Donny Moore, the 'Madden Ratings Czar', Leaving EA

[forme95]

Re: Donny Moore, the 'Madden Ratings Czar', Leaving EA

Good, now lower the ratings so that it's harder to get a player to 99 ovr.

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[SECElit3]

Re: Donny Moore, the 'Madden Ratings Czar', Leaving EA

Excellent, now they need to hire Dan!


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[sir psycho]

Re: Donny Moore, the 'Madden Ratings Czar', Leaving EA

Hold on guys.

When I said 'competitive balance' I am referring to overall game balance. User vs. User and User vs. CPU. When we have tried these types of ratings changes in the past, it would negatively impact that balance to the degree that I was not comfortable moving forward with it for the good of the game.

Competitive balance (overall game balance and playability) is inseparable from generating authentic outcomes. The two go hand in hand.

When I referred to 'community sourced' ratings, that could mean anything. It started out with us reaching out to the most respected and well known ratings sites out there. Don't automatically assume this will turn into a PR driven 'cover vote' style thing, that is not our intent. We want to figure out the best way to involve and utilize the community moving forward in generating a ratings system that represents the best thing for the game.

Finally I want to mention that Donny Moore shared this vision of fewer elites and greater ratings spread. It is a shared goal we are actively working towards.

I really appreciate that you take the time to read and occasionally respond on here. I guess I did rush to judge too quickly, and probably overreacted at what I heard(although, I'm definitely not alone in that on here ). I've been let down by the game for so long that it's easy to get carried away by any perceived negatives. It's nice to read your explanations, they definitely helped ease my concerns. Anyway, thanks for responding!

Oh, and if you read this...hire Dan!

[charter04]

Re: Donny Moore, the 'Madden Ratings Czar', Leaving EA

I'm playing a game on my twitch channel using the FBG rosters right now. All default All pro settings. www.twitch.tv/charter04

[ggsimmonds]

Re: Donny Moore, the 'Madden Ratings Czar', Leaving EA

Hold on guys.

When I said 'competitive balance' I am referring to overall game balance. User vs. User and User vs. CPU. When we have tried these types of ratings changes in the past, it would negatively impact that balance to the degree that I was not comfortable moving forward with it for the good of the game.

Competitive balance (overall game balance and playability) is inseparable from generating authentic outcomes. The two go hand in hand.

When I referred to 'community sourced' ratings, that could mean anything. It started out with us reaching out to the most respected and well known ratings sites out there. Don't automatically assume this will turn into a PR driven 'cover vote' style thing, that is not our intent. We want to figure out the best way to involve and utilize the community moving forward in generating a ratings system that represents the best thing for the game.

Finally I want to mention that Donny Moore shared this vision of fewer elites and greater ratings spread. It is a shared goal we are actively working towards.

Thanks for paying attention to us and taking the time to respond. You are ok in my book. I like the direction you guys are seeming to take with the gameplay.

That said, I do have an issue with the above bolded portion. Is it really something that is a goal you are working towards? This is not authentic blocking AI or something of that nature. Altering the ratings range should be easily done in a single cycle.

Now for my speculation: Does the team want to change the ratings distribution but certain parties aren't keen on the idea? Not going to provide names or anything, but starts with an M and rhymes with sharketing maybe? I don't expect you to respond to that lol

[DCEBB2001]

Re: Donny Moore, the 'Madden Ratings Czar', Leaving EA

I'm playing a game on my twitch channel using the FBG rosters right now. All default All pro settings. www.twitch.tv/charter04

Charter - I'm watching you scroll through your player list right now and it is so cool to see my ratings in this game!

[Playmakers]

Re: Donny Moore, the 'Madden Ratings Czar', Leaving EA

Good, now lower the ratings so that it's harder to get a player to 99 ovr.

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Why does the overall rating matter?

I personally think way too many people get caught up in the overall.

IMO EA should adjust the gameplay to be more tendency ratings driven as opposed to overall ratings.

They should leave the overall rating out of the equation and just rank players by skill set.

