faster than them in Madden. But the reason why Madden has Sherman like that is because they don't have those intangibles as a big part of the game and my conclusion is the entire system is flawed so I see why they do what they do even though I don't like it.Comment
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I get that. I'm just responding to the previous poster who's basing Sherman's rating strictly on game speed. This was brought up because I posted Sherman's 40 time vs Jimmy Smith and Matt Elam's, both who have faster 40 times than Sherman yet Sherman is much faster than them in Madden. But the reason why Madden has Sherman like that is because they don't have those intangibles as a big part of the game and my conclusion is the entire system is flawed so I see why they do what they do even though I don't like it.
I totally agree with you in terms of the intangibles that Sherman may possess over other players.
I feel like there needs to be a couple different speed/acceleration ratings in order to really show the speed of players. The only time a player will ever run anything like a 40 yard dash will be when running the Verts or defending the Vert route in man coverage.
That said, even when defending the Vert route the DB should be at a slight 'speed' disadvantage because they have to play off of the actions of the WR/QB. When this is the issue, I think 'closing the gap' is something that other DBs do better than others - DeAngelo Hall, Deion Sanders and others have been great at this over the years.
Other players like Sherman seem to require the physicality of their defense in order to keep the WR where they want them more than their straight line speed (IE - press/physical strength). I don't watch a lot of Sherman, maybe he is the fastest player in the league and I don't give him enough credit - but that is my view on what DB speed should be.Comment
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