Is The New Aggressive Catch Overpowered? (Possible Tweak Coming In Tuning Update?)

[Jr.]

Re: Madden 16: Is the new Aggressive Catch overpowered?

Also, I'm pretty sure if you can influence the catch type without switching on offense, it's the same on defense.

Unfortunately this isn't the case. Rex stated straight up in another thread that you have to switch to the DB to manually play the WR or the ball. They will do so on their own according to ratings, but the user can only influence if they're controlling the DB.

Which really sucks.

My guess is that we'll turn catching way down to combat the success rate of these aggressive catches.

[TheBleedingRed21]

Re: Madden 16: Is the new Aggressive Catch overpowered?

Unfortunately this isn't the case. Rex stated straight up in another thread that you have to switch to the DB to manually play the WR or the ball. They will do so on their own according to ratings, but the user can only influence if they're controlling the DB.

Which really sucks.

My guess is that we'll turn catching way down to combat the success rate of these aggressive catches.

Wow. That's not very bright. Surprised they decided on that..

Anyways, I'm sure we will figure something out and have some fun.

[Cowboy008]

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Will I have to play on All-Madden this year or would adjusting the catch slider be enough for playing on All-Pro?

[CanOfCornCobb]

Re: Madden 16: Is the new Aggressive Catch overpowered?

Unfortunately this isn't the case. Rex stated straight up in another thread that you have to switch to the DB to manually play the WR or the ball. They will do so on their own according to ratings, but the user can only influence if they're controlling the DB.

Which really sucks.

My guess is that we'll turn catching way down to combat the success rate of these aggressive catches.

If thats the case then im not sure i will be purchasing the game. Absolutely pathetic on EA's end. That really ticks me off!

[Fist Of Kings]

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A lot of people on youtube are saying how ridiculous 'aggressive catches' look. What I don't like is how gimmicky aggressive/possession' catches remind me of last year's 'new' aggressive/conservative tackles. I've seen a bunch of vids and as I feared, it looks like arcadey, unrealistic gameplay catered to casuals.

These superman one handed catches are rare IRL, not plays you see being made on every down. And it's not 'new' either, one of the older maddens had a similar type of mechanic. And I'm guessing you can turn it off like last year's tackle cone, but why does ea feel the need to put in a prompt telling us what type of catch to go for? I was hoping wrs fighting for the ball would be tied into the ratings and not look like it's just another gimmick to sell this year's version of the game.

I want football, not minigames and gimmicks.

[howboutdat]

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I want football, not minigames and gimmicks.

Welcome to EA, sadly, this type of thing really makes me feel like there is never going to be any hope for this game

[Jrocc23]

Madden 16: Is the new Aggressive Catch overpowered?

Yep. It's looking like it will be overpowered like we all thought based on a stream I am watching right now on twitch.

The guy caught every deep ball using the aggressive catch with Beckham on Cromartie so far. He's just in practice doing it. Most likely it'll have to be tuned in the future.

He's now catching it over Revis and the safety that's helping over the top. It's just not every time like it was against single coverage.

Also it seems like QBs still move very fast in the pocket and that was only watching Brady and Eli Manning.

Was able to grab one recording on my phone before he got off. Sorry for the audio:

https://vimeo.com/136463346

[redsox4evur]

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^^^ It's practice that is on either Rookie or Pro. So I am going to wait and see how the game is in my hands before saying it's OP or not. Also Cromartie really isn't that good anymore.

[Jrocc23]

Madden 16: Is the new Aggressive Catch overpowered?

^^^ It's practice that is on either Rookie or Pro. So I am going to wait and see how the game is in my hands before saying it's OP or not. Also Cromartie really isn't that good anymore.

No, it's not. It was on All-Madden. I watched the whole stream. Seems like you're trying to make excuses or being very optimistic. I wish I would not have trimmed the video like my gut told me because literally like a few seconds before that he was telling viewers it was on All-Madden because people were saying it was too easy and he was playing on rookie or pro.

It might not be that OP, but from what I seen, it was. He did practice for about 10 minutes just doing the same routes. I watched him go to practice, put it on All-Madden. Roast Cromartie one on one like 7-8 times in a row and then he switched sides and plays and constantly burned Revis (who was in that video) and the safety that helped. It was the same coverage and play every time because it's practice.