For example Power back vs Speed back.....why even bother with a overall just categorize the RB and let his tendency/skill set dictate his production and how he performs on the field based on his usage/system he's in.

I understand you can't do away with numbers entirely but to me i've never felt much a difference between a guy rated 91 vs a guy rated 81 overall.

Instead of using a number system for example QBA deep 80 why not just lable his effectiveness as as AVERAGE on DEEP PASS and code the game to render better realistic results

As it stands right now you can give a guy 60 on DEEP Pass and he'll still be on target more often than not because of the engine/mechanics in Madden very rarely renders any off target throws unless you damn near dummy down the game play SLIDER which shouldn't be that way IMO.

[charter04]

Re: Donny Moore, the 'Madden Ratings Czar', Leaving EA

Charter - I'm watching you scroll through your player list right now and it is so cool to see my ratings in this game!

I'll play more at some point. It's nice that both QB's threw in the 60's as far a percentage on default All pro. Also the Cowboys felt like a better team no doubt. I had trouble stopping Murray and that offense. The Pats Seahawks was totally different though. I won on a late jump ball to Gronk.

[kehlis]

Re: Donny Moore, the 'Madden Ratings Czar', Leaving EA

Why does the overall rating matter?

I personally think way too many people get caught up in the overall.

I'm with you but gave up fighting this fight on this website years ago because it's just not understood.


Do this day, no one has ever been able to answer my question of "What attribute does overall affect on the field?"

[ggsimmonds]

Re: Donny Moore, the 'Madden Ratings Czar', Leaving EA

I'm with you but gave up fighting this fight on this website years ago because it's just not understood.


Do this day, no one has ever been able to answer my question of "What attribute does overall affect on the field?"

It is not quite an attribute but I'll answer: playing time.

[bucky60]

Re: Donny Moore, the 'Madden Ratings Czar', Leaving EA

Why does the overall rating matter?

I'm with you but gave up fighting this fight on this website years ago because it's just not understood.
Do this day, no one has ever been able to answer my question of "What attribute does overall affect on the field?"

Overall matters because the CPU uses it for setting up depth charts, signing free agents, and overall is used in all contracts, both user and CPU.

[kehlis]

Re: Donny Moore, the 'Madden Ratings Czar', Leaving EA

It is not quite an attribute but I'll answer: playing time.

Overall matters because the CPU uses it for setting up depth charts, signing free agents, and overall is used in all contracts, both user and CPU.

I'm talking more in the context of conversations with people regarding why their favorite players on their team are rated so low.


I also don't like that it affects the things it does but understand overall is never going away.

[ggsimmonds]

Re: Donny Moore, the 'Madden Ratings Czar', Leaving EA

I'm talking more in the context of conversations with people regarding why their favorite players on their team are rated so low.


I also don't like that it affects the things it does but understand overall is never going away.

Not sure if you caught my cheekiness, forgot my emoticon lol.

I was not referring to the AI roster management but instead the legion of gamers who only sort their depth chart by overall without looking at anything else (except maybe speed).

[SECElit3]

Donny Moore, the 'Madden Ratings Czar', Leaving EA

Guys,

Just want to let the community know that I have already been contacted by EA today about "an open dialog" regarding my website's use at EA. We have a meeting set up for 16:30 EST on Monday. Details to come after that.

Dan

Dan,

I am so excited for you and excited for the future of Madden with you playing a major role. When I first saw your ratings, I said "This is what I am looking for and this is what Madden needs" I never doubted the work put into your ratings. The work is special and significantly changes the experience. You've always stepped up to the doubters and backed your arguments with factual, and relevant data. We never got that from the Czar.

Making my FBG roster for PS4, while time consuming, was worth it, because with every rating change I made as I transitioned from player to player, I saw just how great the work is.

You never asked for a cent or donation.. Truly selfless effort to make a change.

My hope is that your work becomes the foundation for Madden. We need it and we thank you!


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[charter04]

Re: Donny Moore, the 'Madden Ratings Czar', Leaving EA

doing some more streaming with the FBG rosters. www.twitch.tv/charter04