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  • drugsbunny
    Rookie
    • Apr 2015
    • 320

    #226
    I can not wait to see what BS they force feed us this year as they make their attempts to convince us that they are being innovative and not just copying and pasting the same codes from year to year. Did anyone else realize that EA lost a lawsuit that requires them to pay royalties to a programmer who wrote a code back in 1989 that research showed is still in existence as of today in Madden. To me that's just sad..
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    • Hooe
      Hall Of Fame
      • Aug 2002
      • 21554

      #227
      Re: Some Madden NFL 16 Features Revealed, Pre-Order & Deluxe Edition Details

      Originally posted by drugsbunny
      Did anyone else realize that EA lost a lawsuit that requires them to pay royalties to a programmer who wrote a code back in 1989 that research showed is still in existence as of today in Madden. To me that's just sad..
      That 2013 judgement of $11 million you are referring to involving Robin Antonick (a programmer on one of the original John Madden Football games) and EA Sports was entirely overturned and reversed in a California district court in 2014.

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      • vrtkolman
        Rookie
        • Nov 2004
        • 308

        #228
        Re: Some Madden NFL 16 Features Revealed, Pre-Order & Deluxe Edition Details

        Originally posted by drugsbunny
        I can not wait to see what BS they force feed us this year as they make their attempts to convince us that they are being innovative and not just copying and pasting the same codes from year to year. Did anyone else realize that EA lost a lawsuit that requires them to pay royalties to a programmer who wrote a code back in 1989 that research showed is still in existence as of today in Madden. To me that's just sad..
        Yeah that is not surprising. It also shows how difficult it is for developers to work on something like this. When software isn't re-written after 25+ years, the code base is going to be horrific to manage. It's probably impossible to do anything but minor enhancements/bug fixes without breaking the game in unknown ways. It also makes sense why penalty sliders affect gameplay so much.

        Also on this subject, I can't imagine "top-tier" developers want anything to do with this game. It can't be fun at all to work on this. A re-write is desperately needed.

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        • JetLife6
          Banned
          • Jul 2014
          • 62

          #229
          Re: Some Madden NFL 16 Features Revealed, Pre-Order & Deluxe Edition Details

          Originally posted by vrtkolman
          Yeah that is not surprising. It also shows how difficult it is for developers to work on something like this. When software isn't re-written after 25+ years, the code base is going to be horrific to manage. It's probably impossible to do anything but minor enhancements/bug fixes without breaking the game in unknown ways. It also makes sense why penalty sliders affect gameplay so much.

          Also on this subject, I can't imagine "top-tier" developers want anything to do with this game. It can't be fun at all to work on this. A re-write is desperately needed.
          I've always thought this as well. Maybe they hire all these new game play designers to be a facade for the public. Clint can have 1000 amazing ideas.. but if the guy writing code isn't crafty... it won't turn out well.

          Game development is an art.. and I am just not a fan of EA's art. Doesn't mean that it isn't STILL art... just not my style.

          Also... it almost feels like madden is a giant layered mess that is unable to be tweaked without serious consequences.

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          • RexDEAFootball
            Creative Director Madden
            • Jun 2013
            • 74

            #230
            Originally posted by howboutdat
            I just dont get how they can look themselves in the mirror year after year, playing pet and repeat trying to claim something is new. This was also a supposed feature of madden 13, never worked quite right but , here is to hoping this year it works right.
            Let me clarify this for you guys. We have added new functionality to total control passing this year. We are building additional layers onto what was already there.

            The new passing mechanics this year are the ability to throw low and high passes (relative to the receivers body) we also added touch passes which have a higher arc and a sharper drop. It is used for putting balls over the heads of underneath zone defenders and in front of deep zone defenders.

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            • RexDEAFootball
              Creative Director Madden
              • Jun 2013
              • 74

              #231
              Originally posted by aholbert32
              I'm going to assume no. Here is my theory:

              The Madden team doesnt like penalties. Clint said as much last year on Twitter. Thats why the game is pretty much devoid of them with the exception of offsides/false start even with the sliders maxed out.

              The problem is they have this new WR/DB dynamic and the DB's have a choice now to go for play ball or hit receiver coverage. Now we all know that if PI stayed the same as last year, people will cheese the hell out of hit receiver and the game would pretty much become NFL Blitz. So they need PI penalties to combat the cheese.

              If the Madden team wanted realistic penalties, we wouldve seen new holding and clipping animations last year when the focus was on OL/DL line play. Its a shame that the penalty that occurs the most in real football (holding) rarely appears in Madden 15.
              You really think Clint would let us do PI without getting holding in the game? Come on man.