[ViciousFoLife]

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I think the aggressive catch thing is being overblown I've seen streams where the user tries it and the QB overthrows the route, ball is knocked out or the pass rush gets the QB. Yeah people play practice mode against a vanilla defense and have great results but let's see it happen when you got a defender rushing at the quarterback or throwing it on the run. There's too many variables at work in a play for it to be cut and dry, such as what if I tell my safety's to play over the top or if I spotlight the WR. I'm sure that will affect the results as well.

[Jrocc23]

Madden 16: Is the new Aggressive Catch overpowered?

Seems like y'all are hoping and praying it's not true lol. I mean practice is damn near like playing a regular game except it's the same offensive and defensive play being ran unless the user changes them.

I don't get your point. Also that was against the Jets who arguably will have one of the best defenses in the league with two nice CBs lol.

I am sure not overblowing it, I am going off what I seen. I am not saying it's definitely OP, but from the stream I saw it definitely was. He caught every ball over Cromartie one on one deep balls. And caught a lot over Revis and the safety. Yes, some came out and was knocked out, but he caught it more often than not and you could just tell by the animations it will be bad playing against good users.

Sometimes he would catch it crazy but drop it. But like I said, more times that not he completed the catch. None were picked off throwing into double coverage against Revis arguably the best CB and also a second guy helping over the top.

But we'll see. I wish it's not but just saying what I saw. You guys can defend it all you'd like. We'll see who's complaining later on.

[redsox4evur]

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No, it's not. It was on All-Madden. I watched the whole stream. Seems like you're trying to make excuses or being very optimistic. I wish I would not have trimmed the video like my gut told me because literally like a few seconds before that he was telling viewers it was on All-Madden because people were saying it was too easy and he was playing on rookie or pro.

It might not be that OP, but from what I seen, it was. He did practice for about 10 minutes just doing the same routes. I watched him go to practice, put it on All-Madden. Roast Cromartie one on one like 7-8 times in a row and then he switched sides and plays and constantly burned Revis (who was in that video) and the safety that helped. It was the same coverage and play every time because it's practice.

Ok still it's practice where you can't tune the game and is teaching users how and when to use the catch so I'm still not worried. And as the guy above me said there have been other streams in games where guys have overthrown the ball, the pass is broken up, etc. And the pass rush is nonexistent in that play.

[Jrocc23]

Madden 16: Is the new Aggressive Catch overpowered?

Ok still it's practice where you can't tune the game and is teaching users how and when to use the catch so I'm still not worried. And as the guy above me said there have been other streams in games where guys have overthrown the ball, the pass is broken up, etc. And the pass rush is nonexistent in that play.

I am not saying Redsox be worried. I can careless if you are. Good for you you're optimistic. Just posting in general it seems like it will be a problem. We'll all definitely see anyways in a few days.

What's your point? Because it's practice means All-Madden is easier? How long have you played madden? The gameplay is the exact same as a regular game except you're doing the same play which he was to showcase Beckham beating the defensive backs. You're acting like in practice they take it easier and don't rush the QB like a real life practice lol. It's just like playing 2K in practice mode, it's the same gameplay, but you're just practicing to learn stuff.

The pass rush and etc is irrelevant. I am talking about the WR and DB interactions. The WR is killing them. Doesn't matter if it's practice or a game. And also there was times the QB got rushed he would scramble and throw it. Quit assuming things. I am going off the stream I just seen.

Y'all got me wishing I recorded the whole thing or this guy has it saved in the archives lol. But man, I get it. Y'all hope it isn't true. Just going off what I seen the whole time he played.

[D81SKINS]

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Well I plan on doing an offline or online vs CPU franchise. So if it does become that easy I will plan on adjusting sliders.
Let's just pray that the WR catch slider and/or defensive pass defense sliders work correctly.
For ex.
Lower WR catch for hum
Increase Prt and Pcv for cpu

I plan on getting my Xbox one w/ Madden 16 on the 25th and start labbing the gameplay right away.
I want to get everything tuned properly before the real games start

[takki]

Re: Madden 16: Is the new Aggressive Catch overpowered?

This video is exactly what I'm worried about.

https://youtu.be/8WSY8NSiR0c?t=197

Anto gets a mind blowing spec catch in perfect double coverage in this video. Which is fine, I have no problem with a great catch in the clutch.

But then the very next play, he throws into double coverage again and gets another impossible catch. I dunno if Zfarls incorrectly used an interception catch in that situation but even so, that first catch should have never happened based on how well he was covered.