Madden NFL 15 Video - Simulated Season Stats

[Sheba2011]

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The sim stats sucks, yeah. But I doubt that's what is causing such regression on QB's and moreso the CPU not being able to recover from this in Game Prep accordingly.



It's a much bigger hit than anyone else. By far.

Horrible sim stats aside. What that screen shows me is that what happens in the game is what matters most, which is the way it should be. He got +4 confidence back from gameplan but he continues to have horrible games with multiple int's which would take a huge toll on any QB's confidence. On that same token one or two good games in a row should be enough to restore some of that confidence whereas if he continues to struggle he will end up regressing. Look at Eli Manning he started the year off with games of 4 and 3 int's and he really never recovered it just kept getting worse from there. Wasn't until week 10 that he had somewhat of a positive game but by the his confidence was completely shot and the rest of the year was a disaster.

[extremeskins04]

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So we could control all 32 teams and make sure we give confidence to QB every week. Very tedious, but would it get the job done?

That most likely would help but that's a real pain to do, and very time consuming. You'd have to adjust it every single week for every team.

Confidence is the main culprit of EVERYTHING wrong with the sim stat engine and progression/regression. It's so broken right now that I don't even know if a patch can actually fix it. They would have to seriously cut down on how much confidence causes issues with QB's.

If a QB has one or two games where he throws 3+ int's, he's basically done for the year and there's no coming back because his confidence will never recover thereby making his stats worse, which in TURN causes QB's to regress horribly; like Andrew Luck, Matt Stafford and Cam Newton to go from a high 80's/low 90's rating to a low 70's rating in just 2-3 years.

What's worse is rookie QB's never progress.

Unacceptable in every way imaginable.

[PacMan3000]

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I'm surprised people are so up in arms about this issue--this is nothing new. In M25, I can't quite remember if stats were off, but I definitely remember my offline CFM had, after five seasons, Andrew Luck on the Jags and Russell Wilson (who won two Super Bowls in Seattle), on the Chargers. Kaep was a Falcon.

I find this stuff to be far worse than stats. With that said, I can't think of any franchise mode (Madden or 2K) I ever played that had 31 other independent teams run by the CPU behave as they should. Same goes with progression and regression. We used to complain that players never, ever regressed. Now it's too much.

I'm not saying it's acceptable--it's not. It's actually ridiculous. I'm just saying, when has franchise mode stats and CPU logic ever been great or relatively spot on? There's always something wonky going on.

[lunchbox2042]

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I'm surprised people are so up in arms about this issue--this is nothing new. In M25, I can't quite remember if stats were off, but I definitely remember my offline CFM had, after five seasons, Andrew Luck on the Jags and Russell Wilson (who won two Super Bowls in Seattle), on the Chargers. Kaep was a Falcon.

I find this stuff to be far worse than stats. With that said, I can't think of any franchise mode (Madden or 2K) I ever played that had 31 other independent teams run by the CPU behave as they should. Same goes with progression and regression. We used to complain that players never, ever regressed. Now it's too much.

I'm not saying it's acceptable--it's not. It's actually ridiculous. I'm just saying, when has franchise mode stats and CPU logic ever been great or relatively spot on? There's always something wonky going on.

You're surprised people are upset that a major feature doesn't work properly? Why should I give EA my $60 to get a broken game mode that I enjoy the most out of the series?

[PacMan3000]

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It's your money, do what you please. But simulated stats have never been spot on. And good QBs getting cut and winding up in free agency happened in the last CFM of Madden 25. And there's always been issues with progression/regression. For years, it was the fact that older running backs never lost a step.

Again, I don't know how this ruins CFM because that suggests these issues were fine before Madden 15. They weren't.

This does need to be patched, but if you played and enjoyed M25, or 13, or 12, this really isn't much different than what you had before.

[SirFunkyBacon]

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I don't understand people complaining about players going to other teams. That stuff happens in real life too. People are shocked to see Philip Rivers or Andrew Luck starting on another team in the game, when Peyton Manning switched teams in real life. Crazier things have happened.

The stats on the other hand have NEVER been this bad. When it's a "passing league" and the Quarterbacks struggle to put even 20 touchdowns up. It's nuts.. The regression is also insane. I can get over players switching teams, but not players regressing so much that they are buried on depth charts. I saw one situation in this thread where Rivers and Roethlisberger were both third string QB's. Bananas.

[sword1986]

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The more I read, the more disheartening it becomes. I haven't purchased a Madden since the Peyton Hillis cover and before that Madden 09. I'm giving this game a chance, and I am hoping they fix the CFM issues.