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              • therealsmallville
                Pro
                • May 2011
                • 937

                #232
                Some Madden NFL 16 Features Revealed, Pre-Order & Deluxe Edition Details

                Defensive holding? Is that the holding you're referring to?

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                • RexDEAFootball
                  Creative Director Madden
                  • Jun 2013
                  • 74

                  #233
                  Originally posted by tyberious4now
                  I think we need to stop going round and round on the Madden merry go round each year....

                  It would be great if the Dev's could interact with some of the Maddenites on here and help to build a true gaming football sim..We take a census on what we like and some OS'ers on here can relay our wants....

                  It would be a win win for both....
                  We agree! Can't wait to see your list of wants!

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                  • Skyboxer
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                    • Jul 2002
                    • 20302

                    #234
                    Re: Some Madden NFL 16 Features Revealed, Pre-Order & Deluxe Edition Details

                    I really hope some work was done to special teams (Better ball physics etc..)
                    The "auto block everyone" also needs to go.
                    There's really no excitement at all with special teams.

                    With that said... I can say I'm looking forward to seeing more about Madden 16.
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                    • capa
                      Banned
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 5321

                      #235
                      Re: Some Madden NFL 16 Features Revealed, Pre-Order & Deluxe Edition Details

                      Originally posted by RexDEAFootball
                      We agree! Can't wait to see your list of wants!
                      I hope that was not said in jest...there is an entire wish list already on this board. Probably about 65 pages long.

                      http://www.operationsports.com/forum...-wishlist.html

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                      • Potatoes002
                        MVP
                        • Jul 2008
                        • 2142

                        #236
                        Re: Some Madden NFL 16 Features Revealed, Pre-Order & Deluxe Edition Details

                        I'm excited for the possibility of pass interference now, but man the slider for it NEEDS to work, they all do. Hopefully this is finally addressed in Madden 16.

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                        • RexDEAFootball
                          Creative Director Madden
                          • Jun 2013
                          • 74

                          #237
                          Originally posted by therealsmallville
                          Defensive holding? Is that the holding you're referring to?

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                          Offensive Holding is in as well for both run and pass blocking.

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                          • randymoss07
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                            • Jul 2014
                            • 7

                            #238
                            Re: Some Madden NFL 16 Features Revealed, Pre-Order & Deluxe Edition Details

                            Originally posted by RexDEAFootball
                            Offensive Holding is in as well for both run and pass blocking.
                            I'm psyched man!
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                            • tyberious4now
                              Tiger Paw
                              • Nov 2004
                              • 753

                              #239
                              Re: Some Madden NFL 16 Features Revealed, Pre-Order & Deluxe Edition Details

                              Originally posted by RexDEAFootball
                              We agree! Can't wait to see your list of wants!
                              Hey Rex! Thanks for taking the time out to respond.. I'm not a deep hardcore player but I do enjoy a good sim football game. I really like Madden 15 and I hope 16 will be just as fun..

                              My personal gripes were the sack issue being too easy at times and no real penalties. .

                              As far as Madden suggestion their are OS' ers like Armor and Josh 1977 and also Jarodd21 whom has a wealth of sim knowledge and would be a great asset for ideas moving forward..

                              I hope they don't mind me mentioning them and at some point they could chime in and give some Ideas to you guys so we can make this game even better!!!!

                              Again Thanks for responding!!!!!
                              Last edited by tyberious4now; 05-16-2015, 09:47 AM.

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                              • JetLife6
                                Banned
                                • Jul 2014
                                • 62

                                #240
                                Re: Some Madden NFL 16 Features Revealed, Pre-Order & Deluxe Edition Details

                                Originally posted by RexDEAFootball
                                Let me clarify this for you guys. We have added new functionality to total control passing this year. We are building additional layers onto what was already there.

                                The new passing mechanics this year are the ability to throw low and high passes (relative to the receivers body) we also added touch passes which have a higher arc and a sharper drop. It is used for putting balls over the heads of underneath zone defenders and in front of deep zone defenders.
                                Thanks for answering our questions rex. We appreciate it.

                                Unfortunately My issue with the marketing of new madden features has just been reinvigorated by the total control passing details. This 'new' touch pass seems eerily similar to the 'medium pass' from madden 13. That was meant to be a pass that would be great for throwing over the linebackers but under the safety's. I had messaged clint about in last year... Because during m25 and m15 I was unable to perform the medium pass anymore... So it is surprising to see if reintroduced as a new feature.

                                Was it not brought over to next gen consoles? It's just the little things like this that have become baffling to me... And to a lot of the community.

                                Thanks again for your time

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