Some Madden NFL 16 Features Revealed, Pre-Order & Deluxe Edition Details

[aholbert32]

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I think currently a huge problem, with CFM more than anything else, is where the things implemented fall on those lists. It's great if they can get smaller and smaller but if you just continue to pluck things from the bottom you get a lot of inconsequential improvements. And I'm talking almost strictly CFM here just because there seems to be absolutely no interaction or communication in regards to anything CFM-wise.

We couldn't even look at free agent attributes but we got to hear about how much time was put into "creating" the relocation uniforms. Gameplay seems to be headed in the right direction but there is still a gigantic disconnect when it comes to CFM.

I may lose it if they add soft features like "creating uniforms" and ignore needed things like formation subs, cpu playbook assignment and full editing.

I cant remember does Madden 15 have defensive assignments. For example, can I put Revis on a particular receiver no matter what play is called.

[howboutdat]

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I think currently a huge problem, with CFM more than anything else, is where the things implemented fall on those lists. It's great if they can get smaller and smaller but if you just continue to pluck things from the bottom you get a lot of inconsequential improvements. And I'm talking almost strictly CFM here just because there seems to be absolutely no interaction or communication in regards to anything CFM-wise.

We couldn't even look at free agent attributes but we got to hear about how much time was put into "creating" the relocation uniforms. Gameplay seems to be headed in the right direction but there is still a gigantic disconnect when it comes to CFM.

Yes, Mr Looman kinda cracked me up .Talking about how long he worked on those relocation team unis .Seems like all that time should have been spent on testing those new things they added ( new regression and confidence systems that were Horrible!! ) .Then good luck gettting that guy to respond to you on twitter.Heck i was nice and just asked( mind you i was asking if i could , didnt just go and do this) if i could PM him and got blocked..... For asking if i could PM him. smh .Thats one thing about Clint , is he will take the time to answer you as best as he is allowed at least. Id like to hear how it was more important to worry about those relocation unis over making sure the actual things they put in that effects a CFM , worked properly and realistically.... , Dont get me wrong i liked the random draft classes, sure they are not perfect , but they are pretty decent at least and they ended those draft guide cheat sheets and now people have to scout. So ill give props on that, but such a huge ball got dropped in so many other areas of CFM,those things ended up over riding the draft classes by far .

[howboutdat]

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I cant remember does Madden 15 have defensive assignments. For example, can I put Revis on a particular receiver no matter what play is called.

No it doesnt, and for the life of me i dont know why . Yet another killer failure. Also i agree, id love to see me be able to set auto subs and it work correctly, as well as formation subs . Personally id like to see special teams be added to depth chart , let me select who is out there on kickoffs at least.

[bringbacksimfootball]

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Some of these guys have been GCers for what five years or so? How many years can you have someone tell you "maybe next year" before you call them on it?

Yes. This is exactly the issue.

It's become nothing more than a group of grown men waiting on Santa Claus and playing nice all year to get the present of a free trip to Orlando.

The GC/CD program had its biggest impact on this game during the Madden 10 dev cycle, and after that it's been nothing but mere vanity and free publicity for Madden. And it's not because of the GCers/CDers themselves, but because internally developers on that staff honestly don't feel GCers/CDers add any real value to what they're doing (and I was told this in person many times by various staffers, but there was one or two public blowups online from staffers to that very effect as well). GCers/CDers are seen more like a necessary annoyance used to inject hype into the skeptical subgroup of the Madden fanbase (i.e the "sim community".

It also helps them a lot that pretty much none of the people they bring down understand game development, how a game is actually made, or a number of critical intricacies about the game of pro football, so it's easier to tell those guys B.S. and not have to deal with being questioned on it because they wouldn't know what to question in the first place. Some of the people who used to go that had this knowledge did question Tiburon staff and, surprise surprise, those guys didn't last in that program for very long; some left on their own when they realized it was bull, and others were simply blacklisted asap.

[bringbacksimfootball]

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No it doesnt, and for the life of me i dont know why . Yet another killer failure. Also i agree, id love to see me be able to set auto subs and it work correctly, as well as formation subs . Personally id like to see special teams be added to depth chart , let me select who is out there on kickoffs at least.