If not, there is always October 7th basketball season!

[IdontwannasayYA]

Dan Marino (the closest QB to Manning) had a season where he threw 16 TD's once and passed for just under 3800 yards, there was no reason for that but it happened, before then he had never thrown for less than 20 when playing a full season. Manny Sanders has exactly one season with more than 2 TD's, Latimer has never played in the NFL. Neither of them at this point are actual replacements for a guy who had 1288 yards and 11 TD's (Sanders total for his entire career). Welker tore his ACL it happened at the end of the season so he didn't miss any games but it still happened, he also battled concussions last year.

I'm starting to think you have no idea what you are talking about. 4000 yards to lead the league in passing for Manning? It looks as if 24 TD passes leads the league. Those are ridiculously low simmed numbers and there is a 0.1% chance of that happening this year. Comparing Marino's stats to the current NFL is equally ridiculous.

[Radiant1]

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Anyone else remember for like Madden 12 or 13, the developers said they were going to overhaul the sim engine for next gen, saying it would be too difficult to fix it (then) because they'd have to build a new engine from the ground up rather than port it over every year like they have been?..... Well, it's next gen now and they're still porting. They know this stuff is broken but until they get competition, they'll continue to tell us whatever they want and aren't held accountable.


EA is not getting another dime from me. These guys are crooks and liars

[Skuxx24]

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Sigh.....

They really need to sort there sh*t and get this fixed since sim stats play a huge role on progression and regression in CFM. What's the bet the Passing gets fixed then rushing gets screwed up or receiving yards get screwed up or one of the favourites all MLBs get 200 plus tackles and anyone else on defense can't get more than 80.

This sim engine has been broken for years they need to overhaul it and bring a new system in. Ridiculous this is still an issue after so many cycles of madden

[DeuceDouglas]

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The sim stats sucks, yeah. But I doubt that's what is causing such regression on QB's and moreso the CPU not being able to recover from this in Game Prep accordingly.



It's a much bigger hit than anyone else. By far.

The first thing I notice there is a glitch in the confidence system itself. Stafford gets -3 for throwing two picks and then -10 on top of that for throwing three picks which is kind of redundant. Minus three obviously isn't that great of a difference but if that happens for things like sacks and picks consistently over the course of a season it could be the reason why things could start to go bad. There's also nothing to counterbalance anything outside of the game prep as well although it might be there and he just didn't throw any touchdowns that week.

[JoshC1977]

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Is there a way to alter coach settings? Where they run the ball less? Because you've got Rushing yards too high, passing too low... Just makes sense if you can do that.

Unless it has changed from last year, the only way (theoretically) to do this would be to do a 32-team dynasty and create the coaches from scratch (which would set their XP to 0). I really wish that we could edit the coach profiles from the main page and have it tied into the roster being used (a la NCAA). Run/Pass ratio (offensive and defensive) plus the aggression makes a HUGE difference in how the sim engine works (and can be used to enhance played games). But until we can actually edit the coaches, it is going to be a laborious chore to use this.

[Sheba2011]

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The first thing I notice there is a glitch in the confidence system itself. Stafford gets -3 for throwing two picks and then -10 on top of that for throwing three picks which is kind of redundant. Minus three obviously isn't that great of a difference but if that happens for things like sacks and picks consistently over the course of a season it could be the reason why things could start to go bad. There's also nothing to counterbalance anything outside of the game prep as well although it might be there and he just didn't throw any touchdowns that week.

It's not redundant at all he continues to have bad games, the longer you are on a bad streak the more it hurts your confidence. If he threw 3 TD's and 0 INT's and his team won that would be the counterbalance. If he starts to have multiple good games in a row his confidence will be +3 and +10 and so on.

[SickDL]

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The main issue I see in that picture is that its week 1. So Stafford got hit for trowing 2 picks and then again for 3 picks, so basicly the game calculates it as 5 picks.

[DeuceDouglas]

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It's not redundant at all he continues to have bad games, the longer you are on a bad streak the more it hurts your confidence. If he threw 3 TD's and 0 INT's and his team won that would be the counterbalance. If he starts to have multiple good games in a row his confidence will be +3 and +10 and so on.

What I mean is he is getting penalized twice for the same things which is interceptions. He shouldn't get penalized for throwing two interceptions and then get penalized again for throwing one more interception in the same game and have those penalties in confidence combine together when they're both penalizing for the same thing. It would be like getting penalized for giving up 10 points, then 20 points, then 30 points, then 40 points all in one game and having them all combine together when it should just be one penalty based on the end result.