And the irony is, they have a "matchup stick" function, and yet you can't have any simple and deliberate control of your actual matchups in the way you're describing.

Gotta love it.

[jpdavis82]

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Yes. This is exactly the issue.

It's become nothing more than a group of grown men waiting on Santa Claus and playing nice all year to get the present of a free trip to Orlando.

The GC/CD program had its biggest impact on this game during the Madden 10 dev cycle, and after that it's been nothing but mere vanity and free publicity for Madden. And it's not because of the GCers/CDers themselves, but because internally developers on that staff honestly don't feel GCers/CDers add any real value to what they're doing (and I was told this in person many times by various staffers, but there was one or two public blowups online from staffers to that very effect as well). GCers/CDers are seen more like a necessary annoyance used to inject hype into the skeptical subgroup of the Madden fanbase (i.e the "sim community".

It also helps them a lot that pretty much none of the people they bring down understand game development, how a game is actually made, or a number of critical intricacies about the game of pro football, so it's easier to tell those guys B.S. and not have to deal with being questioned on it because they wouldn't know what to question in the first place. Some of the people who used to go that had this knowledge did question Tiburon staff and, surprise surprise, those guys didn't last in that program for very long; some left on their own when they realized it was bull, and others were simply blacklisted asap.

Lol! No, no, no, that is FAR from the truth, at least from my experience so far.

[bringbacksimfootball]

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Lol! No, no, no, that is FAR from the truth, at least from my experience so far.

Well, that's your experience. Mine was different.

And I have a hard time believing much of anything has changed since the game still carries most of the exact same problems from that time. If these events are making a big difference, where is the evidence? It's surely not "In The Game".

[Big FN Deal]

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No it doesnt, and for the life of me i dont know why . Yet another killer failure. Also i agree, id love to see me be able to set auto subs and it work correctly, as well as formation subs . Personally id like to see special teams be added to depth chart , let me select who is out there on kickoffs at least.

It was Ian, I think, that told us why, because it didn't work properly due to some other underlining code issue, which they hadn't figured out. If I find it, I'll link it.

EDIT: http://www.operationsports.com/forum...4&postcount=43
Also found this little bit, buried in a huge Q&A: whats the earliest time do you think we will see defensive assignments on next gen?
- Madden 2010. http://www.operationsports.com/forum...-cummings.html

[IndyColts2]

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You really think Clint would let us do PI without getting holding in the game? Come on man.

So its going to be similar to the FIFA jersey pull system

[howboutdat]

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It was Ian, I think, that told us why, because it didn't work properly due to some other underlining code issue, which they hadn't figured out. If I find it, I'll link it.

But i know its in NBA 2K.. U can pick who defends who. So we know its possible to do it... just Ea dont do it , it would seem.

[aholbert32]

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No it doesnt, and for the life of me i dont know why . Yet another killer failure. Also i agree, id love to see me be able to set auto subs and it work correctly, as well as formation subs . Personally id like to see special teams be added to depth chart , let me select who is out there on kickoffs at least.

Out of game formation subs would fix this too.

[Hooe]

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If I recall correctly, individual defensive assignments did exist at one point on the 360 / PS3 console generation Madden games but was later pulled for reasons unexplained.

My memory is admittedly foggy on this one.

[aholbert32]

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It was Ian, I think, that told us why, because it didn't work properly due to some other underlining code issue, which they hadn't figured out. If I find it, I'll link it.

EDIT: http://www.operationsports.com/forum...4&postcount=43

Wasnt it back in Madden 11 though? Also he refrenences UI and Screen deficiencies as the reason and not code. So maybe this is something that can be added since the UI has changed several times since Madden 09?

[Marino]

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I will get the deluxe edition just for the extra MUT packs. That's all I really play now in Madden.

[SolidSquid]

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I will get the deluxe edition just for the extra MUT packs. That's all I really play now in Madden.

Lucky, I can't really get into this mode bc I hate playing cheesers online and guys who can just buy the best team. It's unfortunate bc it seems like a fun mode and is obviously the future of madden.